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By Matt Taibbi
Conspiracy theorists of the world, believers in the hidden hands of the Rothschilds and the Masons and the Illuminati, we skeptics owe you an apology. You were right. The players may be a little different, but your basic premise is correct: The world is a rigged game. We found this out in recent months, when a series of related corruption stories spilled out of the financial sector, suggesting the world's largest banks may be fixing the prices of, well, just about everything.
You may have heard of the Libor scandal, in which at least three and perhaps as many as 16 of the name-brand too-big-to-fail banks have been manipulating global interest rates, in the process messing around with the prices of upward of $500 trillion (that's trillion, with a "t" worth of financial instruments. When that sprawling con burst into public view last year, it was easily the biggest financial scandal in history MIT professor Andrew Lo even said it "dwarfs by orders of magnitude any financial scam in the history of markets."
That was bad enough, but now Libor may have a twin brother. Word has leaked out that the London-based firm ICAP, the world's largest broker of interest-rate swaps, is being investigated by American authorities for behavior that sounds eerily reminiscent of the Libor mess. Regulators are looking into whether or not a small group of brokers at ICAP may have worked with up to 15 of the world's largest banks to manipulate ISDAfix, a benchmark number used around the world to calculate the prices of interest-rate swaps.
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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-is-rigged-the-biggest-financial-scandal-yet-20130425
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xchrom
(108,903 posts)Back room conspiracy.
Enough people with similar, sympathetic university backgrounds - get together at weddings, funerals, political get togethers - and voila - you have agreement.
Doesn't take dark and nefarious - just takes common interests.
haele
(12,649 posts)Those little signals - like the laconically raised eyebrow when talking about "workers" or "customers", the negligent shrug when talking about the weighing the risks on who might be hurt on that big deal you made that got you a lot of compensation... that grin when talking about "just think about how much revenue we can deliver to the shareholders!"
It's easy to rig the system so long as most big decision making is kept within an ever-shrinking circle of wealth and power.
Haele
Marr
(20,317 posts)influential players agreeing to fix a number.
We need to start throwing these people in federal prison, and frankly, I think these crimes ought to warrant the death penalty. If anyone is going to get executed by the state, these global-scale criminals ought to be first in line.
toddaa
(2,518 posts)The system works perfectly.
BethanyQuartz
(193 posts)Send your kid off to college and he or she will be brainwashed and corrupted. They just forgot to mention they were talking about rich kids and Ivy League schools.
byeya
(2,842 posts)Yarbles...
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)busted out municipalities from Detroit to Greece, the number of homes and pensions already stolen everywhere.
And that STILL doesn't even consider the biggest scam of all... credit scores. These same jerks are picking ALL the winners and losers. There is no "market" at all. It's a fiction, entirely, by now. A thing of the past, ompletely gone.
Of course neither I nor lots of us needed this article or these investigations to know this, but it's nice that the "credible" sources and authorities are beginning to catch on. Now it would be nice if they all did their jobs. (Ludicrous thought.)
So much has been stolen from so many, and it needs to stop now. This really needs a top-to-bottom overhaul, to come up with a real, functioning, and fair (meaning one with some ethics built in) financial structure, and then a global summit to coordinate. I would suggest winding it back about 40 years, and only updating for technology -- then we might have a decent starting point.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)at this point anyway. The people just have to realize it.
Teamster Jeff
(1,598 posts)Lady Freedom Returns
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(14,120 posts)Initech
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reformist2
(9,841 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)of the rich as the "Troofers".
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)usGovOwesUs3Trillion
(2,022 posts)ozone_man
(4,825 posts)It's reality.
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
(2,022 posts)Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)usGovOwesUs3Trillion
(2,022 posts)Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)mick063
(2,424 posts)They stick out like a sore thumb for everyone to see.
It isn't enough that the Robber Barons must steal your life savings. They must also demonstrate their unmitigated power by openly doing so. It's a psychopathic ego thing. The Attorney General has made it perfectly clear that he cannot stop them.
Robber Barons transparency trumps President Obama's transparency.
Jasana
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Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Had enough yet?
Yet?
Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)then figured there had to be a thread on it here.
I am quite literally speechless. My first programming job at a bank involved stuff having to do with LIBOR, so I know all about how that is used. Didn't know about ISDAfix though.
LIBOR was already a massive scandal; just about everything with a variable interest rate uses LIBOR for pricing, and it's also used for hedging currency exposures.
This ISDAfix thing on top of that is just extraordinary. Nuts. And no one is going to jail.