Cool page from a Creationist science book

[Bucky]

Let's just let the mystery that is electricity blow our minds for a second. Electricity comes all the way from the sun, and yet outer space isn't electrocuted. God is wonderful.

*BOOM*

(that was my mind)

[JaneyVee]

1. Republicans are trying to move IDIOCRACY from the fiction section to the documentary section.

[hobbit709]

32. What you mean "trying"?

[Warpy]

2. Utterly horrifying!!

One thing we've got a pretty good idea about is what electricity is and where it comes from. We even know how to generate it from anything that moves.

These kids are going to grow up incredibly ignorant. I don't think we as a country can afford this.

School curricula, even home school curricula, need to adhere to some basic standards and make sure kids don't get told lies just so their parents can keep pretending a collection of stone age myths is the literal truth and everybody else is wrong.

Feeding your kids crap like this in the modern world is child abuse. I can think of no other word for consistently lying to them about the nature of the world they live in and will inherit.

[House of Roberts]

3. I can help them to 'feel' electricity.

Just have them piss on their lawnmower's spark plug while the engine is running.

[HillWilliam]

21. I've got a mile of electric fence they can test out

and see how that works out for 'em

[SwissTony]

56. I've felt electricity quite a few times.

When I was a kid I put my hand in the back of a radio - one with valves etc. Sheesh, I got a shock.

Could have killed myself.

[FreakinDJ]

4. Calif UC system was being sued by families who placed their children

in schools that taught that tripe

And they wondered why the UC wouldn't accept the earth sciences credits

[targetpractice]

5. We are truly blessed that God made outlets.

Amen.

[lunasun]

6. also check out Creation Wiki

http://creationwiki.org/Main_Page
in case you need a good reference site......

[BainsBane]

7. Is this for real?

How does electricity interfere with their ideas on creationism? I know they pretend evolution never happened and deny global warming, but I didn't realize they were deliberately fucking up all their children's science education.

[JHB]

25. I think it's just part of not beleiving what scientists have found...

The Bible doesn't say anything about electricity except for the occasional lightning bolt. Without having a clear Bible-based explanation, "it's all just theories".

And if you taught kids to respect the science about electricity, they might start asking why they shouldn't respect what they say about biology. That just creates an inroad for the devil, you see...

[southernyankeebelle]

29. Ya'll forget. They are living in the bubble, they are living in the bubble. La la la la la

[HereSince1628]

36. IMO electricity doesn't directly interfere with creationism.

IMO, I think benefits accrue to a coalition of creationists and raw capitalists from a general war on science it works something like this:

God is out there somewhere and god's influence is what explains how things are. In his wisdom god created institutions and designated power structures to rule Earth.

It follows that if people follow the teachings of the institutions and the instructions of the designated leadership class, they will behave in a manner satisfactory to god. Historically that meant searching for and finding god occurred within religious frameworks, though god and religion had influence in all domains of human and natural activity. Through natural philosophy the search for the fingerprints of god on nature became the stuff of the search.

Over time natural philosophers transformed into empirical scientists. Scientists have spent and still spend a lot of time looking at how things in the natural world are. In this line or argument it follows that scientists should run into the influence of god. Scientists don't concur that the influence of god or evidence of the presence of god have been found.

But scientists don't know everything and haven't looked everywhere. It's possible that evidence of god is out there in those gaps, which is the concept of The God Of The Gaps (Gotg)

The current anti-science push in some fundamentalist education is really about creating doubts about science. This tends to expand the possibilities of the gaps. It's a modern crusade to expand the domain of Gotg

The comment could end there if this was about understanding electricity. But it isn't.The nasty thing is that a general war on science serves not only those who claim authority to represent the one almighty god, but the conflict also serves the needs of the Mammonists who have little interests in traditional behavioral teachings of religion. The Mammonists understand that the war on science also minimizes the influence science can have in social and environmental policy.

"Mammon Inc." doesn't want the social and environmental impacts (or any other concerns) recognized as valid. The Mammonists don't want their goals or methods impugned by science any more than the followers of Gotg want the closing of the gaps to squeeze Gotg out of existence.

Consequently, the attacks on science are promoted by "Mammon Inc", and the result is a coalition of anti-science interests in fundamentalist religion and Randian raw capitalism.

