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Thursday TOON Roundup 3- Guns (Original Post) n2doc Apr 2013 OP
One day at the offices.... truebluegreen Apr 2013 #1
All toons SteveG Apr 2013 #2
Thank you for the cartoons Gothmog Apr 2013 #3
K & R Wounded Bear Apr 2013 #4
Man! That stop sign cartoon! Made my point! calimary Apr 2013 #5
Second cartoon hasn't been legal since 1934. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #6
. baldguy Apr 2013 #9
Yep. That's exactly what I thought when I saw the cartoon, given the 1934 National Firearms Act. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #12
This is for you. You don't seem to be handling this well. baldguy Apr 2013 #13
I can't tell which of us is which based on your post. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #15
And thereby lies your problem. baldguy Apr 2013 #16
I don't consider it a problem. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #17
The worst way to deal with your sins is to pretend that they are virtues. baldguy Apr 2013 #18
Call me a conservative again. Go for it. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #19
I call anyone who carries water for extremist RW loonies who want to destroy America "conservative". baldguy Apr 2013 #20
Oh please. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #21
There's that wonderful RW compassion on display. baldguy Apr 2013 #22
That's interesting, I too have a hard time keeping RW'ers on topic, and from constructing pointless AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #23
I'm not the one pushing an extremist RW agenda. baldguy Apr 2013 #24
Sorry to tell you, but that 'pushing' exists only in your head. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #25
Thank you! hedgehog Apr 2013 #7
Most of the time these cartoons get me through the day--thanks! asjr Apr 2013 #8
k&r Electric Monk Apr 2013 #10
k & r surrealAmerican Apr 2013 #11
Cool. Dpm12 Apr 2013 #14

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
6. Second cartoon hasn't been legal since 1934.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 12:54 PM
Apr 2013

Too bad too, because it could have been funny and poignant on multiple levels.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
12. Yep. That's exactly what I thought when I saw the cartoon, given the 1934 National Firearms Act.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 05:35 PM
Apr 2013

If you want an example of satirical commentary that is both poignant AND accurate, see the top cartoon.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
13. This is for you. You don't seem to be handling this well.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 06:30 PM
Apr 2013
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AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
17. I don't consider it a problem.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 03:00 AM
Apr 2013

Gun regulation is a touchy subject. Every misstep costs us. That cartoon is inaccurate. End of story.

Sorry I don't find satire that is also erroneous, funny.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
18. The worst way to deal with your sins is to pretend that they are virtues.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 07:30 AM
Apr 2013

And it's not surprising to me that you don't "get" the satire. Conservatives usually don't, and when they do they don't like it.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
19. Call me a conservative again. Go for it.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 11:13 AM
Apr 2013

I said the first cartoon is funny and accurate. I like it. Nailed it.
The second had potential, but has a gross error.

I 'get' the satire. I abhor incredibly low hanging fruit type errors that will be used to dismiss the cartoon elsewhere. It could have been a home run. If I re-post it elsewhere, I will correct it first.

Quit pretending everyone who doesn't see the world precisely as you do through your personal filters is a 'conservative'.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
20. I call anyone who carries water for extremist RW loonies who want to destroy America "conservative".
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 11:31 AM
Apr 2013

The fascists represented by the NRA & their allies (like you) stand in the way of doing something positive about fact that people are being killed, which doesn't really concern them. That's their shtick. Your shtick. You're more concerned about your guns than your fellow human beings.

Nitpicking on a fucking cartoon over the trivial technical minutia of firearms design is just a small part of it. You're so blinded by your RW dogma that you don't even realize the cartoon isn't as much about guns & gun control as it is about the hypocrisy of US foreign policy - which it accurately portrays.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
21. Oh please.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 11:43 AM
Apr 2013

I suppose this sailed right over your head.

"Too bad too, because it could have been funny and poignant on multiple levels."

It is interesting from a domestic firearms policy level (unregulated re-sales*), a military funding level, AND a foreign policy level.
Unless you want such cartoons to only resonate in the echo chamber of your own mind, it would HELP that cartoon resonate with broader audiences if the cartoon didn't have a glaring, nearly 100 year old error in it.

If you want gun owners (REGARDLESS OF THE POLITICAL LABEL YOU SEEM TO FEEL QUALIFIED TO ASSIGN TO PEOPLE YOU DO NOT KNOW) to pick up on these ideas and actually consider them, you simply cannot have such a glaring error, or it will be dismissed.

And who the fuck are you to tell me I am carrying water for the RW pointing out the cartoon is good but could be better? Get real.
I could just as justifiably accuse YOU of the same thing for promoting and defending policy commentary like this cartoon, that is factually weak and easily dismissed as false propaganda. But at the end of the day, neither of us is a conservative, so get over it.


(*It has a subtler second technical error, anyone who sells a certain number of guns in a month is deemed by the BATFE to be a dealer, and if they proceed without various requirements like the background check, that's a felony, and they DO prosecute those, but I wasn't going to raise it, as it's much subtler than the main error, which since you have not asked me about it, and referred to 'minutiae', I suspect you damn well know what the error is.)

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
22. There's that wonderful RW compassion on display.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 03:37 PM
Apr 2013

Dead kids don't matter as long as you have your gun. Got it.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
23. That's interesting, I too have a hard time keeping RW'ers on topic, and from constructing pointless
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 04:36 PM
Apr 2013

strawmen that don't apply to other participants in the conversation.

Who is looking in whose mirror?

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
25. Sorry to tell you, but that 'pushing' exists only in your head.
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 05:12 PM
Apr 2013

Pointing out an error (well, two now actually) in a SINGLE cartoon, is a pretty thin agenda, as fevered imaginations go, if you ask me.

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