I heard today that big brother made his money selling weed

[malaise]

None of this makes sense.

[flamingdem]

1. I think it might have been younger brother

there's a video of older brother at a backyard party and the "best friend" of his is smoking pot on camera.

[malaise]

8. You know what I really don't get

If you don't like the US and Americans, go back to your effin' place of origin or somewhere where you'll be happy. Who the fuck are they to think America is operating on their terms. Just pack your bags and go.

[flamingdem]

37. Their iphones don't work in Chechnya

In other words they were partially assimilated and probably unwilling to go home but cranky about what had happened to their people. All that seems like an excuse for a violent guy to channel his rage, once again mental health but with a geopolitical twist. Younger brother seems mindless and easily manipulated. I doubt the issue of his faith won't come up much going forward. I find it strange to think of how the parents will behave when they get back to the US. I think they are here already.

[malaise]

45. I think their fucked up family

and their failure to be Borat also played a part with these sociopaths

[Rex]

2. Selling weed in Boston?

I would imagine something happened when he went to Russia. Otherwise, selling dope in a huge city...is not a shocker.

[malaise]

5. That's not the surprise

No non-Rasta religious zealot would be selling weed.

[Rex]

9. Well this is America and not Iran

so maybe the kids started off secular and then watched some wacko videos on extreme Islam as they smoked their brains into mush.

You do have a good point, not what I would expect for an extremist to be making his main form of cash. I personally think something happened to him in Russia and the FBI just could not pin him down long enough to hold him for anything.

The younger brother, dunno I hope we get to hear something from him one day - namely some answers as to why.

[Voice for Peace]

30. um.. I don't think smoking pot would turn their brains to mush and their minds to jihad

[octothorpe]

24. The Taliban are religious zealots and they have that whole opium thing going...

[spanone]

27. bwahahahahaaa ya mon

[malaise]

29. LOL

[snooper2]

3. my weed guy makes money selling weed

LOL


-

wait,
that's my money! I'm getting screwed!

[malaise]

10. None of this would happen if they followed Peter Tosh

[CJCRANE]

4. It depends what "sense" you're looking to put on it. nt

[malaise]

6. Islam and weed

Does that make sense?

[CJCRANE]

7. The word hashish comes from Arabic. What do you think they put in those hubbly bubblies? nt

[malaise]

13. Well I do know that ganja came to our parts from India

with the indentured Indians and yes I know there's hashish but I never heard of fundamentalists and weed.

[CJCRANE]

19. Well, I don't know what those mujahideen guys get up to in the mountains

but it wouldn't surprise me if they have a few tokes. Remember alcohol is forbidden.

[malaise]

21. LOL

Weed or that poppy stuff?

[kestrel91316]

31. Cannabis strains from Afghanistan and the ME are rather nice - Kush, Afghani,

Mazar i Sharif, etc.

[JI7]

20. Terrorists rarely live according to Islamic moral codes

[Blue_In_AK]

42. Yes. n/t

[ThomThom]

46. he found religion and gave up the weed

his wife supported the family by working 70 to 80 hours a week
he may be involved in the death of a past friend that was selling pot over a year ago but that is just speculation at this time

[Blue Owl]

39. Sensimela?

Or not...

[LisaL]

11. Heard where?

I don't believe it.
He became extremely religious and stopped smoking/drinking.

[malaise]

14. Heard it on that crap program with that Cupp lady running over with

stupidity

[LisaL]

26. I am guessing she was just running her mouth.

[PeaceNikki]

12. he was probably not making much beyond keeping himself high

Unless he was pushing HUGE amounts. One cannot generally earn a living on dime bags-half ounces.

[LisaL]

15. The older one wasn't keeping himself high.

Only the younger one is alleged to be a pothead.

[PeaceNikki]

17. perhaps, but I stand by the statement that there is not a ton of money unless

he was pushing big quantities.

Maybe he was...

[malaise]

16. Well they didn't dress like paupers

even if they lived in squalor

[PeaceNikki]

18. yeah, I guess we'll find out more as the story develops.

It does seem weird, but the whole thing is weird.

[reformist2]

22. Maybe they think there's nothing wrong with selling it to non-believers?

[malaise]

23. Then why would he attack the halal butcher for selling turkeys at

Thanksgiving?

[whttevrr]

25. Doesn't Afghanistan have a fighting season that coincides with the poppy harvest?

Afghanistan is extremely religious and a huge amount of drugs is harvested and sold to fund their fighting.

[malaise]

28. Yep you're right - sell heroin to the infidels

You just don't think about weed and Islam in the West - it never dawned on me that someone could be a zealot and selling weed.

[whttevrr]

33. Rules suspended during jihad?

I thought I read somewhere that the holy warriors get an exemption of rules when fighting for their god.

[malaise]

34. was it the drug wars or the drugs for wars?

[Recursion]

36. I saw plenty of mujahedeen in Iraq who were high on khat all the time

Though I've never tried khat (always kind of wanted to) and I don't know how it compares on the buzz scale or whether it's theoretically haram or not.

[Fawke Em]

32. Did he do it to fund his war against Emmanuel Goldstein?

[FarCenter]

35. His friend, Brendan Mess, was selling weed. The younger brother smoked.

The older brother probably smoked as well. But after his "conversion", it would appear that he stopped and probably objected to his younger brother's smoking. He may have killed Brendan Mess, either for not stopping dealing to younger brother, or as a proof of his alligence to an Islamic cell.

[flamingdem]

38. Do cells require proof of worthiness via killing? That sounds just like a gang nt

[FarCenter]

47. Same principle, the recruit has to commit a crime that a law officer could not do

To make sure they are not being infiltrated.

[H2O Man]

41. While I do not

have any source (I'm stuck downstairs in my home), I've read that there is a connection between the words "hashish" and "assasin." Also, an associate who lived for decades in the India-Pakistan-Afghanistan region told me of a group of dangerous men in that area who indeed smoked hash to calm and focus their minds, in preparation for missions. (Odd, that. Not my impression of the stuff.)

People have paid for violence and wars for a long, long time, by selling various drugs. Likewise, flooding a population with relatively cheap, available substances has long been a tactic of control. For the powers-that-be have always found it much easier to deal with a merry band of fools, than a single intelligent, sober, unhappy person.

Just my opinion, but I don't think it's surprising. Marijuana is a substance that can be used for good, or abused for bad.

[malaise]

43. Interesting

Nice post - thanks Waterman

[Lizzie Poppet]

44. Well...at least he had SOMETHING going for him.