[Scootaloo]

52. Ignorance is a virtue, don't you know?

Hell, the entire premise of Christianity relies on the "original sin" of Adam and Eve defying God and seeking knowledge... and then eed to absolve that sin.

[Bucky]

53. This is meant as a God analogy. You can't see God, but then you can't see electricity...

Which is bullshit on several levels. First off, you can easily see and measure distinct and numerable levels of electricity. You can also see and measure the effects of electricity, based on predictive models of the phenomenon of electric power. What's more, you can feel it when you touch a live wire. Ouch, of course, but it's empirically detectable. And finally, yes, you can actually see electricity. If you've ever watched an old Boris Karloff mad scientist movie, you already have seen electricity.

[HereSince1628]

59. Just wondering...I've seen that image on du many times over the years

and didn't know where it came from...

You're sure this is taken from a passage intending nto make that analogy?

[Bucky]

63. Yes, absolutely sure. The article on 11points.com about the creationist book...

... is listed as one of their all time most popular articles. You can find it there and see several other examples of why home-schooled science deniers rely on idiotic books.

[Initech]

8. Never mind that our founding father Benjamin Franklin...

Was able to create an experiment that conducted electricity from lightning....

[mindwalker_i]

9. I've felt it

Just had to make sure that friggin light socket was still working...

And how do we know space isn't electrocuted? Since there's no air up there, we wouldn't hear it yelling, "Ow, Damn, ow, cut it out, fartknocker, shit, OW that hurts!"

[Half-Century Man]

10. Are you fucking kidding???

If whoever wrote this manages to get his/her head any deeper in his/her ass, they will collapse in on themselves and form the core of an intellectual black hole devouring the intelligence of people in the surrounding area. Oh wait, that has apparently happened.

[pinboy3niner]

11. I love the way they illustrated it with a photo of a woman getting her mind blown

[Coyotl]

12. ^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^ +1000000000000000

Not just any woman, a Christian woman.

[Initech]

65. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. And the tides come in, and they come out...

This is the mindset

[pinboy3niner]

18. You can't explain that!

[bike man]

14. The page is wrong about light bulbs shining. Light bulbs actually absorb dark. When the

bulb has absorbed as much as it will hold, there is a dark spot on the side.

If one is using the older, screw-in incandescent bulbs, it is better if the metal base is at the bottom, which allows more of the dark to accumulate there rather than on the side of the bulb.

This is all true.

[Gravitycollapse]

17. You forgot the sarcasm tag I assume.

[bike man]

54. Is/was one *really* necessary? Really? nt

[Gravitycollapse]

55. In this day and age? Yes.

[Buns_of_Fire]

24. Well, this is why you have to plug them into the wall outlet.

You see, as the dark collects at the base of the newer bulbs, the cord sucks out all the accumulated dark and it goes into the outlet (which is why they call it an "outlet", duh!) and through the lines to the electric company where it's burned to create clouds.

This is why non-rechargeable batteries go dead. They've absorbed all the dark they can, and you have to replace them with a nice, fresh, empty battery.

H-E-Double Hockey Sticks, I thought EVERYBODY knew this!

[Voice for Peace]

37. but but where do the darknesses come from?

[Buns_of_Fire]

43. The evil Mutons created them. They're everywhere in the universe.

Then, when God created the earth 6,000 or so years ago, He realized that if it were always dark, Adam and Eve wouldn't be able to see the dinosaurs sneaking up on them (dinosaurs were a lot smarter in those days). So He created the sun to circle the earth and vacuum up all the dark on the side of the earth where the sun was. Being on a budget, He couldn't create two suns, so A&E had to take their chances while the sun was over on the other side of the earth. Which also explains why you don't hear about Zaxtor and Rumfus, Adam and Eve's OTHER two sons, who got eaten by dinosaurs at night while harvesting figs.

I've got it all written down somewhere.

[Voice for Peace]

47. the sun is a giant vacuum? why aren't all the cheaters and deceivers, the thieves and liars, who

dwell in darkness and feed on darkness, being sucked up into the sun? This is not working well.

[dimbear]

15. We get the word electricity from the Greek word for Amber, which is that chick's name. n/t

[MindPilot]

33. Amber Electrizaty is how we get yellow traffic lites.

[Voice for Peace]

38. I wonder.. do you think it also causes the yellow lines on the road?

[MindPilot]

39. Those were invented by a dude named Linus Rhodes.

just as tarmacadam became tarmac, and swimming trunk was shortened to speedo, we now call them lines.

