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markpkessinger

(8,381 posts)
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:05 PM Apr 2013

W's sick, demented comment about the 9-11 exhibit at his new library

In an interview, George W. Bush, speaking about the 9-11 exhibit at his new library, says, “It’s very emotional and very profound, One of the reasons it has to be is because memories are fading rapidly and the profound impact of that attack is becoming dim with time.” (I haven't provided a link, but if you Google the quote you'll find dozens upon dozens of articles in which the quote is reported.)

Am I the only one who finds that statement to be utterly appalling? I mean, for starters, the suggestion that the memories of 9-11 are "fading" is simply ridiculous -- no one who lived through it will ever forget the events of that day. But the suggestion that, after 11 and a half years, we should still be wallowing in the complex swirl of grief, fear and anger we experienced in the immediate aftermath of those events is frankly just twisted and sick. It is made all the more so when it comes from a man who so shamelessly manipulated those emotions in order to lead the country into a PRE-PLANNED war of aggression against a country that had never attacked the U.S. and had nothing whatsoever to do with the events of 9-11.

Bush and his cronies in the private defense contracting industry want to keep us, collectively, in a perpetual state of 'fight or flight,' all the better with which to manipulate us into their next war-for-fun-and-profit. Our 'fight or flight' response is a great evolutionary tool for survival should we happen to find ourselves confronted by a hungry lion on the African plain. But it serves no useful purpose whatsoever in determining how to approach threats over the long term, and it's a really shitty basis on which to base policy decisions.

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W's sick, demented comment about the 9-11 exhibit at his new library (Original Post) markpkessinger Apr 2013 OP
"becoming dim with time"... coming from 15 watt bulb. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #1
There's a 9-11 exhibit at his library???? arcane1 Apr 2013 #2
Here's a description and a picture from AP markpkessinger Apr 2013 #4
There are no words... Wednesdays Apr 2013 #26
3 words waddirum Apr 2013 #31
The man is a bonafide idiot ... GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #3
that memory will never dim in time for me Skittles Apr 2013 #5
I was 7 months pregnant and worked at the Pentagon at the Time Heather MC Apr 2013 #6
It's too bad Politicalboi Apr 2013 #9
Well I can understand the temptation, the pentagon Heather MC Apr 2013 #24
But, it did strike me the other day, that within a year or or two... alphafemale Apr 2013 #7
So true OldHippieChick Apr 2013 #14
"The circle of life" indeed . . . markpkessinger Apr 2013 #23
From "When Harry Met Sally" Wednesdays Apr 2013 #27
He had a high approval rating after 9/11 Politicalboi Apr 2013 #8
He kept referring to the attack as a gift cprise Apr 2013 #15
"I hit the trifecta!" Wednesdays Apr 2013 #28
So it was about raiding Social Security! cprise Apr 2013 #33
"never forget" has always been a reminder to *themselves* MisterP Apr 2013 #10
Someone needs to explain to him that the fading preoccupation with 9-11 pacalo Apr 2013 #11
+1 toby jo Apr 2013 #16
They want the memories to be dim. Cracklin Charlie Apr 2013 #12
They've already written the narrative. Wednesdays Apr 2013 #29
George W always was dim. No news here, just as disgusting as always. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #13
First, he is dim. Second, he is projecting, a typical repug trait. Third, why hasn't he been SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #17
because we're still not freaked out over terrorism like we were after 9/11 NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #18
George Bush is not sick! Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #20
well, that too. NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #21
Those were his glory days. Someone needs to zeeland Apr 2013 #19
Don't worry George... Oilwellian Apr 2013 #22
I was in Washington, DC the day of the attack and I can post a lot of vivid memories Samantha Apr 2013 #25
Memory against forgetting DreamGypsy Apr 2013 #30
Who can forget that day? I also can't forget the fact that "W" and his buddies sunwyn Apr 2013 #32

markpkessinger

(8,381 posts)
4. Here's a description and a picture from AP
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:17 PM
Apr 2013
In the 9/11 display in the George Bush Presidential Library, called the "Day of Fire," video images from the attacks flash around a twisted metal beam recovered from the wreckage of the World Trade Center.




Read full article here.

Skittles

(152,967 posts)
5. that memory will never dim in time for me
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:26 PM
Apr 2013

and I was in Texas when it happened

the memory of my country being systematically destroyed by a sociopath who was INSTALLED into the presidency will never dim either - I can still feel the same rage and disgust whenever I see or hear about him

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
6. I was 7 months pregnant and worked at the Pentagon at the Time
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:28 PM
Apr 2013

My husband didn't know if his wife and child were dead or alive for a couple of hours. I assure you the Memory of the day will never fade.

I was pulling into North Parking when the plane hit, on the side of the Pentagon I worked on. Had I not been Preggers, I would have been in the building and hour earlier. But I had to eat breakfast before I left the house, because walking to the building from the parking lot, on an empty stomach would make me nauseous.

So I watched the news while I at cereal and I found out about the first two planes in New York. That small change in my Routine saved my life.

