The Most Reliable Windows PC Is A Mac.

[onehandle]

That’s the conclusion of a new report released today by Soluto, which crunched the data from its cloud-based PC monitoring and management software to come up with a list of the 10 most reliable portable PCs you can buy today.

The most reliable Windows PC you can buy today, according to Soluto’s report, doesn’t come from one of the leading hardware OEMs. Instead, it’s built by Microsoft’s archrival Apple. (You'll have to use Apple's Boot Camp utility and buy your own Windows license to transform the Mac into a Windows PC.)

The report also provides a partial answer to the age-old question of whether you should use a vendor’s OEM image of Windows or wipe it and perform a clean installation.

Soluto’s database includes data gathered from millions of machines running Windows. For this study, the company chose a sample of data gathered in the first three months of 2013 from 150,000 portable PCs. They filtered the dataset so it includes only models available for purchase today, running Windows 7 or Windows 8.

http://www.zdnet.com/want-the-most-reliable-windows-pc-buy-a-mac-or-maybe-a-dell-7000014469

[Demo_Chris]

1. BWahahahahAHHAHAhahahAHA!!!!1

Sorry. You were trolling us right?

[Threedifferentones]

93. Translation: Apples still not worth the money.

Considering what you pay for roughly equivalent hardware in PCs, apples had better damn well run smoother.

[Earth_First]

2. Another Apple v. PC thread?

[onehandle]

4. Nope. It's a Apple gets along with PCs just fine thread.

You can run Windows on a Mac, more reliably than you can on any Wintel box.

Save Microsoft. FIRE BALLMER.

[bluedigger]

3. **

[BootinUp]

5. Macs and OSX are great for sure

but they wouldn't be that good if it wasn't for the competition that MS windows brought. One thing is for sure Microsoft will be dominating the small to medium business arena for a long long time. I try to see the strengths and weaknesses of all the OS's and use the one best suited for a particular job.

[onehandle]

6. Makes sense to me. nt

[HipChick]

7. I have 2 company computer laptops...

They suck

I run everything on my 17inc Mac Powerbook...never had an issue running windows application over there..

[rocktivity]

8. I recommend Parallels over Boot Camp

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You don't have partition your hard drive and you don't have boot in and out between platforms -- with enough RAM, you can even run Win and Mac simultaneously.

There is also a program called VMWare Fusion: It eliminates booting between platforms, but requires partitioning. I don't recommend it: I got virus warnings all over the place (I use both MacKeeper and Sophos). Click the pics for more info.

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rocktivity

[onehandle]

9. Me too. nt

[Luminous Animal]

10. I prefer Parallels, too.

[Triana]

18. That's what we do..buy Mac, install Parallels & Windows

Users have both in one toaster and Win runs better on it than on a Stinkpad. And OSx is unix,so they have terminal to ssh to Linux servers + other unix functionality.

[ananda]

11. ROFL

I have a MacBook with Bootcamp. I never use Bootcamp. Why would I when the Mac OS is so fantastic on its own?

[freshwest]

25. Well, supposedly not all things work on a Mac. But I use the free Open Office program for those.

Other than that, I don't miss MS at all, but to each his own. I've never understood why people get so mad at Mac users here.

I don't know anyone offline that has issues with the fact someone else is choosing to use a Mac instead of the other...

I've been using them for over a decade now, no problems other than I don't know what I'm doing some of the time.

[RebelOne]

12. Yes, I love my Mac.

I have had so many PCs die in me, but my Mac Mini just keeps going and going. It has a few glitches, but restart clears them.

[msongs]

13. or...windows is so good even Mac users want it on their apples nt

[DesMoinesDem]

14. So according to this the second most reliable pc costs only a third of the first computer.

And the Mac that came in first scored only slightly better. What a rip off that Mac is.

[SheilaT]

76. I was also struck by the price difference.

And in the middle of the list is the most expensive one of all. Another Mac.

In the early 90's when I was shopping for my first computer, it was striking how much more a Mac was than a PC, and with approximately half the features. No color. Much smaller screen.

My main complaint, which perhaps only reflects my advanced age, is that whatever the OS, they're upgraded and fancy new things added far too quickly.

