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(47,271 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 01:55 PM Apr 2013

Twin Cities radio host gets heat for telling Newtown families 'go to hell'

Twin Cities radio talk-show host Bob Davis has lost an advertiser and is being offered an all-expenses-paid trip to Newtown, Conn., to repeat what he said on the air recently: that the families who lost loved ones in the Sandy Hook school shooting can “go to hell” for taking a visible role in the national debate on gun control.

The criticism of the conservative co-host of the “Davis and Emmer” show on KTCN (AM 1130) centers on this perspective from Davis on April 12: “I have something I want to say to the victims of Newtown or any other shooting, I don’t care if it’s here in Minneapolis or anyplace else: Just because a bad thing happened to you doesn’t mean that you get to put a king in charge of my life. I’m sorry that you suffered a tragedy, but you know what? Deal with it, and don’t force me to lose my liberty, which is a greater tragedy than your loss.

(snip)

Acknowledging that his comments angered some people, Davis explained himself on his next show, three days later. He said he understands that families of the victims of the elementary school shooting in December would want to “dedicate their lives to the memory of their children.”... Another four days later, Davis told listeners that he “made an inappropriate comment” and “did not mean to criticize the families of the victims. … I want to offer my most sincere and total apology to all the families for any further pain those words may have caused.”

(snip)

Over the weekend in a commentary posted on www.startribune.com, Brad Greene of Sandy Hook, Conn., said he sent Davis an e-mail “offering to pay his travel expenses to Newtown to stand in front of people and repeat the words he said on the radio. It is no surprise that he has not responded to my offer.”

(snip)

Late last week, “Davis and Emmer” sponsor Atomic Data said it was immediately and permanently pulling its advertising in light of Davis’ comments. A statement from the company said, “We don’t believe, as Bob Davis seems to, that being mean and resentful is a ‘liberty.’ It’s disrespectful, and, in Bob’s case, it crossed the line of civility.”

More..

http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/tv/204097941.html


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Twin Cities radio host gets heat for telling Newtown families 'go to hell' (Original Post) question everything Apr 2013 OP
He deserves more than "heat".... DonViejo Apr 2013 #1
The parent company of the radio station is Clear Channel question everything Apr 2013 #3
Funny how these guys never get fired ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2013 #9
Udon't realize how close He is to feeling consequences MinnesotaBuilder Apr 2013 #15
I'd love to see the Newtown parents tear that asshole limb from limb. Initech Apr 2013 #2
You are advocating ..... oldhippie Apr 2013 #4
Perhaps a dictionary sharp_stick Apr 2013 #5
There have been many, many threads here on DU ..... oldhippie Apr 2013 #7
You can take down a person without shooting someone. Initech Apr 2013 #8
Who said anything about shooting someone? oldhippie Apr 2013 #11
Not literally. Initech Apr 2013 #12
One helped with his LetterToEditor (story was dying) - Time to stepUp-pressure advertisers MinnesotaBuilder Apr 2013 #16
“....Did not mean to criticize the families of the victims...." kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #6
Bob Davis riverwalker Apr 2013 #10
KEY INACCURACY - when did he apologize (&did he) MinnesotaBuilder Apr 2013 #13
Hello ~ MinnesotaBuilder In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #14
Welcome to DU my friend! hrmjustin Apr 2013 #24
The fucking scumbag should be off the air malaise Apr 2013 #17
Here is How -partial ****LIST OF ADVERTISERS MinnesotaBuilder Apr 2013 #18
You know people didn't just lose their young children malaise Apr 2013 #20
Just another illustration of how selfish and cold hearted treestar Apr 2013 #19
Example- Davis & Emmer on ARTISTS & LtRAIL -- **AUDIO LINKS** MinnesotaBuilder Apr 2013 #21
Example- Davis & Emmer on ENVIROMENTALISTS ("warmists") -- **AUDIO LINKS** MinnesotaBuilder Apr 2013 #22
Example- Davis & Emmer on EDUCATORS -- **AUDIO LINKS** MinnesotaBuilder Apr 2013 #23

question everything

(47,271 posts)
3. The parent company of the radio station is Clear Channel
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 02:04 PM
Apr 2013

Does this mean anything?

Maybe, if more will object he will be canned.

The sad reality is that radio and newspapers and TV stations just love controversy if it brings more listeners/viewers.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
9. Funny how these guys never get fired
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 03:10 PM
Apr 2013

You can bet if he made some insensitive comments while being liberal, his ass would be gone.

