As Elizabeth Warren said..

[Douglas Carpenter]

thanks to: Americans Against The Republican Party - link: https://www.facebook.com/Republicansareidiots1?group_id=0

[Jackpine Radical]

1. To imagine that only the Republicans have responsibility for selling out

the 99% is hopelessly naive.

[Douglas Carpenter]

5. you're right it would be hopelessly naive to believe it was only Republicans who sold out to the 99%

When was the last time there was even a candidate for the Democratic nomination that was even regarded as a serious contender who might actually win the nomination who actually had serious policy proposals to reverse directions and actually expand the New Deal and the Great Society? It's been decades.

[sendero]

23. Good point..

... however to be fair, the 1%-owned media have been pushing the more or less Libertarian point of view for 30+ years and people have bought it. It is human nature to believe any bullshit that is repeated to you long and often enough.

[ReRe]

11. Well, you could imagine it if...

... you'd admit that they came in through the back door via the DLC. When?..around 1990? Does anyone know the founding date of the DLC? Were ALL democrats a signatory to the DLC when it took over the nominating process of the Democratic Party? Has anyone ever written up a little history on the DLC? If so, I would love to take a look at it. I do believe that if we lifted up the corner of the DLC, that we'd understand why the Democratic Party has been corrupted. They sure do stay out of sight, don't they? Out of sight, out of mind, and running the Democratic Party of today.

[L0oniX]

14. Clinton sold us out ...and now it's looking more like were getting sold out again.

[ReRe]

15. Of course, but who was behind Clinton? n/t

[Douglas Carpenter]

16. even well before the DLC - the trend was already established that Democrats would at best only hold

on or minimize reductions in the New Deal and the Great Society. I would say that not since 1972 has there been a Democratic nominee or a candidate for the Democratic nomination who actually came at all close to winning the Democratic nomination who was driven by the New Deal and Great Society vision of pushing forward and expanding social democracy. Even Mondale in in 84 and Dukakis in 88 who both had New Deal backgrounds - were NOT running on a platform to expand the New Deal and the Great Society - they were running on a platform to basically hold the line or minimize cutbacks. This contrast sharply with the LBJ in 64 or Humphrey in 68 or McGovern in 72 who in spite of their fundamental split over the Vietnam war - all three of them called for eradicating poverty and creating the just society.

[ReRe]

19. Yeah, Dems were afraid...

... of never winning another election, thought they needed to be more like Republicans to get elected. I'd rather stand on principal and lose than stand for something I'm not and get elected. Where is the character in that? It was the Reagan effect. He scared the pants off the Democrats and they sold out. George McGovern WAS the last great Democrat to run for office. I miss George so much. That's where this nation took it's tragic turn... when it turned it's nose up to a real Patriot.

OK, even Jimmy Carter... didn't he deregulate the airline industry? Democrats turned so damn Harry Reid-gullible, didn't they? Couldn't stand to be called "liberals." What wimps. Afraid to stand up and fight for what was right. Damn!

I still want to know the history of the DLC. History tells a story and I want to hear it. I want to know in what smokey back room this decision went down. I want names and dates. I want the truth.

[Mopar151]

41. You gotta factor in

Which political goon figured out how to turn honorable military service against a canidate. - Kennedy's service was cool with voters, but the generals hated him when he got to office. Then McGovern, Carter, Gore, Kerry - the bigger the hero, the better the record, the worse the smear.

[Douglas Carpenter]

50. EXACTLY!! No novelist could have created a figure more red, white and blue than George McGovern

A small town preacher's son who became the state high school debating champion and then grew up to be a bona fide World War II hero - with a record attested to by every single member of his crew - then when on to be a seminary student and a Methodist Minister for a short while before going back and getting his PHD in history and then returning to teach American history at his undergraduate alma mater - Dakota Wesleyan University - Then single handedly rebuilding the South Dakota Democratic Party and becoming the first Democrat to be elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in a generation then appointed to a cabinet level position by John F. Kennedy to establish the Food for Peace program and then becoming the first Democrat from South Dakota to be elected to the U.S. Senate for a generation. George McGovern's life story sounds so patriotic and so small town America - it's hard to believe there was ever anyone that good, wholesome, patriotic and decent. But the goons - including some in the Democratic Party establishment managed to turn him into the very symbol of the absolute opposite of everything he really was in real life.

[ReRe]

51. I almost DON'T THINK it WAS a political goon....

...who figured out how to turn a candidate with military service into an unelectable candidate. And here is why: Any former soldier knows the true cost of war and will think long and hard before sending our soldiers into war. They would be less likely to go along with the MIC and their war hawks in the House and the Senate. Now, think of who the war hawks are. They are the effing vulture capitalist chickenhawks. Just follow the money trail. The military likes them, because they all have a stake in the MIC. They all have Dollar $igns in their eyes. They are blinded by greed and avarice. Through them, the big MIC machine continues to turn.

[BlueToTheBone]

34. Very, very true. Bill let them in,

and called it the 3rd way. At the time, I wondered what the hell they needed a "leadership council" when we had leadership in the party.

[BrotherIvan]

2. If that doesn't get people to see it, I don't know what will

Truth!

[LuckyLib]

3. That's it in a nutshell. Bravo, Elizabeth.

[ErikJ]

4. She has a way of summarizing better than anyone else

I pray she is chosen instead of Hillary

[newfie11]

20. Agreed. Nt

[Carolina]

32. Thank you

Hillary and Bill were founding members of the DLC

Enough of them

[calimary]

6. Hey, I LIKE that Facebook page whose link you posted!

TONS of great stuff in there! And I LOVE LOVE LOVE Elizabeth Warren!

