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alp227

(32,016 posts)
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:20 PM Apr 2013

West Virginia legislator: Children should "work for their lunches"

Last edited Thu Apr 25, 2013, 04:49 PM - Edit history (1)

This remark by West Virginia state delegate Ray Canterbury (Greenbrier County) is just now making the rounds in the national blogosphere including Huffington Post and Washington Post.

The West Virginia State Journal explains the bill:

The House of Delegates approved a measure Friday evening that would provide free breakfast and lunches to public schoolchildren across the state.

The Feed to Achieve Act, Senate Bill 663, came from the Senate's new Select Committee on Children and Poverty. It aims to encourage private donations to school board-established funds or nonprofits to pay for the meals. The bill also recognizes physical activity as part of a healthy lifestyle and allows the county school boards to use the funds for other programs such as summer lunch programs, community gardens or farm-to-school initiatives.

But although delegates agree it would be difficult to deny food to a hungry children, members of the House of Delegates debated for nearly two hours on the ins and outs of the measure.

"There's no such thing as a free lunch," Delegate Ray Canterbury, R-Greenbrier, reiterated several times while speaking to the bill. He said his parents taught him to work hard and to not expect handouts from the government or anyone else.

"I think what we're doing is undermining work ethic and teaching students they don't have to work hard," he said before adding, "I think it would be a good idea if perhaps the kids work for their lunches."


And as the Charleston Gazette reported back on Apr. 13:

Delegate Ray Canterbury, R-Greenbrier, predicted the program could set up children for failure, "destroying their work ethic" and "showing them there's an easy way." Canterbury suggested that students "work for their lunches" by mowing lawns and taking out trash at schools.


The Gazette also reported that the bill passed...89-9. 89-9? Wow! The WV House has 54 Democrats and 46 Republicans, so it seems that even REPUBLICANS in this state voted for...gasp!...SOCIALISM!!! FREE STUFF!!!! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_West_Virginia,_2012 Back in 2012 70% of WV Republican voters voted for Mr. 47% Romney, and Romney won WV with 62% of the vote and won EVERY county including the counties where Charleston and Huntington are located!)

This AP report quotes Del. Canterbury in full:

I think it would be a good idea if perhaps we had the kids work for their lunches: trash to be taken out, hallways to be swept, lawns to be mowed, make them earn it. If they miss a lunch or they miss a meal they might not, in that class that afternoon, learn to add, they may not learn to diagram a sentence, but they'll learn a more important lesson.


As the Gazette and AP reported, Democrats in the House spent some good time calling out Canterbury:

"It's looking at how to feed the children in a healthy way, as well as increasing their activity," said House Education Committee Chairwoman Mary Poling, D-Barbour.


"Kids can't learn if they're hungry," said House Majority Leader Brent Boggs, D-Braxton.


Delegate Meshea Poore, D-Kanawha, said Republicans were trying to mislead people about the bill.

"I'm offended anybody in this body would dare say a child has to work for their meals," Poore said. "I can't believe someone would say a first-grader, a second-grader . . . a fifth-grader has to labor before they eat. This isn't an entitlement bill."


This Canterbury guy also introduced a bill requiring public schools to use science fiction in curriculum.

