'You Deserve Rape' sign causes controversy on UA campus

[cynatnite]

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Saxton has never directly threatened anyone in particular, and his language has been general enough that he isn’t targeting a particular person, White said. However, a university attorney was contacted to discuss the situation.

“We find it to be vulgar and vile,” White said. “However, it is protected speech. He has yet to, at this point, violate the student code of conduct.”

Saxton, a junior studying classics and religious studies, said his sermon was meant to convey that “if you dress like a whore, act like a whore, you’re probably going to get raped.”

“I think that girls that dress and act like it,” Saxton said, “they should realize that they do have partial responsibility, because I believe that they’re pretty much asking for it.”

Saxton’s sermon came ahead of the “Take Back the Night” event held Tuesday night, which aims to unite people against sexual violence. He said his decision to create the sign and display it was tied to the event and to the fact that April is Sexual Assault Awareness Month.

http://www.wildcat.arizona.edu/article/2013/04/you-deserve-rape-sign-causes-controversy-on-ua-campus

[gaspee]

1. Another young republican?

In my opinion, men like him are very likely rapists. After all, she was asking for it, dressing that way.

[JustAnotherGen]

3. Hell

Even a Democratic man. We've seen it.

We WILL see it. Just sit and wait for them to come out of the woodwork on this one. *8th grade hair flip*

Now shove over and give me some of that popcorn. This one is going to be fun!

[Sheldon Cooper]

2. I hope the authorities will take a fresh look at any unsolved rapes reported

in any areas where this asshole has lived. He's giving us ample reason to suspect him of it.

[onehandle]

4. He looks pretty hot in those sunglasses.

So by his reasoning, if half a dozen burly guys held him down and performed 'unnatural acts' on him, he would have partial responsibility.

[joeybee12]

14. You're right, I want to throw him down and have my way...right now...

But I can't be held responsible, because, as you said, he's making himself look good.

[Voice for Peace]

21. good point

totally his fault, coming on like that, all masculine and rapists-rights..

[Katashi_itto]

103. From "Deliverance" "You gots a purty mouth..."

[rrneck]

5. And he deserves a rap in the mouth.

Oh, wait. He's exercising his right to express himself. Well fuck me, that's confusing. No, wait. I don't literally mean fuck me, I was just using a common euphemism to express surprise, not offering an open invitation to fuck me. Ah, piss on it, this is really confusing. The controversy, not the sign. Unless he doesn't care if you piss on the sign, then it's okay. But not in public, that would be gross. And illegal.

[randome]

9. Ahhhhh!

[grahamhgreen]

68. The logical conclusion to his argument! Well said!

[Drale]

79. By his logic, you are totally justified punching him in the mouth

He was asking for it, and you can not be responsible for your actions, when someone is clearing begging you to do something.

[rrneck]

82. Is he actually asking for a rap in the mouth

or does he deserve it because I think that's what he needs? What, exactly, is he asking for?

[Arkansas Granny]

6. And please tell me, young man, who gets to determine whether or not a woman is dressed like a whore?

Who gets to decide which women deserve to be raped? Are you volunteering as a judge of women's apparel or as a rapist?

Men are responsible for rape. Period. End of story.

[Skittles]

43. and, real men do not rape!

this guy a COWARD

[Lordquinton]

147. Rapists are responsible for rape.

Story had a sequel.

[KinMd]

7. Future Senate candidate...

Fox News hosts will defend him

[calimary]

10. Welcome to DU, KinMd! NAILED it!

Glad you're here. I'll bet in a few years we WILL be seeing more of this individual. In that context, too. Or else, they'll just cut to the chase and hire him directly - for some full-time anchor job.

[riderinthestorm]

19. I was thinking he's probably headed down the road to being the next Fred Phelps from Westboro

But I think your closer to the truth.

Welcome to DU

[Initech]

35. At the very least he'll be a 700 Club correspondent.

[donquijoterocket]

138. YES

They will and they'll have this twerp onto present his side while they make sympathetic sounds and invoke the first amendment.