[JaneyVee]

15. Why run Windows on a Mac, OSx is outstanding.

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. I can think of a few programs

Alas they are that specialized.

[Luminous Animal]

30. I have clients that only use either so I need my computer to run both.

[justiceischeap]

53. As a web developer, I need to run windows on my mac

to test Internet Explorer, the absolute worst browser on the market.

[DotGone]

16. The most reliable Windows PC is the one I built

It smashes any Mac. I can also run OS X on it. For a laptop, I'd take a Thinkpad over a Mac for a fraction of the price.

[Initech]

24. Yeah I got a Lenovo Y500 with my tax refund.

No way in hell am I paying a 3x premium for a Mac with retina display. Back lit keyboard, SSD, 1080p screen, Intel i7, can't go wrong.

As for desktops - I'll never buy a pre built rig as long as I live. Self built all the way. For my next PC it's definitely going to be an mATX rig based around the Fractal Design Node 605.

[Triana]

17. True. Windows runs much better on a Mac than on a PC.

That's been our experience!

[olddots]

19. I'm running a Shmengar 1040 with Acne SUV 10

I was dumb enough to think that a computer that was half the price of a mac couldn't be 1/2 the computer and it isn't
It's 1/10 the computer

[jazzimov]

20. $1200 for a laptop? That's f'cking ridiculous!

$2199 for a Retina??????? There's no way.

Nice to know about the Acer, I may have to check that one out!

[rocktivity]

94. DING DING DING! Jazzimov, you're our grand prize winner!

Nice to know about the Acer, I may have to check that one out!

Same here -- thanks to this thread, I no longer have to wonder what Windows notebook to buy.


rocktivity

[cui bono]

21. Ah... corporate worship.

It is funny how Mac owners are so defensive and always have to try to prove their choice is better.

* I own both, use either depending on what I need to do. Would just use pc if I could due to them being 1/3 the cost. Each one crashes just as much as the other, rare for both. So whatever.

[Floyd_Gondolli]

37. My problem with apple products

Is that there is a whole swath of websites I simply can't use because of flash. Am I missing something? Is there away around this?

[Initech]

22. Wrong!!!! Want the most reliable PC on the market? Build one yourself!

I have two self built PC's - one for work and one for games and movies. Neither one has given me a single lick of trouble. I'll never go back to big box vendors as long as I live.

[teamster633]

32. Absolutely

I built this for under $1900, fully $300 less than a MacBook Pro 15. A year and a half later and it can still crush anything I throw at it.

PROCESSOR: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor (3.8GHz Turbo Boost--4.2 GHz standard overclock)
MOTHERBOARD: MSI P67A-GD80 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
VIDEO CARD: EVGA GeForce GTX 580 3072 MB GDDR5
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Radioactive DDR3 PC 12800 (4x4 GB)
HEATSINK: Cooler Master V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
POWER SUPPLY: Thermaltake Toughpower XT TPX-775M 775W ATX 12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
CHASSIS: Thermaltake Level 10 GT Chassis
-----DISK DRIVES
BOOT: Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive
APPLICATIONS: Western Digital 300GB Velociraptor @10000 rpm Internal HDD
DATA 1: LaCie Quadra 1TB eSata external HDD
DATA 2: Western Digital 2TB Caviar Black Internal HDD
DATA 3: Western Digital 2TB Caviar Black Internal HDD
BACKUP: Western Digital 750GB MyBook External HDD

[Initech]

35. This is what's on my rig:

Case: Corsair Graphite 600T
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKII 950W
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H
CPU: 3.4 GHz Intel Core i5-3570k
Cooler: EVGA M020
RAM: 16GB Mushkin Enhanced Blackline
SSD: 128 GB Samsung 830
HD: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Green
Optical: Plextor B940SA
Video Card: 2x Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition

[beevul]

41. My now aging rig.

Antec 1200 (behemoth) case

thermaltake 680 watt psu

gigabyte z68xp-ud3p motherboard

core I5 2500k cpu

corsair cafa 70 cpu cooler mounted vertically

16 gb of g.skill ddr3 2133

WD black 1gb primary drive and an assortment of older sata drives lol

asus dvd writer, lg hd-dvd/blu ray drive

evga gtx 560 ti 1gb

37" lg led lcd hdtv (monitor)

Ran OC @4.3 ghz since the day I assembled her, and still very fast and comparable to current tech.

