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spanone

(135,791 posts)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 04:18 PM Apr 2013

Bill Kristol Calls President ‘Irresponsible’ For Not Wanting War With Syria

we truly live in the twilight zone


Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol told (Mike) Wallace that the president’s failure to intervene sends the message that “this is not a president who wants to start another war.”

“I think it’s totally irresponsible for an American president to have that,” noted warhawk Kristol added. “No one wants to start wars, but you’ve got to do what you’ve got to do.” He also dismissed polls that show the public is opposed to American intervention before reminiscing for a time when there were “liberal internationalists” who would be in favor of committing U.S. troops to break up the conflict overseas.


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-panel-takes-on-obamas-red-line-on-syria-bill-kristol-calls-pres-irresponsible-for-not-wanting-war/
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Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. Again a warhawk wanting to start wars without first making proper inspections and an exit plan.
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 04:29 PM
Apr 2013

President Obama is showing great responsibility in making sure before he runs out and makes another Bush Blunder. The GOP is always yelling about spending, we are still paying for an unfunded war that Bush got us into. Crystal needs to continue to write and say the dumb things the RW wants to hear and try to keep up his ratings for he sure does not know how to run this country.

malaise

(268,693 posts)
3. Yep - Bush and Cheney were responsible
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 04:30 PM
Apr 2013

for their illegal war.

These fucking neo-cons should be locked up.

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
5. I don't know why this moron is taken seriously.
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 04:42 PM
Apr 2013

Has he ever actually been right about anything?

Why does he keep having his idiotic opinions publicized? Why don't they just keep bringing that 'end of the world' guy on couple times a year to give his latest prediction on when the world is ending?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
6. Tell you what Bill
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 04:52 PM
Apr 2013



You are right, we should go to war anywhere you fantasize, but only on one condition...you...yes you, will join the infantry, as a private...will be issued combat kit...and will be in the first wave...in fact, you and every other chicken hawk...and the officer in command of this first wave will be Navy Captain John Sidney McCain, with his exec, one Colonel Lindsey Graham.

Then, and only then, should we consider combat. And no Bill, not your kids...though they should be in the regular combat arms too...nope, you.

It's really easy to ask others to die.

Now on a serious matter, we might have to something about Syria...by we I mean the International Community, and by we I mean somebody else putting those boots if that is needed. There are a few things that we, as international community, can be done very much short of a full fledged war...but that is not good for business I 'spose

eissa

(4,238 posts)
9. “What he’s trying to do now is insist on ironclad proof,”
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 05:41 PM
Apr 2013

Brit Hume suggested.

How is this a bad thing?!

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
11. I can't help but think that stupid talk like this bolsters the president.
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:32 PM
Apr 2013

Although I never cease to be amazed at the number of people who have been swayed to an alarming degree by the extreme rhetoric of the right wing, I have to believe that the more violently unbalanced their speech turns, even propaganda-sensitive people will finally reach the point of WTF.

Initech

(100,038 posts)
12. No Kristol you stupid fuck. Telling the greedy war mongering bastards...
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:32 PM
Apr 2013

That the last thing we need is another trillion dollar stalemate is the responsible thing to do. We don't need these greedy bastards looting our treasury for another endless, pointless war. : mad:

George Carlin was right: conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers.

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
13. I'm so tired of neocons
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 02:26 AM
Apr 2013

I wonder if the general public might possibly be getting tired of war-mongering too?

I think as a country, I don't know how much more we can take of cable news 24/7 wars

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
14. I'm a card-carrying liberal internationalist, who supported Kosovo, but I think he's wrong.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 03:15 AM
Apr 2013

I'm a card-carrying liberal internationalist. I think the USA was right to attack Serbia over Kosovo, and wrong not to send troops to Rwanda and probably Darfur; beforehand I supported the invasion of Afghanistan, and while with hindsight it's undeniably done more harm than good I still think that it is quite possible that if the USA had committed itself fully to nation-building and not been side-tracked by Iraq that it might well have done more good than harm.

But there doesn't seem much prospect of an invasion of Syria doing much good. Either you're going to leave Assad in power, or you're going to replace him with an unstable coalition of rebels, many of them hardline religious fanatics. And, on top of that, much of the population has already fled abroad, meaning there's very little chance of restoring a stable or prosperous state any time soon.

If your heart is really set on playing the world's policeman and using military force to improve people's lives, I suspect that you'll do most good per dollar or death intervening in the civil wars in sub-saharan Africa. But I suspect that the same money could save even more lives if spend on aid rather than intervention (although I'm not 100% certain of that - Africa civil wars to massive harm and are low-tech enough that Western military intervention might be relatively one-sided.

I suspect that a large part of the desire to invade Syria is that it is an Islamic state.

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