[randome]

8. Ask him why HE doesn't rape those who 'deserve' it.

Maybe it's because he believes in not treating people like things (or at least that's what he would claim)? If so, then that should be his message.

[seabeyond]

11. arent SOME of our young men so lovely... ya. we are doing a good job here. no rape culture.

nope. all in us silly womens head, and hysterical over it.

[JustAnotherGen]

16. Love you!

See my post up thread! They are coming seabeyond. They are coming!

[seabeyond]

60. backatcha. ya. i showed the thread to son that is off to college, to see the reality

of who SOME of our young men are.

[Cal Carpenter]

12. What a disgusting little shitstain

He belittles all of humanity with that shit. As though men just can't control themselves when faced with a v-neck shirt on a girl with big breasts and red lipstick on (or whatever 'dressing like a whore' means to him).

What a sick asshole - whether or not he really believes it, or he is just a little opportunistic jackass looking for his 15 minutes of internet fame, it's just sick.

[eggplant]

81. You would have to say big breasts and red lipstick.

Now I have to go out and rape someone. Thanks.

[AAO]

148. But he's a "good Christian".

[sinkingfeeling]

13. Bet he was brought up in a conservative, fundamentalist church family.

[alp227]

145. Seems like so...

http://deansaxton.wordpress.com/about-brother-dean/

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

15. Why can't these nimrods

Understand the difference between consent and assault?

[Ganja Ninja]

17. "You deserve a punch in the face."

I think that high minded religious douchbags that show up with a sign blaming potential victims of rape, a violent crime, should themselves be a victim of a violent crime. After all they asked for it.

[freshwest]

30. I have a picture for that:

[smirkymonkey]

41. One of my favorite signs!

[gejohnston]

50. cool

[BlancheSplanchnik]

98. + one zillion!

Exactly.

[freshwest]

120. It's one of the first pictures out of India during the rape protests.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

140. yeah! NO MORE lying down

and taking it. Taking the rape, taking the shame, taking the restrictions, taking the bottom rung status, taking the cultural traditions.

Finally, women are getting angry enough to get active and say , "This rigged game is OVA"!!!!!!!!

[NastyRiffraff]

119. Love it

Exactly right.

[Blue_Tires]

18. and then these mental midgets are gonna have the gall

to blame their perpetual datelessness on the attitudes of "decadent feminists"

[Comrade Grumpy]

20. Wow. This guy is a real neanderthal. (My apologies to cavemen.)

[mercuryblues]

22. here ya go

https://www.facebook.com/dailywildcat

I am sure they would love to hear from ya.

[WillyT]

23. K & R !!!

[historylovr]

24. And he deserves to have the shit kicked out of him.

After all, he's asking for it.

[Glaisne]

49. Agreed!

It would be nice to see that happen, it's what he and their ilk deserve!

[Whisp]

25. what about the children and elderly that are raped.

were the diapers or depends too provocative?

What a giant, dumb turd. Rape is about violence, about hate towards the female. stupid shit.

[freshwest]

31. +1.000

[Donald Ian Rankin]

39. What about the "provocatively"-dressed women who are, come to that?

Dressing in an attractive fashion is not a mitigating factor in a rape case.

[Blue Owl]

26. The pro-rape crowd have always been a bunch of sick fucks

And always will be.

[geek tragedy]

27. What's sad is how many people actually agree with this guy.

We had to listen to someone talking about the Steubenville victim in such a manner a few weeks back.

A woman in her 20's.

[pilar007]

28. woman behind the foolio

The woman with the sign behind the idiot....doesn't it say 'You deserve Grape"?? kinda funny

[LadyHawkAZ]

29. It's not a woman

All the people surrounding Foolio are men. It's good to see.

[NCTraveler]

32. This guy needs help.

All women who come in contact with him in the future need help. He really is justifying rape. If he can justify it in this manner, then he feels it is understood and acceptable under certain circumstances. You are looking at a rapist. Free and able to practice his trade. Sick fuck.