And the blu ray is just /drool.

[Initech]

44. I have that same motherboard in my work PC.

My work rig runs:

- Case: Corsair Carbide 500R
- Power Supply: Seasonic X750 Gold
- Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P
- CPU: 3.2 GHz Intel Core i5-3450 (upgraded from 3.1 GHz Intel Core i3-2120)
- 16GB DDR 3 1600 MHz 1.5V Corsair XMS 3 RAM
- 128 GB OCZ Vertex 4 SSD
- 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3
- LG Blu Ray Burner
- EVGA Ge Force GTX 660

[GoneOffShore]

38. You are comparing, pardon the pun, Apples to oranges.

The study is about laptops.

Can you build your own laptop?

Will it fit in a Timbuktu messenger bag?

Can you plug it into 220V/50hz electric sockets?

Can you take it to the coffee shop and work?

Or into another room at all?

[lumberjack_jeff]

23. Three of the #2 machines cost about the same as one mac. n/t

[shanti]

26. until you spill a drink on it

*looking down*

[VanillaRhapsody]

27. I am a web developer and for my personal use...

I buy a new Windows machine every 2.5 to 3 yrs. I invest about $600 aprox on them. Why would I want to spend triple on a Mac and then want new gigaws in a couple years? All you need to know is that every other iteration of Windows sucks...so I buy on the opposite years. For example the latest sucks...luckily I bought this machine last year. The next version of Windows will be awesome compared to 8. It's been going on for years....

[Luminous Animal]

31. I bought my Mac laptop 8 years ago and spent $1200.

It came loaded with software. It has never crashed. It has never failed me. The OS never sucks. The only time I had to take it in was when I spilled on the keyboard.

So far, I've spent less than you.

[RebelOne]

45. Yes, I have spilled a lot of stuff on my keyboard,

but I don't take the computer in for repair, I just buy a new keyboard. I am now on my second keyboard because I spilled a glass of wine on the other one.

[VanillaRhapsody]

48. and you still have an 8 yr old Mac and I have the lastest hardware!

Sorry you lose!

[VanillaRhapsody]

49. an 8 yr old Mac is hardly comparable to this Windows 7 machine

which I will replace again when the next iteration of Windows drops which will be great! So no....you spent too much 8 yrs ago...and will again when you spend even more for another! And that won't be long!

It's about what I get for my investment.....And by the way....I mentioned I am a Web Developer and therefore a high end multitasking user....running expensive software tools every single day. If you paid 1200 for a Mac so you can read email and surf the web...you got overkill and paid too much!

Don't get me wrong..Mac's are nice machines....if you are a high end graphic artist or desktop publisher. But if you just surf websites and read email...you got jackked!

[Agschmid]

86. Your opinion is jacked. EOM

[VanillaRhapsody]

87. and I don't care what you think of my opinion...EOM!

the truth is the truth....

[Agschmid]

90. Unless it is wrong? Right?

Buy you are entitled to your opinion...

[VanillaRhapsody]

91. I am entitled to say that Apple Computers are excellent especially if you are a desktop publisher or

graphic artist etc.

For most people who only surf the web or read email...they are an unnecessary expense and overkill...period....end of story.

[Agschmid]

92. In my opinion I highly disagree...

From my iPhone... Also known as my mini Apple computer... Used for browsing the Internet.

[VanillaRhapsody]

88. I happen to own an Apple computer from the 1980's

is that also equivalant to my current laptop? No??

See??? don't be ridiculous

[Luminous Animal]

51. I don't need the latest hardware. It's the software that is important to me so that I can

run my bookkeeping business. So far so good and I have spent less for a fully functional piece of equipment that causes me no problems.

[VanillaRhapsody]

54. not for long.....still overkill for bookkeeping...

wait till you see the price tag of your next one!

Fully functional for bookkeeping and surfing the web! LOL (shakes head). Reminds me of folks that bought Humvee's for their commute to work on the freeway!

