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dsc

(52,160 posts)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:27 PM Apr 2013

So if you had 2013 in the pool, you won,

but here it is, at long last, our first out gay male athlete in one of the big four sports. Specifically, Jason Collins is the one. I admit, before today, I hadn't a clue who he was. I don't watch the NBA, college basketball, or any basketball. But the fact is today, is a huge day for gay rights. Gays have made huge gains in many occupations. The CEO of Apple is openly gay. The director of the amazingly successful X men franchise is openly gay. We have openly gay teachers, lawyers, doctors, and who knows what else. An openly gay actor plays Spock in the Star Trek reboot. We have a lesbian US Senator. At long last we have an openly gay male athlete.

My dad, who died just last year, used to watch the Negro leagues as a kid. He was a teenager when Jackie Robinson joined the Major Leagues. In a few decades, parents will tell their kids what it was like watching pro sports without any openly gay athletes. The notion of Whites only baseball seemed to be from a distant planet when I was 13. May the notion of straight only athletics be viewed the same way in 2043. Jason Collins has earned his place in history today. Today there is a kid who is good at sports who knows if he can play, he can play, gay or not.

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So if you had 2013 in the pool, you won, (Original Post) dsc Apr 2013 OP
it is indeed good, dsc Skittles Apr 2013 #1
Why he wears #98. DURHAM D Apr 2013 #2
very cool dsc Apr 2013 #4
Thank you for that poignant info, DURHAM Cha Apr 2013 #9
I had 1986. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #3
Is the right rendering their garments and getting the vapors? krispos42 Apr 2013 #5
You got me curious so I looked in on the FReakshow. Jim Lane Apr 2013 #11
So we really need Tim Tebow to come out? krispos42 Apr 2013 #12
A great day in sports history. k&r Gemini Cat Apr 2013 #6
Assuming he gets hired again by another team, this will be true. alarimer Apr 2013 #7
Excellent point, dsc Cha Apr 2013 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Apr 2013 #10

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
2. Why he wears #98.
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:33 PM
Apr 2013
Collins' act wows victim's parents


He said he did so as a nod to the Trevor Project, an LGBTQ suicide prevention foundation founded in August 1998, and also in memory of Matthew Shepard, a 21-year-old University of Wyoming student who was killed in October 1998 in one of the most infamous antigay hate crimes in history.





http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/jason-collins-matthew-shepard-parents-touched-by-jason-collins-decision-to-wearnumber-98-042913?

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
5. Is the right rendering their garments and getting the vapors?
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:01 PM
Apr 2013

Reaching for the fainting couch?

It wouldn't surprise me. More hyperventilating for drama's sake.

Where were the thousands of soldiers that were going to abruptly resign if DATA was repealed?

Nowhere.

The Boy Scouts just progressed in their treatment of gay scouts. Where's the fist of God?

Nowhere.

How about that soaring divorce rate?

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
11. You got me curious so I looked in on the FReakshow.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 02:32 AM
Apr 2013

I didn't wade through every post (five threads with a total of 376 replies, if I was manipulating the clunky Free Republic search function correctly). From the sample that I read before terminal repetition set in, three main themes emerged:

1) Why should I care about this?
2) He's a borderline player who's making this announcement now in the hope that it will help him get a contract with some team next year.
3) It's a sign of the moral ruin of America -- not so much that there's a gay player, but that he gets featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated, praised from the White House, etc.

There were also a few scattered references to the cutting of a fine, upstanding Christian, Tim Tebow.

Expression of all of these points was, as you'd expect, heavily laced with expressions of bigotry.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
12. So we really need Tim Tebow to come out?
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 09:09 AM
Apr 2013



Well, I'll be off in the corner getting morally ruined. Thanks!

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
7. Assuming he gets hired again by another team, this will be true.
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:20 PM
Apr 2013

He may not, for whatever reason.

But the news is not good for allies, either, because it looks to me like Christ Kluwe may be cut by Minnesota for his outspokenness (they spent a draft pick on a kicker, for some reason). One of the coaches has complained about his outspokenness as a "distraction."

But what really gets me are the comments in the ESPN article. Such hate and ignorance on parade there. So, I'm glad this guy did what he felt he had to do, but he is not a star player in the prime of his career. It may be a while before that happens.

Cha

(297,180 posts)
8. Excellent point, dsc
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:23 PM
Apr 2013
Today there is a kid who is good at sports who knows if he can play, he can play, gay or not.


thank you!

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