[Skittles]

42. he is admitting he cannot control himself if women don't dress correctly

and he is advising all men to feel the same way

[freshwest]

33. A generational thing? College boys I grew up with would have laid those guys out.

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After all, they all had girlfriends, mothers, sisters, etc.

Rape was known to be a form of warfare, even back then in the sixties and seventies.

Is this from some of the separate sex school genre, or the internet generation?

[freshwest]

34. Kept following the links and found this:

Published April 23, 2013 By RYAN REVOCK

Ryan revock/arizona Daily Wildcat

The offender here:

Brother Dean Saxton (left), a junior studying classics and religious studies, preaches about rape at Heritage Hill on Tuesday afternoon.

The counterpoints here:

Josh Solomon (center), a computer science sophomore, as well as Gregor Orbino (right), a political science junior, serve as counterpoints.

Emboldening, description, italics and paragraphing for attention are my addition. I can't read the counterpoints' signs though, and am curious why the offensive one is being allowed to do this - it wouldn't have happened in the liberal era of my public university years.

But this is the same state where a game at a school was called off when a boy's team from a private school refused to play against girls. They forfeited the game. And we still don't have the ERA...

Shall we say homegrown Taliban?

[PATXgirl]

37. The counterpoint signs say:

The counterpoint signs say:

Far right: No body deserves rape.

Center: You deserve Grape.

[freshwest]

38. Thanks. Good for them. But who's the offender preaching to?

Kudos to the young men on the right of the picture!

[Gravitycollapse]

129. Great. Exactly what we need. "Chivalrous" men defending women with punches.

I'll give you a hint. The generation that asshole was born within has absolutely nothing to do with the stupidity and hatred that he preaches. He's merely a fool. And fools have existed since man gained the ability to communicate.

[nomorenomore08]

131. Should the women defend themselves with punches instead?

I wouldn't be opposed to that, personally. Nonviolence may be a good general principle but as an ironclad law it's a bit much. Or a bit too little, rather.

[MoonchildCA]

36. It's protected speech... Really?

I'd think they could at least get him on inciting violence.

[Rex]

40. How is that not promoting violence?

Ummm...HELLO!

[alp227]

146. Personally I'm a 1st amendment absolutist but sometimes must ponder.

I wonder if Bum Dean (he calls himself "Brother Dean" on his blog...but after this stunt he'll be a BUM) went to DC and wrote "Obama's daughters deserve rape". If that happened, the Capitol Police would swoop in and put Dean in handcuffs and send him to jail. I think he's engaging in fighting words or incitement, which laws CAN prosecute, but the university chooses not to.

[whttevrr]

44. {:o(

[rufus dog]

45. To be a bit picky UA is usually Auburn University. UofA is the correct reference for

university of arizona. As an ASU grad, (Arizona State University) I just want to make sure that UofA takes full responsibility for this asshole.

[Quantess]

46. The guy in the long hair... I bet if you asked him

he'd say Ted Nugent RULZ!!!

Looks like trolling IRL, in general.

[dawg]

65. No. He's on our side. His sign says "You deserve grape!"

He's mocking the other dude.

[Quantess]

89. Aha... thanks. That's cool of him.

He's likely to get increased popularity with the female co-eds after that.

[BethanyQuartz]

47. Dear sir,

I am not responsible for your miniskirt and high heels fetish. I'm flattered, but keep it in your pants and go see a counselor at once.

Sincerely,

A woman who dresses how she pleases
and who will happily use one of her high heels
to stab would-be rapists in the eye

[redwitch]

51. Welcome to DU!

Counseling would be a good idea for that idiot.

[BethanyQuartz]

61. Thanks!

And I hope he and his cronies with their signs get some help. There is seriously something wrong with them.

[redwitch]

72. If you read the other signs you will see they are mocking him.

They do not agree with his idiocy.