[Luminous Animal]

64. Well, I am not a mere bookkeeper. I do financial planning, budgeting, production management,

asset and inventory management... many of the systems that I use I created myself in Excel and Filemaker.

I use the term bookkeeper because I am generally self-effacing. I currently have a full time job (though looking forward to going back to joining my husband in our own business - I hope this summer). My title is Controller and yes, I need my Humvee in order to do my work.

And yes, I suspect that I will need a new laptop in about a year and I am expecting that the new one will last me 8-9 years.

[tabbycat31]

63. invest in a keyboard cover

I have one for my Sony and spilled orange juice on the thing 2 years ago. Instead of a panic attack, I took the cover off and rinsed it off in the bathroom sink. That $20 saved me $600.

Plus it keeps my white keyboard clean.

[RebelOne]

81. Your keyboard would have cost you $600?

PC keyboards are dirt cheap. Even my replacement Mac keyboard, which is pricey, was only $50.

[tabbycat31]

82. It's a laptop not a desktop

This is what I have--- same color too

http://www.amazon.com/HDE%C2%AE-Blue-Keyboard-Skin-Fits/dp/B007PJE17M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1367019549&sr=8-2&keywords=sony+vaio+keyboard+skin

[we can do it]

55. 2.5 to 3 yrs?? I'm using a 2006 Mac book pro daily without a hitch. Want to try again?

[VanillaRhapsody]

56. You missed my point....I do it BECAUSE I like having the latest Ram and other NEW gadgets

and features....I don't JUST surf the web! Which is my point you DON"T have to spend thousands to JUST surf and read email or play on Facebook!

[we can do it]

57. Me either, we do programming and graphics

[VanillaRhapsody]

58. Okay you have a specific need for a Mac perhaps then....but the average schmo really doesn't...

[we can do it]

59. I like to get things done quickly!

[VanillaRhapsody]

60. and I am a web programmer and Adobe products are my friend!

[EOTE]

65. Then get a good laptop with an SSD and lots of RAM.

For a family member, I picked up a $200 netbook, upgraded the RAM for $20 and upgraded to a rather speedy and large SSD for $90. So for a bit more than $300, I got a sleek and very portable laptop that will run anything she wants very quickly. In a few years she'll probably pick up another and spend another $300 or so on it and she'll still have spent less than half of what she would have if she had bought a MacBook. It's hardware that makes a computer quick and Apple charges entirely too much for theirs. I also game and Macs suck so incredibly badly for gaming. Forgetting that you can't get the latest GPUs for Macs of any kind, the top-of-the-line GPUs (for Macs, anyway) are ridiculously priced, typically two times or more as the PC equivalent which is the exact same card (without the Mac flashed BIOS).

Even if I had to buy premade machines, I'd still buy a PC. But the fact that you can build your own PC means you get exactly the computer you want. I've built my own Hackintoshes before, but I quickly turned it back to a Windows 7/Linux box as I had no desire for OSX. It ran perfectly well, though. When Apple switched to Intel architecture, it made cross compatibility much easier.

[we can do it]

71. I have one. You go ahead with that pc I don't need the headache.

Our macs don't have a compatibility issue. We have software that works with both platforms, there is no reason to buy a pc. My time is worth more than working with a shitty machine and microsoft crap.

[EOTE]

72. Yeah, why buy a PC when you get spend three times as more on a Mac for inferior hardware.

A PC can do anything you want with it, Macs have extremely limited software choices. My PCs never provide anything close to a headache, I simply put it together and it works. Not only that, but I can actually game well on my PC, even at ridiculous resolutions. They put those high resolution screens on Macs and then give them shitty GPUs that can't do the displays any justice. Try gaming at 2560x1600 on a Mac, what a joke. Unless you're playing a game that's a decade old or so, the Mac is going to sputter and give up. But, for a 3rd the price, I can make a PC which would run any modern game at that resolution quite well. Plus it could do any business or home theater functions I'd need of it too. If you've got money to waste and you want to waste it on a Mac, that's fine. But don't pretend that that over priced toy is as capable in any way as a PC that's less than a half the cost.

