Guardian: Jello Biafra: 'Obama owes Occupy big time'

[tuvor]

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You've been involved with the Occupy movement. (2) The initial media storm around it seems to have died down …

I think that anyone who declared that Occupy was a failure was very much mistaken. I knew it would have a ripple effect, like throwing a big piece of concrete into a lake and just watching the waves ripple. In a way, Obama owes Occupy big time for saving his ass in the 2012 election. Occupy brought the issue of inequality and Grand Theft Austerity, as I call it, right to the forefront.

You've beenoutspoken when it comes to Obama. Over here he is widely regarded as a force for good …

Well part of the reason you have that view is that Obama is a fantastic public speaker. He could be another Martin Luther King or Malcolm X or much, much more, but instead the echelons of the Democratic party iare dealmakers instead of leaders. Rather than trying to really initiate something important and push for it, it's more: "Oh, what kind of buck-passing can we do here to keep our backers and puppeteers happy?"

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/apr/25/jello-biafra-obama-occupy

[randome]

1. So now Occupy is trolling for accolades. Pity.

[DirkGently]

2. So you didn't understand the OP. Pity.

[truedelphi]

3. It is my understanding that Occupy exists

to articulate the concerns of those of us who are being shunt aside while Big Fiance and Big Banking makes heydey of a nation that used to be a democracy.

If there is any person mentioned in the OP that is trolling, it ain't Occupy.

[randome]

6. I conflated Jello Biafra with Occupy. My mistake.

Occupy's intentions -too numerous to truly list- may have been noble but they screwed up by protesting Wall Street instead of the Washington legislators who make the loopholes.

You can't shame corporations or financiers into behaving better.

And you can't even call it robbery when Congress holds the door open and says, 'Here. Take what you want.'

I'm all for raising public awareness but the notion that anyone 'owes' anyone else is ludicrous. You could easily say the reverse: that OWS 'owes' cities for taking over their public parks.

You could say that OWS 'owes' this woman: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014466163

And we could read again where OWS went wrong: http://www.wired.com/opinion/2012/12/a-eulogy-for-occupy/

[mick063]

23. You diminish a great cause.

The Occupy influence was much greater than you portray.

Are you in competition with them? I can't think of another reason why you would be critical. Perhaps because they didn't do it your way?

If your methods are so effective, why have you not assembled a sizeable movement and made an equivalent impact?

[99th_Monkey]

4. Occupy Trashers = ignorance and arrogance on open display. ~nt

[Bonobo]

13. Worse.

They are their own self-hating enemies and the enemies of anything that could produce a real sea change to the entrenched system that has become so wildly unjust.

They are Stockholm Syndrome suckers lapping at the feet of their abusers.

Sound like inflated rhetoric? Maybe. But maybe it is true and some just think its inflated because they've been sucking bones for so long.

[Number23]

5. Who is this man?

"What is Bill Clinton going to be remembered for, besides his dick?" What a classy guy.

"The key to how I feel about that is a song on our Shock-U-Py EP called Barackstar O'Bummer"

"He could be another Martin Luther King or Malcolm X or much, much more" Neither Malcolm X nor MLK were politicians. But both were exceptionally brilliant Angry Black Men. http://www.democraticunderground.com/11872863

This Jello man sounds like a complete idiot.

[tuvor]

7. "This Jello man sounds like a complete idiot."

Far from it; he's very much his own person. Do a little digging.

[DeSwiss]

16. Bill will be remembered for his dick and NAFTA. :-| n/t

[Fuddnik]

21. Don't forget financial deregulation, that sowed the seeds for the meltdown.

[DeSwiss]

24. Yeah, I know.

- I started to mention that, and a few other things. But I try to avoid vomiting whenever I can.....

[bobduca]

18. "This Jello man sounds like a complete idiot."

What do you have against Bill Cosby?

[Number23]

19. Ha!

[DreamGypsy]

8. Wow, I didn't know Jello had formed a new band...

...Guantanamo School of Medicine.

Definitely a continuation of the Dead Kennedys genre and message...

Good to have him back, musically.

A little off-topic, perhaps, but Jello never was one to mince words.

Thanks for the post, tuvor.

[tuvor]

9. My pleasure!...

He says he doesn't have a Facebook page, but that's how I discovered this article.

http://www.facebook.com/jbiafra?hc_location=stream

[BeyondGeography]

11. Occupy won the 2012 election?

Obama and his organization won the 2012 election. Occupy had absolutely nothing to do with it. Get back to me when you can explain exactly how Occupy was able to identify likely voters and drive turnout in 11 swing states.

[Newest Reality]

12. If you don't know much about

Jello Biafra, then you may have missed him in the day. I guess he's still pretty active, and it has been a while for me.


Here is his site and I think you may find it amusing and very interesting, but then maybe not and then that means you are something that I can't describe here, but you already know what that is:

http://jellobiafra.org/

[rocktivity]

14. By putting U.S. income inequality on the table

Occupy turned Mitt Romney into the ultimate "one-percenter." That why the (mainstream) media tried to stomp it out while it kept the teabaggers alive.


rocktivity

[ohiosmith]

15. So,...who is more relevant than the above mentioned?

Everyone!

[DeSwiss]

20. K&R

[MrSlayer]

22. Jello has the right of it, as usual.

He's always been right.