[BethanyQuartz]

75. Whoops!

You're right, I just realized that.

[MattBaggins]

58. Would it be OK to ask you not to wear heels

because they are horrible for your feet? Not how you look but a genuine concern for your actual health?

[BethanyQuartz]

59. In truth I almost never wear them

My spine also does not appreciate modern day foot binding. But they can be a handy weapon.

[seabeyond]

64. ha ha. welcome to du.

[BethanyQuartz]

67. Thanks!

*Keeps high heels handy in case DU is full of young men who can't control themselves in the presence of my irresistible, sexily clad charms.*

Come to think of it, in the US, most people, especially males, are so far to the right politically (or think they are) that I could probably squelch all romantic interests just by talking politics.

It's the new anti-date-rape tactic in America!

[seabeyond]

107. That is a hoot. If it didn't come naturally to me, talking liberal talk

I would steal

[Marrah_G]

135. I can't wear them

After an hour or so, my feet are screaming in pain. Also, I always feel like I'm going to break my ankle. I forced myself to wear them when I was young. Now... comfort over style.

[blackspade]

48. What a fucking dipshit.

“I think that girls that dress and act like it,” Saxton said, “they should realize that they do have partial responsibility, because I believe that they’re pretty much asking for it.”

No, Asshole. No woman, no matter how she dresses or doesn't dress, deserves to be raped.
To say otherwise shows what a shitty person you are.

[Nonhlanhla]

52. I guess my 76 year old great-aunt was a slut then

So, according to this young idiot I'm supposed to believe that my great grand aunt asked to be raped. She was 76 years old when she was brutally raped by a gang of teenage boys, murdered, and thrown down a well. I was 16 when she was murdrered, and her story is one of the dark stories in my family, and it terrified me. Just like I was terrified when, in college, our economics professor somewhat gleefully informed the young women in the class that at least 1 in 3 of us can look forward to being raped in our lifetimes (this was in South Africa in the 1980s). Just as I was terrified that ONE time during my college years when I could not get a ride to my dorm after dark, and had to run, alone, through the streets of my college town. I guess that is kind of the point of rape, isn't it? To terrify women.

We all know that nuns, women in burkas, babies, young children, old women, fat women, thin women, women with warts on their faces, fashion models, prostitutes, college students, young women dressed in mini skirts, young women dressed in conservative clothing, middle aged women, mothers, straight women, gay women, bi women, and your neighbor's daughter, are all potential rape victims. Anybody who thinks that rape is about sexuality, is wrong. It is about power over women (and sometimes over children, and sometimes over more vulnerable men). It is about power, about showing who is boss. It's got nothing to do with a woman dressing provocatively.

And so is this young man's language. It's about saying who he thinks is boss, who gets to call the shots. It's about control.

[colorado_ufo]

87. Brilliant post.

And I am so sorry for your family's suffering and loss. May God rest your great aunt's soul in peace.

[freshwest]

90. I second that. It must have been painful to post, but excellently done.

[wellstone dem]

121. Thank you for a difficult post

Blessings to you and to your great aunt. Thank you for explaining something that should not need to be explained.

[smirkymonkey]

142. I am so sorry to hear that. How horrible and tragic.

Please accept my condolences.

[Nonhlanhla]

143. Thanks

Thanks all for the kind words. Her death happened about 27 years ago, and I was not super close to her, so the fact of her death has long been accepted, but the way she died was really frightening. It was also a shock at the time to learn that one of the perpetrators was a 13 year old boy - the humiliation to her as an old woman felt even worse with that fact, and what they did with her body made it even worse. In South Africa (which has some of the highest rates of sexual violence in the world) such stories are unfortunately all too common, and made worse by race politics, trauma from our political past, poverty, high rates of alcoholism, and so forth. But such stories are all too common all over the world, and it appears that rates of sexual violence are directly correlated with patriarchal values. (I did some research on this for my dissertation, which dealt with the relationship between certain Christian doctrines and violence against women.) The more a culture believes that women are inferior, or subject to male control, or are to be submissive, the higher the cultural tolerance for sexual violence, and indeed the rates of sexual violence (although statistics are difficult to interpret due to a variety of factors).