[we can do it]

74. You do realize its 2013 don't you? Save your nonsense, its pc's with compatibility issues.

I use my computer as a tool- I make more money when I get things done quickly. (I'm not hourly and like to sit around all day waiting for something to happen, or continuously buy new machines.- I fix tons of shit done on pcs and shit software like pubelicker, so spare me). If you want to eat shit and call it caviar go ahead, just don't try to push it on everyone else.

I'm not wasting anymore time on this nonsense.

[EOTE]

75. Yes. It's 2013 and the Mac is just now getting GPUs that are more than a year old.

You can finally get a GTX 680 on a Mac, about 14 months after they were released for PCs. Of course, you'll spend $700 for that 680, about 50% more than it cost for PCs when they first came out. But at least you'll get that cool Mac sticker on it. PCs with compatibility issues? You do know that pretty much any modern peripheral works on PCs, right? You also know that almost all GPUs and peripherals need to have specially flashed BIOSes in order to function on Macs, right? It's the exact same damned hardware, but Apple knows that it's customers are extremely easy to fleece, so they make sure that you pay anywhere from 50% to 150% more for it. I'm also hoping that you know that after 18 years in IT, it's incredibly easy to shut down flimsy arguments made by the technologically clueless.

[we can do it]

79. OOOOOH GTX 680. IT = dependant on fixing shitty pcs. Stuff it dude, I'm not a gamer or clueless.

I do know that most mac users have NO USE FOR YOU. I can set up my own networks and install my own software, print queues, servers and fix idiot pc crap software hack's files so they can actually print. I can also convert most shit that pc dumbasses think are print ready because they can see it on their monitor, its ready to go . Get over your damn self - its pathetic.

[EOTE]

83. So you waste your money for the hell of it?

Mac users have no use for me because there's really not a whole lot you can do with a Mac. They're rather expensive toys, which is ironic as you can't even game on one without spending at least a couple grand. Even as a business machine, you spend two to three times as much just for the shiny case you get. But you're an authority because you can print shit. You go on with your bad self, dude.

[LostOne4Ever]

28. Reminded me of this

Some bad language for those who may be offended:

[Archaic]

33. A fresh install of an OS is more reliable than a manufacturer's build.

That's all they're saying.

There's so much spyware/freeware and crap installed on a PC/notebook by the major manufacturers. Apple doesn't install Windows, so when you install it, it starts fresh.

That said, I convinced the boss to let me have a retina 13" macbook pro because it has ridiculous resolution. 2560x1600 in a 13" display which is awesome for multi-tasking like I do.

I run OSX, then use a VMware VDI with all my corporate software. This way if the notebook is stolen or seized, no information was ever locally installed, and I lose nothing. You can't even tell who I work for.

[FredisDead]

34. The Cult Of Apple

[hunter]

36. I find my computers in the trash.

And I won't use Apple or Microsoft software unless someone is paying me.

It's been an evolution. Disappointed with the rapid obsolescence of computers I first set a limit of $300 for any replacement computer. Then my limit was $100, now it's maybe $10 but usually less than that, something I find on the curb with a "FREE" sign on it, or some other kind of hand-me-down.

My favorite operating system is Linux.

Thanks everyone for buying your computers new and upgrading them often. That's the only reason some of us can even afford computers.

[flobee1]

68. and with the release of windows 8

everybody is unloading their xp machines-I am about to be overrun with free laptops ready to be loaded with linux

[CBGLuthier]

39. The two most expensive PCs are Macs.

[Xyzse]

40. I see, basically the comparison is flawed.

The article pretty much states that:

"The secret of their success isn’t all that surprising. Both companies deliver relatively clean installations of Windows, with close attention paid to drivers. Dell includes minimal amounts of third-party software in its PCs, a practice that adds to the reliability of its products."

Since the Apple products were wiped and installed with a clean version of Windows, it doesn't have to contend with crap-ware that many PCs get stuck with.

So, the best thing to do really is to figure out the key code for the OEM version of Windows and see if you can download from a reputable source the same version of Windows and use your license to place a clean install.

Although you have to make sure that you have the correct drivers, and you have a superior machine.

Kinda figured that part to begin with... Bloatware really needs to be taken out, but that is what makes PCs cheaper.