I never ate breakfast before I was pregnant.

And i can recall every second of that day as clear as a bell no fading Bush None

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
9. It's too bad
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:40 PM
Apr 2013

The Pentagon didn't want to save any lives. They never should have been hit at ALL. All that money for defense, and they couldn't even defend themselves. But I'm happy you are safe.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
24. Well I can understand the temptation, the pentagon
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 12:15 AM
Apr 2013

is shaped like a giant bulls eye.

Actually thanks to the money they spent renovating the building, and re-enforcing the structure it stood for 30 mins before that section collapsed.

I had heard some Generals wanted to spend the money on really expensive unnecessary things like Mahogany Walls, and Granite desk. Oh brother

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
7. But, it did strike me the other day, that within a year or or two...
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:50 PM
Apr 2013

Graduating HS seniors will within a couple of years have absolutely NO personal memories of that day.

Even seniors graduating this year were only about 6 yrs old that day.

To a growing number of adults, the NY Skyline will have always looked like that.

In that way...it will fade in time. Of course it will.

Remember the Alamo!

Remember the Maine!

Remember Pearl Harbor!

In time, all who could remember are memories. And then not even memories. Just stories.

But none of us alive when that happened will ever forget. I know I am still shaken when I see a movie that features a shot of the NY skyline I remember.

But, this maudlin focus on 9/11 and that we are expected to be in griefcasm and murderous rage...forever and ever.

Disgusting.

How long after Pearl Harbor was that monument built? Because that is just simple and profound.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
14. So true
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 04:40 PM
Apr 2013

Was watching a game show not too long ago where one of the contestants named "Robert" Kennedy as a past president. She obviously was not alive in the 60's and JFK means little to her. Eventually 911 will go back to simply being the number you call in an emergency. The circle of life

Wednesdays

(17,249 posts)
27. From "When Harry Met Sally"
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 12:52 AM
Apr 2013

(Jess and Harry are discussing a very young woman Harry has been dating.)

Jess: Emily is terrific.
Harry: Yeah. Of course, when I asked her where she was when Kennedy was shot, she said, "Ted Kennedy was shot?"

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
8. He had a high approval rating after 9/11
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:36 PM
Apr 2013

He wants that back. Why do the people hate him so much. He was the ONE who had to deal with 9/11. It happened to HIM. So feel some sympathy for him.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
15. He kept referring to the attack as a gift
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 04:45 PM
Apr 2013

...over and over when he spoke to various groups of people around the country.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
10. "never forget" has always been a reminder to *themselves*
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:48 PM
Apr 2013

I mean, Giuliani claimed there were no terror attacks under *, and most Republicans would *kill* for the Messiah Reagan--who supported Gorbachev, Pol Pot, Saddam, Iran, and the proto-Taliban

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
11. Someone needs to explain to him that the fading preoccupation with 9-11
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:58 PM
Apr 2013

is part of the country's healing process.

Wednesdays

(17,249 posts)
29. They've already written the narrative.
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 12:56 AM
Apr 2013

They want everyone's memories to be dim so that the narrative will never be questioned.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,129 posts)
17. First, he is dim. Second, he is projecting, a typical repug trait. Third, why hasn't he been
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:01 PM
Apr 2013

prosecuted for the war criminal he is?


 

NoMoreWarNow

(1,259 posts)
18. because we're still not freaked out over terrorism like we were after 9/11
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:05 PM
Apr 2013

like the PTB want us to be.

He's a sick sick man.

zeeland

(247 posts)
19. Those were his glory days. Someone needs to
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:09 PM
Apr 2013

remind that stupid little prick we are still at war over 911.
I suppose in his isolated world the war is a dim memory as
well.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
25. I was in Washington, DC the day of the attack and I can post a lot of vivid memories
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 12:36 AM
Apr 2013

But let me tell you my first independent thought at work when I saw on a TV screen Bush* sitting in Florida reading to the school children: he knew this was going to happen and he got the heck out of town without as much as a "heads up" to the rest of us. I was so angry at the theater that had been staged, I repeated that verbatim that evening to a person employed by the State Department. His response was absolute silence.

Sam

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
30. Memory against forgetting
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 01:14 AM
Apr 2013

Milan Kundera wrote in his novel The Book of Laughter and Forgetting

The struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting


Singer-songwriter Casey Neill captured the essence of this quote in a song entitled Memory Against Forgetting. The first verse/chorus is

The history of the world is writ, laid down in reams and tomes
Rows and rows for dusty books for the scholars to comb.
Organized, digitized each one in its place,
The events according to the conqueror and the rest has been erased.

We are memories, against forgetting
Still we hold the line
The true and honest history
In the ocean of time.



The memories that have been recorded by people in replies to this post are vital evidence of struggle against forgetting. Of truth against the rewritten word.

sunwyn

(494 posts)
32. Who can forget that day? I also can't forget the fact that "W" and his buddies
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 06:43 AM
Apr 2013

have been rolling around in all that cash they made off the ensuing wars that happened in the wake of 911.

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