I was very shocked one day when a cousin of mine and her husband (whom I otherwise liked) remarked that a woman who had been raped (it was a news story at the time if I remember right) had been partly to blame because she had been sleeping around anyway. Pretty much what this idiot boy is saying. I felt sick.

[MattBaggins]

53. If someone were to punch him in the face

and beat him to a bloody pulp for holding that sign, would he deserve it?

[HockeyMom]

54. His date book should be overflowing

after that sign.

[harmonicon]

55. Some asshole with a shaven face and uncovered head said that?

Those things are an affront to God. That motherfucker deserves to be stoned to death.

[Tikki]

56. "You are a man who walked out your front door, so you deserve to be called a Rapist."

...makes about the same sense to me....


Tikki

[Kelvin Mace]

57. So, if you look like a jerk, and act like a jerk

you deserve to get you ass kicked?

Just askin'.

[nomorenomore08]

96. Not necessarily. But people who advocate violence shouldn't be surprised

when violence bites them back in the ass.

[SemperEadem]

62. what say he about 80 yr old grandmothers and little girls?

do they dress provocatively? Do they act provocatively? They also get raped, so do they also deserve it?

This asshole proves that he doesn't understand what rape is... it's a crime of control and power over the victim, not out of bounds lust that can't be denied.

His stupid face provokes me to want to smash it in it with a rock... and I would have to say "he deserves a beat down" for breathing.

He is the face of christianity at that university, is he? That is their position, is it? That's what they're teaching this numbnut?

[Agnosticsherbet]

63. Don't notice any women in that group...

What does that saay about them?

[dawg]

66. The dude is there on his own.

All the other men are mocking him. Look at their signs.

[siligut]

69. Shitheads like this think it is what women want

They live in a world where good women are oppressed, repressed and over-dressed.

[undeterred]

70. Well I hope his name and this picture stay posted on the internet forever.

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That should take care of him finding a partner and a job.

[MynameisBlarney]

71. If I saw this asshole in person

I'd be in jail for assault right now.

[Ptah]

73. EDITORIAL: To fight hate speech, journalists must report hate speech {Arizona Daily Wildcat}

In journalism, editors and reporters inevitably confront ethical dilemmas.
From national stories about bombing suspects to local stories about
incendiary student preachers, journalists must consider how stories
will affect their audiences.

But of course, they’re called dilemmas because they are multi-faceted
and deeply complicated.

On Wednesday, the Arizona Daily Wildcat published a story about a student
preacher in front of the Administration building, and the campus response to him.

The student, Dean Saxton — also known as Brother Dean Samuel,
a junior studying classics and religious studies — held a sign that read
“You deserve rape,” which drew heated criticism from onlookers.
Many filed written complaints or called the Dean of Students Office.

http://www.wildcat.arizona.edu/article/2013/04/editorial-to-fight-hate-speech-journalists-must-report-hate-speech

[mr clean]

74. Only women get raped?

This guy needs to know men get raped too, not as many but they do.

Also, most men don't wear mini skirts.

[CarrieLynne]

76. I hope the next time he wears shorts on a hot day......

.......gah...I cant wish for anyone to get raped even if its a moron like this guy lol

[Drale]

77. My first semester at my school

there was a protest like this by a frat that was notorious for its anti-women's right activities. A mob of people who didn't appropriate their attitudes formed and pelted them with water balloons, eggs and paintball. Was it right for them to infringe on those idiots freedom of speech, no but it was very funny. That frats charter was revoked the next semester because of on going problems including a rape that happened behind their building.

[lapfog_1]

78. Fortunately the Internet Tubes have a long memory...

And this guy will be googled by his prospective employers for years to come.

And then he will have to explain his sign over and over to each one.