MinnesotaBuilder

(13 posts)
15. Udon't realize how close He is to feeling consequences
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 07:29 AM
Apr 2013

This story has been picked up by Trib, MSNBC, ABCnew, RawStory, HuffPo, AddictingInfo, TYT, MinnPost, CityPages, Trib, MPR, the DailyMail (UK), DailyKOS & hundreds more outlets.

Many have heard that Atomic Data publicly dumped 'em
- they sent press releases Everywhere

I have heard adverts with both co-hosts redone without Davis

And, a group of advertisers with a "show within the show" - Today's Business Radio suspended their paid for vignettes
see --
http://www.todaysbusinessradio.com/podcasts/all-of-todays-business-radio-on-air-vignettes-have-been-temporarily-suspended

This station would lose more advertisers if Democrats were more passionate (ie going beyond commenting on Davis's Facebook)
Passive.
Example: I communicated with a Community Organizer (for real) & provided audio of Davis&Emmer ranting for half a show about how every program she was involved in was BS. Very vile. I suggested she inform her people & have 'em call advertisers about that rant and the Sandy Hook rant.
Her comment: "Wow, I hope nobody takes that show seriously."
That's it. No anger. No instinct to play offense. Even though D&E play offense every morning on a #1 rated drive-time show.

If you want to make a difference go here:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/23/1204288/-Action-Alert-Radio-Host-wants-to-tell-gun-victims-to-Go-to-Hell

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
4. You are advocating .....
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 02:29 PM
Apr 2013

... violence? Oh my, isn't that a TOS violation?

Don't threaten anyone (including yourself).

Do not post anything which could be construed as a threat toward any person, on DU or elsewhere. /[div]
 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
7. There have been many, many threads here on DU .....
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 02:54 PM
Apr 2013

.... where the words "I'd love to see ..." (some form of violence) has been fully considered a threat and threads hidden under TOS. If the thread involved the POTUS, it was deemed worthy of notice to the Secret Service.

Yes, I have a dictionary, but here on DU, words many times mean what one (or maybe a majority) want them to mean. People have different perceptions of "threat." Just like many here have different definitions of terrorism or WMD. Sorry.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
11. Who said anything about shooting someone?
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 04:29 PM
Apr 2013

You said "... tear that asshole limb from limb."

That's kinda, like, I think, violence?

MinnesotaBuilder

(13 posts)
16. One helped with his LetterToEditor (story was dying) - Time to stepUp-pressure advertisers
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 07:56 AM
Apr 2013

That was alot better than an old fashioned azz kicking.

This story had been published in the United Kingdom, but our 2 big local papers had not put 1 word of it in their papers.
Ignored it for days, wouldn't even print local's letters to the editor. But, he forced their hand - they had to do this little article next day.

The guy from Newtown made a big, big difference. He should be thanked for stepping up.

In his letter he pretty much suggested he wanted to be thanked by having locals pressure the advertisers & station.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
6. “....Did not mean to criticize the families of the victims...."
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 02:51 PM
Apr 2013

Ha!

Liar, liar pants on fire. That is EXACTLY what he meant to do.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
10. Bob Davis
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 03:56 PM
Apr 2013

The show is called Davis and Emmer, both republicans, Emmer was GOP candidate for governer. Big time Michelle Bachmann supporters.
http://www.twincitiesnewstalk.com/pages/davisandemmer.html

Email Bob: bob@twincitiesnewstalk.com
Email Tom: tom@twincitiesnewstalk.com
Station contact:
http://www.twincitiesnewstalk.com/pages/contactus.html

MinnesotaBuilder

(13 posts)
13. KEY INACCURACY - when did he apologize (&did he)
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 07:07 AM
Apr 2013

The author of the Tribune article was communicating with the radio station's office.

The author reported Davis said "I'm sorry" on "4T days" after his non-apology (4/15) and 7 days after telling the parents to go to Hell.(4/12)

Supposed apology came the morning after an advertiser publicly refuted the show. (4/18)

BUT, I have been monitoring this show - NEVER HEARD ANY APOLOGY - ever.

The radio station has audio recordings of the show --- no record of an apology.
see.
http://www.twincitiesnewstalk.com/cc-common/podcast/single_page.html?more_page=1&podcast=davisandemmer&selected_podcast=davis__emmer_419_-_8am_0_1366368984.mp3

This guy is scum. He truly believes in what he says (I listen) and he goes on angry rants all the time.
The 4/12 rant is not atypical. His Ayn Rand value system is always on display but really comes through in the angry rants.

MinnesotaBuilder

(13 posts)
18. Here is How -partial ****LIST OF ADVERTISERS
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 08:19 AM
Apr 2013

from .....http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/23/1204288/-Action-Alert-Radio-Host-wants-to-tell-gun-victims-to-Go-to-Hell

This is their advertising directory, but it's blank at the moment:
http://www.twincitiesnewstalk.com/...

