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If you haven't heard it yet, Genocide Watch tweets about my show on Genocide (Original Post) stevenleser Apr 2013 OP
Kick nt stevenleser Apr 2013 #1
Kick! eissa Apr 2013 #2
I meant to tell you that I hadn't heard the Hitler quote about the DevonRex Apr 2013 #3
Thank you very much!!!!! stevenleser Apr 2013 #4
I didn't know about the gas either LeftInTX Apr 2013 #6
As a descendant of a holocaust survivor, discovering the use of gas in Armenia was shocking and stevenleser Apr 2013 #8
Thanks LeftInTX Apr 2013 #9
Thank you, Steven! LeftInTX Apr 2013 #5
You're welcome, and so you know, this is the beginning for me. See this link here on DU stevenleser Apr 2013 #10
Thank you for mentioning that survivors have a hard time talking LeftInTX Apr 2013 #7
The Armenian genocide needs a "Shoah Archive Project" what Spielberg put together to stevenleser Apr 2013 #13
The woman you had on your program LeftInTX Apr 2013 #15
Karine. I went through several survivor organizations to get her. She was terrific. stevenleser Apr 2013 #16
Genocide Watch sounds like the world's worst reality TV show. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #11
I suppose in a sense it is. They and we all wish it didn't need to exist. stevenleser Apr 2013 #12
keep up the great work steve!!! spanone Apr 2013 #14
Thank you!!!! stevenleser Apr 2013 #17

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
3. I meant to tell you that I hadn't heard the Hitler quote about the
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 11:42 PM
Apr 2013

Armenian genocide before. It was chilling. And I didn't know that gas had been used in it, either. I also didn't know how you pronounce your last name so I learned many things.

Excellent broadcast!

LeftInTX

(25,106 posts)
6. I didn't know about the gas either
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 12:34 AM
Apr 2013

I've known about the Hitler quote mainly because I'm Armenian.

However, I did not know about the gas.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
8. As a descendant of a holocaust survivor, discovering the use of gas in Armenia was shocking and
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 12:55 AM
Apr 2013

very upsetting. It's another indication that Hitler and the Nazis looked to the Armenian Genocide as a blueprint for their crimes and thus shows how there was an opportunity to stop the holocaust if the world had bothered to care about the victims of and punish the perpetrators of the Armenian genocide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide#Use_of_poison_and_drug_overdoses

Use of poison and drug overdoses
The psychiatrist Robert Jay Lifton writes in a parenthesis when introducing the crimes of Nazi doctors, "Perhaps Turkish doctors, in their participation in the genocide against the Armenians, come closest, as I shall later suggest".[52]
Morphine overdose: During the Trabzon trial series of the Martial court, from the sittings between March 26 and May 17, 1919, the Trabzons Health Services Inspector Dr. Ziya Fuad wrote in a report that Dr. Saib caused the death of children with the injection of morphine. The information was allegedly provided by two physicians (Drs. Ragib and Vehib), both Dr. Saib's colleagues at Trabzons Red Crescent hospital, where those atrocities were said to have been committed.[53][54]
Toxic gas: Dr. Ziya Fuad and Dr. Adnan, public health services director of Trabzon, submitted affidavits reporting cases in which two school buildings were used to organize children and send them to the mezzanine to kill them with toxic gas equipment.
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For backup, wikipedia's footnotes link to this article http://hgs.oxfordjournals.org/content/11/1/28.abstract

LeftInTX

(25,106 posts)
5. Thank you, Steven!
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 12:16 AM
Apr 2013

I listened to the show and it's very compelling

Thank you for interviewing survivors of 4 genocides and the recommendations for Never Again.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
10. You're welcome, and so you know, this is the beginning for me. See this link here on DU
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 09:06 AM
Apr 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022762802

I am going to be joining or creating multiple efforts to keep the awareness raising going on and put direct pressure on various groups to recognize genocides and have the perpetrators brought to justice.

LeftInTX

(25,106 posts)
7. Thank you for mentioning that survivors have a hard time talking
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 12:50 AM
Apr 2013

about their experiences.

I tried very hard to get my grandmother to talk about her experience, but she would always change the subject.

My grandmother was one of the most open talkative people. She loved chatting with me about everything. She loved finding out about my love life. She loved giving love advice to all the single young ladies in her neighborhood. She loved telling me about the first time she wore make up. She talked about how her oldest babies had died from natural causes here in America. She talked about her many pregnancies that ended in miscarriage. She would talk about the death of my grandfather and my great grandfather who died here in America. However, when it came to her personal experiences with genocide, she was mum. We don't know the exact circumstances surrounding her sisters' and grandparents' deaths. We also don't know the circumstance surrounding my grandfather's family deaths.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
13. The Armenian genocide needs a "Shoah Archive Project" what Spielberg put together to
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 11:22 AM
Apr 2013

Catalogue Holocaust survivor experiences. My father was interviewed in that project.

http://libguides.usc.edu/vha

LeftInTX

(25,106 posts)
15. The woman you had on your program
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 12:25 PM
Apr 2013

I couldn't quite catch her name, was it Karina? She seemed to know more than most Armenians of our generation. Most of us don't have those details.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
16. Karine. I went through several survivor organizations to get her. She was terrific.
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 12:52 PM
Apr 2013

I have some pretty good contacts in Armenian survivor circles.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
12. I suppose in a sense it is. They and we all wish it didn't need to exist.
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 09:47 AM
Apr 2013
http://www.genocidewatch.org/

Mission
Genocide Watch exists to predict, prevent, stop, and punish genocide and other forms of mass murder. We seek to raise awareness and influence public policy concerning potential and actual genocide. Our purpose is to build an international movement to prevent and stop genocide.

Vision
We address genocide as it is defined in the Genocide Convention: "the intentional destruction, in whole or in part, of a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such." We also address political mass murder, ethnic cleansing, and other genocide-like crimes.

Genocide Watch is the Coordinating organization of The International Alliance to End Genocide (IAEG), an international coalition of organizations. The IAEG aims to educate the general public and policy makers about the causes, processes, and warning signs of genocide; to create the institutions and political will to prevent and stop genocide; and to bring perpetrators of genocide to justice.


Objectives
Education
We work to raise consciousness of genocide as a global problem and to raise awareness of specific high-risk situations.

Prediction
Genocide Watch uses predictive models such as Dr. Gregory Stanton's "The Eight Stages of Genocide" to analyze high risk situations for the purpose of education, policy analysis and advocacy. We monitor high risk areas, declare Genocide Watches, Warnings, and Emergencies, and recommend options for governments, international organizations, and non-governmental organizations to prevent genocide. We support creation of a Genocide Early Warning Center in the Secretariat of the United Nations.

Prevention
Using the resources of the members of the International Alliance to End Genocide, and other international organizations with on-the-ground field staff, Genocide Watch uses our understanding of the genocidal process to prepare options papers for policy makers, recommending specific actions to prevent genocide in high-risk areas.

Intervention
Once genocidal massacres have begun, intervention may be necessary to halt genocide. Genocide Watch coordinates work by the IAEG to promote rapid response by the U.N., regional and authorized national forces, including effective mandates and funding, and the political will to intervene. We support creation of a standing U.N. Rapid Response Force under Articles 43 – 47 of the U.N. Charter.

Justice
In order to seek justice for victims and survivors, punish perpetrators, deter future genocides, and facilitate the transition from divided societies to peaceful coexistence, we support national justice systems, special national and international tribunals, The International Criminal Court, and truth and reconciliation commissions.
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