And, hopefully, never get a job offer.

Karma.

[booley]

80. right because i have no choice where my penis goes

Just standing at the store.. see someone attractive and... Damn my genitalia is over there raping again!

And all I wanted was some Mountain Dew and Fruity pies!

Do I even need a sarcasm tag for that?

Really, the guy should not have even bothered explaining his sign. We already figured out what he meant. Explaining just made him seem worse.

The only I can see this guy not being a douche is if he's actually doing some "A Modest Proposal" POE like performance art.

But I don't think he is.

[liberalmuse]

84. So basically what he is saying...

...is that males are incapable of controlling themselves, and that the only thing preventing them from raping women is a couple inches of material. What an insult to men.

I wouldn't worry about this harming his future chances for employment. I'm sure the Republican Party is already begging him to run for office.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

85. if those LITTLE SHITS were holding signs that said "You Deserve Lynching"

and then held forth on afros and saggy pants, do you think FOR ONE RED HOT SECOND that the administration WOULDN'T shut them down and initiate disciplinary action against the little SCUMSUCKERS?????????????



What those goddammed little creeps are doing is EXACTLY equivalent to the other, but they get a total free pass???? Fucking double standard, this is DISGUSTING

[Donald Ian Rankin]

88. Why the plurals?

As far as I can tell, Saxton is a one-man band - I get the impression that his preaching is mostly about self-aggrandisement, and working with others might not suit him. That said, I haven't read up on him in detail, so I'm not at all confident in that.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

97. didn't you see the picture showing the groupof these little boys who are all butthurt about the idea

that rapists are responsible for rape protesting together?

ON EDIT: my mistake. I'm on mobile--didn't realize those guys were jamming the little turd's whine fest.

Nevertheless--my point is still valid. If it were a " You deserve to be lynched" sign, I guarantee that little prick would be in a world of hurt.

[opiate69]

99. Do you mean the picture in the original post?

If so, you might want to go look a little closer.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

102. I did and I edited the reply.

There's still my original point, which is, if his poster said "you deserve lynching"--at an anti racism event!--I'm pretty certain the POS would be removed from school and forget about free speech rights.

[opiate69]

105. No argument there...

This shitheel should be drummed right the hell out of school.. I would imagine Liberty U or Bob Jones would be happy to have him.

[Warren DeMontague]

100. Actually- and it's hard to tell from the photo- the other 2 guys are protesting the FIRST guy.

It's one shithead, apparently under the impression that he is making some sort of religious statement.


The other two people are holding signs that make fun of him, sort of the way that people stand next to the Fred Phelps people with signs mocking them.


The second sign says "you deserve grape" ( ) and the other one says "Nobody Deserves Rape"

[BlancheSplanchnik]

101. yep...I JUST edited my reply.

Couldn't tell they were good guys.

[Matariki]

86. If I went to that college, I'd photo him with people next to him

holding signs that say "Attention Slut" and "Deserves To Be Alone" and then plaster them EVERYWHERE. All over campus, all over town. He wants attention, give it to him.

[BaronChocula]

91. and if you act like a prick...

you deserve to be cut.

[smirkymonkey]

125. Yes, thank you. And welcome to DU!

[Caeser67]

92. Ladies and Gentlemen:

Your next RNC Chairman.

[Buns_of_Fire]

113. I'm picking him to be recruited into the Westboro Cult.

I said in another thread about this that I wondered what the hell kind of "religious studies" they teach at UofA.

Either way, I've no doubt he'll be whining to the heavens when some rather big dude -- who has a mother or a girlfriend or a fiancee -- stuffs his sign down his purdy mouf.

[smallcat88]

94. radical right here = islamist extremism?

