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kentuck

(111,082 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 03:28 PM Apr 2013

Too timid and too passive?

Too quiet and too accepting?

Too cautious and too fearful?

Too uncertain?

Too unwilling to defend decades-old principles?

Too willing to look for bi-partisanship under any circumstances?

Too cozy with big business and big money?

Unable to assure supporters they are on their side?

Untrustworthy?

Weak?

In your opinion, do any of these apply to the present Democratic Party?

Or are you happy with the direction we are going?


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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
2. Agree with every statement.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 03:32 PM
Apr 2013

My grandfather (a life-long Democrat and a member of the Electorial College) would not recognize today's Democratic Party any more than Abraham Lincoln would recognize the Pubbies.

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
3. To me, the present democratic party has lost its roots, as well as less focused on "we
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 03:35 PM
Apr 2013

the people." ... but I'm not surprised when more and more the only thing that seems to count in the US is powerful money and its influence/power. Basically, the democratic party is run IMO by powerful monied interests, and often those do not align with "we the people." And many democrats, or at least those elected, are letting the course run. I often think when it comes to big money D=R=I.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
4. I think they need to move more to the cent.......
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 03:35 PM
Apr 2013

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! Couldn't even type that with a straight face.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
6. All these people are ultimate winners in the biggest dog-eat dog contest, not a timid one among them
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 03:37 PM
Apr 2013

They do what do because they want to, not because they are timid or uncertain or cautious or fearful.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
8. In my opinion, moderate Republican applies to the present party more than anything.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 06:07 PM
Apr 2013

Our party leadership tends to use Heritage Foundation arguments as a starting point.
There are a few exceptions, but the party has mostly moved to the right of 80's Republicans. The legacy of Will Marshall and Bill Clinton's DLC has been to steal former Republican issues and run with them. Bank deregulation, Job outsourcing via race to the bottom "free trade" and the start of the ongoing dismantling of the safety nets - Bill famously took the destruction of welfare from out of their playbook and made it ours. I remember when the Republicans were bitching about him "stealing their issues".

The legacy continues with policies written by Pete Peterson and proposed by our party in a renewed assault on our earned benefit programs. Financial decisions and policies provided directly by Wall st. for Wall st. to the point that it's no longer even hidden, but rather a point of pride. We are stealing Republican issues to this day, by working towards the privatization of our public education system with a renewed vigor that would make Bush blush. We have even stolen their views on not just warrantless wiretapping, but the collection and storage of all of our communications sans warrants. We have made indefinite detention our own and perpetual warfare standard practice. We have even adopted the use of kill lists with no oversight by UNDISCLOSED INDIVIDUAL(S) or sometimes the President without need for proof or investigation.

A Republican by any other name still smells of shit, the only policies left that are of the Democratic variety are social issues that don't harm the corporate bottom line.

There is nothing timid or passive about becoming the enemy. We have done it so well in fact that hardly any Republicans join the Republican party anymore (they run as DLC/3rd way "Democrats" instead). The Republican party is now the libertarian/fascist party since all the Republicans are now in our caucus under the assumed identity of Democrats.

UrbScotty

(23,980 posts)
9. *Some* of these apply to *some* Democrats
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 06:29 PM
Apr 2013

...and all of these apply to a few Democrats.

But they don't all apply to all Democrats.

Take Montana, for example. Most of these apply to Max Baucus. Few, if any, apply to Brian Schweitzer. Both are Democrats (or at least Baucus claims to be), but they are not the same.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
11. It is not just the parties, it is the nation I am concerned about.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 06:51 PM
Apr 2013

Congress is my biggest concern right now. They seem to be falling into a habit of doing absolutely nothing and still getting a paycheck.

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