ETA: they are yellow because God said that is the most effective color to keep cars separated.

[Voice for Peace]

48. did God invent cars? on which day?

[Canuckistanian]

58. Saturnday

[Gravitycollapse]

16. This...can't be real, right? Seriously, is this real?

[Half-Century Man]

19. Mental Pedophilia

Isn't this basically a case of child abuse as severe as physical pedophilia? Won't pedophiling their intelligence have much the same long lasting effects as the normal definition pedophilia damages their emotional state?
If you do this to a child, I say you are unfit as a parent.

[LostOne4Ever]

20. I swear

I swear that just hearing creationist crap kills brain cells.

[uriel1972]

22. Electrons, people. Eeeelectrrrronnns

It's in the effing name for cripes sake. Electrons jumping from electron shell to electron shell.

Science has the effing answer to that one, a mystery no more.

And the tides, look up at the sky and you'll see, gasp the moon and thanks to the nature of gravity we get the tides. Tides come in, tides go out. We CAN explain that.

This is from high school science and I ain't no highfalutin university egghead (yet).

My lack of God, what are they doing to children?

[CBGLuthier]

26. I was taught it was the electron HOLES that moved

and that electricity flows from negative to positive.

[SeattleVet]

51. Were you in the Navy, by any chance?

That's the way they teach it. The Air Force taught electron flow.

[CBGLuthier]

66. No, but I was taught by former Navy men.

and the first job I had there were three of them. I looked at their training manuals once and the Navy does seem to have had a pretty decent electronics training program back then.

[lunatica]

23. This is the opening mission statement of Idiocracy

Next they'll be saying something about electrolytes and plants not growing in toilets.

[redgreenandblue]

27. The best known partial answer to the question is this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model

[cali]

28. oh dear. please tell me that is NOT FUCKING real

c'mon. please.

[Craig Leonard]

30. I thought brother Lou covered this back in the 60's

Electricity comes from other planets

-Lou Reed Temptation inside your Heart

[liberal N proud]

31. Creationist science would be an oxymoron

[undeterred]

34. If you want to know where electricity comes from, check your bill.

And if they aren't "bringing it forth", how come they get to charge for it?

[Erose999]

35. "No one has ever obaserved it or heard it or felt it" so go stick a fork in a wall outlet, kids.

[Skidmore]

41. You are sooooo wicked.

[MindPilot]

40. How do we know the earth "moves"?

Is that in the bible?

[RebelOne]

44. Well, it does move around the sun according to scientific theory. n/t

[MindPilot]

49. That's why is only a theory

scientists make up "theories" all the time. Were you there? Have you actually been to Heaven and seen the earth go around the sun?

[Skidmore]

42. Thanks for posting this because I don't think many people understand what

these Flatearthers are trying to teach. The Dark Ages would have seemed enlightened to some of these folks. What was it? Too much innovation to fast for this segment of society to absorb?

[datasuspect]

45. you can get better slaves from denying them literacy in the first place

this just makes them stupid people with hope.

[JPZenger]

46. I learned my science from the "Land of the Lost" TV series

Is it true that 5,000 years ago, people used to ride dinosaurs?

[dawg]

50. Yeah. How does any of that stuff work. No one knows!

[SwissTony]

57. I so want to buy this book...anyone got a reference?

I'll show it to my kids (adults) and they'll look at me as if ***I**'m crazy.

[pokerfan]

61. Bob Jones University Press

The above image is from a Bob Jones University textbook entitled Science 4 Students. You can also buy it off of Amazon.

Even scarier? Over 1 million pre-college students around the world use BJU textbooks.

http://www.pbh2.com/science-nature/electricty-courtesy-of-bob-jones-university/

[SwissTony]

64. Thanks.

As i expected, there's a whole raft of them.

Can i restrict myself to one?

But that is scary.

[El Fuego]

60. Hey kids, how about an experiment?

Go stand in an open field during a thunderstorm, and hold this metal golf club way high over your head! Maybe God will bestow upon you the mystery of Electricity!

And for extra credit, borrow mom's toaster and try making breakfast while you're in the bath tub! Can YOU figure out where the magical electricity comes from?

[SwissTony]

62. Steven Wright

I've never seen electricity, so I don't pay for it. I write right on the bill, "I'm sorry, I haven't seen it all month."