I don't care if she's running naked through the campus, men who rape need to stop blaming their victims. This same kind of twisted logic is why women in islam have to cover themselves from head to toe. It is somehow their fault if a man sees to much of them and decides she's 'asking for it'. What do you want to bet this guy probably hates islam and claims to be against it? Got news for him; he more like islam than he cares to admit. At 50 I'm too old to dress scantily anymore but if this guy or any other guy decides I'm not sufficiently covered and attacks me, he damn well better have medical insurance because I'm not too old to kick his ass!

[nomorenomore08]

130. The space between fundie Christians and fundie Muslims is certainly not as large

as many would like to believe. While the former may not be as overtly violent, generally speaking - with plenty of exceptions of course - I don't think the primary reasons for that are doctrinal ones. Probably has more to do with higher living standards etc.

[Rozlee]

95. During the Reagan recession

the only job I could find that paid well enough to support my family was as a cocktail waitress at a strip club wearing barely there clothes and heels that could almost be stilts. But, I'll never forget how some of the customers would be so judgmental of the girls, but still be our regulars. Many of them expressed actual contempt for the strippers, angrily asking how they could debase themselves doing the work they did, but it didn't keep them from coming back over and over again and getting obsessed at times with a certain girl. It's a form of self-hatred and projection. They blame the object of their lust for the way they feel. No one dragged them into the club at gunpoint. That kind of hate is more often than not directed inward.

[rocktivity]

104. Women have "partial" responsibility?

Wonder if he agrees that men have the other "part"...


rocktivity

[tanyev]

106. Someday he'll get married and make some woman completely miserable.

[Alva Goldbook]

108. I'm not exactly a fan of being a white knight....

...but this guy needs a good ass whuppin'.

[Janecita]

109. How very Christian of him!!!

He probably wears a "purity" ring and is saving himself for marriage. Total douche!!

[ISW]

110. What a complete jerk!

[Mkap]

111. well

Well Mr Saxton, if woman can get raped cause their clothes provoke you i guess that means i can punch you cause your smug face provoked me

[smirkymonkey]

112. Please do.

And welcome to DU!

[Brimley]

114. Arizona?

[arely staircase]

115. you reckon this guy has trouble getting a date?

what young lady wouldn't jump at the chance to go out with such a catch.

[Warpy]

126. I read elsewhere that he's a thumper who's saving it for marriage.

If he doesn't get rich quick, that's going to be a long save, buster.

[defacto7]

116. And just who decides what the world wide definition of whore dress is?

I would say that in such a case of mind warp, whore wear is in the eye of the beholder. Then in this context rape would be in the eye of the beholder. Therefore the one who defines the whore wear is the one to be wary of.

There is no such thing as whore dress except in a warped imagination.

[Jefferson23]

117. A young man spreading a very old meme about women. How sad can it get?

" You're probably going to get raped".... I believe that they're pretty much asking for it."

The pathology within this mindset is intense.


Rape Myths and Facts


What do statements like “she really wanted it,” “no way he was assaulted” and “ho’s like that deserve it” have in common? They’re all rape myths—and they’re just a few of the stereotypical, prejudicial and generally false beliefs people have about rape and sexual assault.

Rape myths exist for a number of historical and cultural reasons, including gender role expectations, acceptance of violence and misinformation about sexual assault, and they’re one reason why so many rape victims are shamed into remaining silent.

The best way to confront a rape myth when you hear one is honestly. And to do that, you have to know the facts.

Myth: Rape and sexual assault are about sexual attraction and gratification.
Fact: Rape and sexual assault are all about control and domination.

Myth: A healthy person can resist being raped or sexually assaulted.
Fact: According to the Centers for Disease Control, 1 out of every 6 adult women has been a victim of rape, and approximately 92,700 men are raped in the U.S. each year. Healthy and strong people are raped every day. Rape victims are doctors, lawyers, nurses, military personnel, cooks, accountants, students—anyone and everyone could be vulnerable to rape or sexual assault.

Myth: When it comes to sex, men can be provoked to “a point of no return.”
Fact: Men are physically able to stop at any point during sexual activity. Rape is not an act of impulsive, uncontrollable passion; it is a premeditated act of violence. Research shows that 50% of rapes are planned.