Sheesh, why the hell is a state legislator for West Virginia (which had the highest labor union membership rate in 2011) essentially advocating child labor?
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West Virginia legislator: Children should "work for their lunches" (Original Post) alp227 Apr 2013 OP
Why do these stupid stupid people not understand that a kid "works" by going to school? CBGLuthier Apr 2013 #1
Oh you silly thing. You are being way to reasonable. They don't get that. No they southernyankeebelle Apr 2013 #2
Jesus Christ. Remind me never to set foot in that cesspool. Aristus Apr 2013 #3
Does not surprise me at all LittleBlue Apr 2013 #4
BUT those who CAN pay for their lunches, CAN still MOOCH off their parents? freshwest Apr 2013 #5
Says the guy that gets a free lunch everyday. Rex Apr 2013 #6
He said his parents taught him to work hard and to not expect handouts from the government or anyone Maeve Apr 2013 #7
Smart money says Mr. Canterbury Arkana Apr 2013 #8
... Melinda Apr 2013 #9
If working is so important they can teach that at home themselves. Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #10
In fairness, the legislators work for their lobbyists, so it's kind of the same thing Orrex Apr 2013 #11
I certainly hope Mr. Canterbury burnodo Apr 2013 #12
Tell Ray the novels of Charles Dickens were not meant to be used as a blueprint for society TeamPooka Apr 2013 #13
I was born and raised in WV thatgemguy Apr 2013 #14
Which politicians? WV has a (D) governor/both US Senators alp227 Apr 2013 #18
This is so typical mariema Apr 2013 #15
"Are there no work houses? Are there no prisons?" WI_DEM Apr 2013 #16
And those parapeligics! They should work for their wheelchairs!!! Taverner Apr 2013 #17
I wonder how much government teat Mr. Canterbury is sucking on? yellowcanine Apr 2013 #19
If young kids are running lawn mowers, carrying trash bins, mopping hallways aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2013 #20
This situation may be Canterbury's strategy to defund public education. n/t alp227 Apr 2013 #21
Boy state Republicans really are stupid and crazy. Initech Apr 2013 #22
 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
2. Oh you silly thing. You are being way to reasonable. They don't get that. No they
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:25 PM
Apr 2013

want those kids to pay one way or other. Now we already see poor kids get bullied because sometimes they don't have the right cloths to wear. Now they will be bullied because they are forced to work for a meal. Way to go republicans. People need to open their eyes. However, republicans don't give a damn.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
3. Jesus Christ. Remind me never to set foot in that cesspool.
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:26 PM
Apr 2013

It's starting to look like the fucking moon anyway...

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. BUT those who CAN pay for their lunches, CAN still MOOCH off their parents?
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:35 PM
Apr 2013

Nice way to wage the class war and make sure the poor don't have the leisure time to learn.

A big DUFU to him from me.



 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
6. Says the guy that gets a free lunch everyday.
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:37 PM
Apr 2013

He wants kids to understand, 'do as I say, not as I do' early on in life.

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
7. He said his parents taught him to work hard and to not expect handouts from the government or anyone
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:39 PM
Apr 2013

I assume he got no inheritance from them, they didn't pay for HIS school lunches, nor give him an allowance, or buy his clothes or school supplies....
Now to go after those lazy babies and their constant demand for diapers! And food! What do they ever do to deserve THAT????

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
8. Smart money says Mr. Canterbury
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:41 PM
Apr 2013

has at least one relative on public assistance. It's West Virginia--generally very poor, very rural. The odds are VERY good.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
10. If working is so important they can teach that at home themselves.
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:46 PM
Apr 2013

He can make his children clean their rooms, empty the garbage, clean the poop out of the dog yard etc. There's plenty of ways he can teach his kids...call it home schooling.

 

burnodo

(2,017 posts)
12. I certainly hope Mr. Canterbury
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 01:49 PM
Apr 2013

Doesn't accept the free health care he's given by the state. Wouldn't want anyone to think he's a hypocrite or anything.

thatgemguy

(506 posts)
14. I was born and raised in WV
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 02:20 PM
Apr 2013

It is a beautiful state. Too bad the idiot politicians are destroying it. I'm glad I no longer live there.

alp227

(32,016 posts)
18. Which politicians? WV has a (D) governor/both US Senators
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 02:42 PM
Apr 2013

Despite having voted Romney in 2012, WV also has Democratic majorities in both the Senate and House. Are those Democrats DLC types or coal industry puppets?

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
20. If young kids are running lawn mowers, carrying trash bins, mopping hallways
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 02:55 PM
Apr 2013

you can bet that the school will either have to increase reserves for premises liability insurance where they are self-insured or take out additional private insurance coverage. And how will they handle cases where kids get injured doing this work? If the idea is that they are working in exchange for food are they then de facto employees entitled to worker's comp?

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