[EOTE]

66. Most computers come with OS and driver discs with valid codes.

So if I'm not putting together a system from scratch, I'll almost always start with a fresh OS install. As you said, bloatware can really burden a system. A fresh install is a no brainer.

[Xyzse]

70. Agreed...

Was just explaining the reason the Macs were way up there.
Their installations are clean with no bloatware from the manufacturers.

Definitely a no brainer.

[Arkana]

42. Yes, if you've got $2K in spare change.

I can kit out an HP desktop for half that and as long as I take care of it it performs just as well as any Mac.

[Orrex]

43. Apple is a great option for people who want to spend 3X as much for no good reason

I'm happy to absorb a "Soluto" differential of .07 if it means I'm saving $770 on the deal.

[LanternWaste]

46. Best tasting Coca-Cola is Pepsi.

Best tasting Coca-Cola is Pepsi. The brand wars continue as we now embrace the one, sneer at the other, and allow Madison Avenue to tell us what we like (however, I do realize we will all rationalize the branding we prefer as a "clear, critical, and analytic choice based on ever so much more than sugar and syrup ratios... as Madison Avenue evolves, so to do our justifications for following their leads evolve).

[edhopper]

47. If cost is no object

It also appears that Dells and Acers are better than a Mac that is over 3X as expensive.
I'll save my money and stick with the Dells that have served me well for over 15 years.

[Rex]

50. Apple trolling...whatever...

Get back to me when you are talking about workstations or servers...what a sad little thread just meant to stir up shit.

[LAGC]

89. That's the OP's MO, don'tcha know?

Shilling for Apple non-stop.

If it isn't overpriced Macs, its overpriced iPhones or iPads or iPods and damn all competitors to those products!

At first I thought the OP was just a fanboy, but its becoming increasingly obvious he's being paid to give his "opinions."

[2ndAmForComputers]

52. I'll have the second-placed one for one third of the price, Alex.

[whistler162]

61. Thanks for the laugh!

and for only close to 2x the cost of the second place finisher! Both are as upgradeable, as in very limited! There are ones born every minute.

[burnodo]

62. This may be OTHER

I just bought an iPad 4

As a lifelong PC user, I can't say I dislike anything about it as of yet.

[trumad]

67. A PC user my whole life--- I bought a Mac Air last week.

Been working with it since---understanding the touchpad, switching desktop views, etc....

Fuck me---Unbelievably easy.

I still work my PC laptop for some business use--- It feels like a led brick.

I've had many people over the years say once you've used MAC you won't go back.

They are correct.

See ya PC.

[RedstDem]

69. i think my samsung lappy blows away everything on that list

My macbook pro has big problems hardware wise.
Love my Sammy though, running windows 7
Best so far for me.

[Throd]

73. The most reliable Ford is a Chevrolet.

Or the other way around...

[Bjorn Against]

77. The laptop I spent $550 on last year can outperform even a top of the line Mac on gaming

I play PC games and I like to crank the graphics up on them, Macs suck at running games as do most Intel based laptops aside from the extremely expensive gaming laptops. My AMD based laptop however can run Bioshock Infinite at near max settings, there is not a single game on the market that I can not run on my machine with graphics cranked up to at least high settings if not max while many laptops that cost three times as much struggle with games.

For me the only laptops that do what I want them to do at an affordable price are the AMD based laptops with the Radeon graphics chips, I simply don't know how Intel and Apple can justify charging so much for machines that can't even run most modern games.

[Shankapotomus]

78. LOL

Take that PC. Ahahahaha.....bwahahaa...

[SomethingFishy]

80. Yeah at 2 and 3 times the price...

Not everyone can afford a Mac. And if you are a tinkerer and love to tinker with your computer then PC craps all over Mac. They both have their strengths... and weaknesses.

[Recursion]

84. Awww... proprietary operating systems. How quaint

Meanwhile, Ubuntu 13.04 was released yesterday. Fear not the penguin!

[IDemo]

85. Yep, that Apple hardware can't be beat

Intel processor and chipset, DDR3 memory, graphics by NVidia and other industry leaders, all artfully arranged on a green PCB and running on DC power. How can the other guys ever catch up?