[Wednesdays]

7. You heard it here first from me

If a woman get the Dem nomination in 2016, it won't be Hillary, it'll be Elizabeth.
Mark my words.

Okay, I'll admit it: maybe I'm not the first to predict that.

[MannyGoldstein]

9. +1

This time, let's nominate a Democrat. An honest-to-goodness FDR Democrat.

[ReRe]

12. Absolutely!

^^^^^^^^^+1,000,000,000.

[cantbeserious]

22. Yes, Yes, Yes - We Do Not Need Hillary As The Standard Bearer For Democrats

eom

[whathehell]

28. +10 n/t

[reformist2]

31. Hillary's time has come - and gone.

[99Forever]

43. I don't know if you are first...

... but I damn sure hope you are right. I won't vote for another Clinton (or any other Turd Way DINO), regardless of gender.

Senator Warren is exactly the prescription the Democrats and this Nation needs to heal and recover.

[pa28]

47. Hillary is with the program and Warren is not. That'll make Hillary tough to beat.

I hope to god you are right though.

[MannyGoldstein]

8. Thanks! Can you please cross-post to the Elizabeth Warren group?

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If not, that's OK, I'll post something pointing to this. It would be great to keep all ofe her stuff in one place for posterity during the 2016 race.

[supercats]

10. We Need Elizabeth Warren....

To run for President in 2016!!! She can effectively fight for the middle class and the poor.

[malthaussen]

25. I dunno, she may be more valuable as a senator

... that way she can actually, you know, get things done. If Congress doesn't go through a fundamental shift in '14, any Democratic Party President is going to be hamstrung and limited to making valiant-sounding mouth-noises. In which case, Mrs Clinton would be as suitable as anyone else.

-- Mal

[blackspade]

13. This.

[Warren DeMontague]

17. I'm so glad she's out there saying this stuff.

I'd like to see her get an even bigger soapbox at some point in the future.

[mick063]

18. Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and Alan Grayson

The only politicians I completely trust now days.

Clue me in if there are more like them.

[smirkymonkey]

33. Absolutely! Elizabeth Warren is my Senator.

And I am proud of her. I think we made a good choice in electing her to office.

[Mopar151]

42. Warren /Dean 2016

Sanders Senate Majority leader (Yes, some DLC 'er's heads may explode. Acceptable collateral damage, IMHO)

Allen Grayson - House Speaker

I believe that our key to survival as a great nation is wresting control of our economy out of the control of the banks and insurance companies, and reworking accounting practices and taxation, so that labor abuse, environmental monstrosities, hostile takeovers, and the Bain business model all become quite unprofitable.
Except for it's effect on the paper wealth of the 1%, and the whinging of some seriously over-entitled fools in the 5%, show me how this would be bad for the country.

Compromise my ass. Compromise is letting the top 10 K Economic criminals walk to a little cottage by the sea, whatever laundered assets they can prove managed by a US Treasury appointed trustee.

[ReRe]

53. I liked about everything you said there....

... accept I'm not too sure about Dean. I guess he worked to get a Dem Congress and PO in in 2008. But somehow, that didn't work out so good. The administration kicked it's base in the gut before the next election and the minority has ruled ever since. I hope to God people wake up and realize what needs to be done in 2014.

[libdude]

44. Add these to the list

Add Sen. Sharrod Brown, Ohio, Rep. Kieth Ellison, Minn. there are several others whose names escape me.

[Brigid]

49. One more:

You forgot All Franken -- though he does tend to shun publicity.

[enjoyingyourpeasyet]

21. The more Dems like Waren we have the better off we will be

we need to support the Warrens, Sanders and Grayson's and give the heave ho to the corporate crowd they can go back to the GOP where they really belong and fix it instead of destroying the democratic Party from within.

[whathehell]

29. "I only give to Progressives" -- What I tell the DSCC & DCCC when they call. n/t

[rhett o rick]

36. I completely agree. nm

[4dsc]

24. Now this is leadership!!

Perhaps other democratic party member could learn from her.

[Sekhmets Daughter]

26. Brilliant and courageous!

She and Bernie Sanders are the heart and soul of the party.

Thanks for a great link.

[burnodo]

27. K&R

Oligarchy here we come!

[reformist2]

30. She's got the touch. She knows exactly how to frame the argument in easy to understand sound bites!

[midnight]

35. What kind of world allows the rich to skim off the rest of us?

[cantbeserious]

37. The One Created By And For The 1% And Maintained By Both Parties Via Legal Bribes Called Donations

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[Douglas Carpenter]

38. wow..I have not checked this for about 11 hours and - not it made it to the front page!!

[TNNurse]

39. She knows what to say and how to say it. That is brilliant in my opinion.

And she is brave, she knows this is her opportunity to share what she knows it is her job to attempt to affect change. Oh my, an elected official doing her job....how rare!

[NYC_SKP]

40. 2016 (nt)

K/R

[LeftishBrit]

45. Sad indeed. My country too. Maggie 'n Ronnie were quite a pair.

[Jake2413]

46. Elizabeth Warren is great

[DeSwiss]

48. K&R

[G_j]

52. President Warren

has a great ring to it!

[Plucketeer]

54. KAy & Arghhhh!

[Jefferson23]

55. She needs to be it in 2016 and everyone knows it should be her if we are to begin

to undo all the harm that has taken place.


K&R