Myth: If a woman goes to her date’s room on the first date, it implies she is willing to have sex.
Fact: Nothing is ever implied. Date rapes comprise 50 to 75% of all reported rapes. The best way to prevent a bad situation is to communicate. If things get hot and heavy and you’re not sure what the other person wants, just ask. Some people feel talking may ruin “the mood.” But doing something without consent is rape—and that’s a real mood killer!

Myth: Rape is usually violent and involves a stranger.
Fact: Actually around 73% of all rapes and 90% of rapes on college campuses are committed by someone the victim knows. Many rapes involve force or the threat of force, but some rapes are committed when the victim is under the influence of drugs or alcohol, or even asleep! Sex against someone’s will is rape under any circumstances.

Myth: When a woman dresses provocatively, she’s asking for trouble.
Fact: Rapists look for easy, vulnerable targets. Thinking that women provoke attacks against them by the way they dress transfers blame from the perpetrator to the victim. Research shows that this particular myth helps others feel better because they think that rape couldn’t happen to them.

in full: http://well.wvu.edu/articles/rape_myths_and_facts


Btw, this guy can go to hell.

[Dem_in_Nebr.]

118. Some men

may deserve to be castrated, too.

This was my original reaction.

It's still my second, third and fourth reaction. I'm speaking as a male.

[DeSwiss]

122. So if you talk like a wanker.....

...and you act like a wanker, then you're definitely a WANKER.

- It would be wonderful if the whole university went out and surrounded his ass and gave him a little of their ''protected speech.''

K&R

[Nanjing to Seoul]

123. My alma mater. (sigh)

[blkmusclmachine]

124. Future Republican Senator from AZ.

[ZRT2209]

127. what a delightful young man, I'm sure employers are lining up for his resume

[MADem]

128. Vulgar and vile doesn't begin to describe how despicable that kind of commentary is.

When people mouth off in provocative ways--and that includes using shit-stirring, offensive speech designed to upset and inflame people--do they then "deserve" some sort of retribution?

It would be a terrible thing if some harm came to this young idiot, but how could he respond, if he were attacked, assaulted, punched out, or set upon and kicked, to someone who said to him that he "deserved it" for insulting people with a vicious broad brush?

Or are only SOME actions "deserving" of his idea of "retribution?"

What a fucking nitwit.

[smirkymonkey]

132. If he ever tried such a thing toward my sister or I, my Father and Brothers would kill him.

They can and they would.

[spicegal]

133. Wow! How do you even respond to something like that. Sounds like he himself has a deep seated

hatred of women. If he's willing to go public with such an offensive sign, I can only imagine what goes on in the deeper recesses of his warped mind. In his mind, I imagine rape is perfectly legitimate because it's all based on the way women dress and act because men after all have no control over their impulses. Is that what he's saying? This guy sounds pretty creepy. Perhaps he should be on someone's watch list.

[malthaussen]

134. You know, sometimes I think re-introducing conscription is a good idea n/t

[vaberella]

136. Shit like that makes me want to castrate that fool. n/t

[Jasana]

137. Sometimes I wish I had an invisible ray gun. This guy is just asking for it.

[brett_jv]

139. There's a certain religion, the adherents of which live primarily in teh Middle East ...

Who have beliefs that dovetail pretty nicely with this tool's message.

They require their women to cover themselves from head to toe, and in some places, even their faces. This is the only way, they reckon, that the menfolk will be able to 'control themselves' in the presence of the womenfolk.

Although a conversion seems in order, instead he probably regularly accuses Obama of being one of 'them', and not in a 'kind' sort of way.

In fact, he probably hates 'those people', despite their shared beliefs ... maybe even as much as he hates women.

Seriously, what an asshat.

[spanone]

141. some people need their heads examined...what fucking universe do they live in?

[RKP5637]

144. Better keep a close eye on this one! He's latently crying out I'm going to rape! n/t