Don't let cowards like this get away with such craven statements. Telling people who just lost family to gun shootings that he'd like them to "Go to hell" is NEVER called for. You can't censor him, but you can complain, raise hell and hit their pocketbooks.

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malaise

(267,824 posts)
20. You know people didn't just lose their young children
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 08:24 AM
Apr 2013

spouses, siblings, parents, friends etc. They lost them all days before a major family holiday - the happiest time of the year for children.

Fuck all of the fucking gun goons!!!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. Just another illustration of how selfish and cold hearted
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 08:21 AM
Apr 2013

conservatives are. Yet if it happened to him, he'd be singing another tune.

MinnesotaBuilder

(13 posts)
21. Example- Davis & Emmer on ARTISTS & LtRAIL -- **AUDIO LINKS**
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 08:32 AM
Apr 2013

The Davis & Emmer Show has hundreds of shows documented online in hourly increments.

THE LIGHT RAIL & ARTISTS

SW Corridor would create “a dystopia of crime, squalor, and disease.”
DAVIS, Blogged 10/21 “….proponents of light-rail for the SW Corridor are "building a dystopia of crime, squalor, and disease." (because the suburbs need to be separated from the inner city rabble??) https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151267135315465&set=vb.134256654140&type=3&theater

Central Corridor will create “a dystopia of crime, squalor, and disease.”
DAVIS & EMMER 10/31(7amHour) Beginning about 20:20 http://www.twincitiesnewstalk.com/player/?station=KTCN-AM&program_name=podcast&program_id=davisandemmer.xml&mid=22584902

“Just like Cuba or the Soviet Union”……”Over a billion dollars spent to kill businesses along the route so that they can spread crime, disease, and squalor and delay traffic and create problems for the next 100years” along that stupid waste of money and time known as the light rail project.”

tip of iceberg – they hate 'da trains
DAVIS & EMMER 10/31(7amHour) Complaining about the “artists celebration” (see below)

Beginning about 20:20 http://www.twincitiesnewstalk.com/player/?station=KTCN-AM&program_name=podcast&program_id=davisandemmer.xml&mid=22584902

“I have a message you artists: You are slaves. You are not artists. You are slaves to the public trough. If you were really artists you would not be taking their money. You are worthless propagandists. You are painting propaganda pictures for the fascists. That’s what you are doing. “

MinnesotaBuilder

(13 posts)
22. Example- Davis & Emmer on ENVIROMENTALISTS ("warmists") -- **AUDIO LINKS**
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 08:41 AM
Apr 2013

The Davis & Emmer Show has hundreds of shows documented online in hourly increments.
tip of iceberg but this is a taste......

DAVIS AND EMMER 4/1 (7amHour) @7:06 environmentalists –“warmists” climate change not real

http://www.twincitiesnewstalk.com/player/?station=KTCN-AM&program_name=podcast&program_id=davisandemmer.xml&mid=23042776

“They will renew their calls for tyranny, they’re now becoming hysterical. Ah, I read stuff this weekend of these people saying ‘this is what has to happen’, …..’we have to have a dictatorship to have these things happen’”
…..”The calls for this kind of tyranny and dictatorship to solve a problem that doesn’t exist will become greater and greater.”

BONUS same link @ 20:10 .......socialists are tying suburbs (1960’s time capsules) into the inner city.....walkable...bike-friendly......subtle annexation......Edina becoming Mpls-south.
Ties into assertion that light rail brings “dystopia of crime, squalor, and disease” to the suburbs (? by allowing inner city rabble to visit?).

MinnesotaBuilder

(13 posts)
23. Example- Davis & Emmer on EDUCATORS -- **AUDIO LINKS**
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 08:52 AM
Apr 2013

The Davis & Emmer Show has hundreds of shows documented online in hourly increments.
This is a long record of the crazy and the mean that their listeners apparently enjoy.

DAVIS&EMMER 2/20 (7amHour)

http://www.twincitiesnewstalk.com/player/?station=KTCN-AM&program_name=podcast&program_id=davisandemmer.xml&mid=22899382

17:48, Story (their version)
19:23 DAVIS, “They are too busy teaching diversity and the differences between people rather than the basics about American history. That’s the problem. And, you can’t teach American history anymore in a government school because everyone thinks their rights are being violated because all they teach in school anymore is civil rights. .. “That’s all they want to teach, environment and civil rights.” …”it’s just like the journalists teaching their truth. That’s what these teachers are doing. The whole curriculum, and their whole approach is to teach their truth which is civil rights and environmentalism. And, this is why I say we need to vouch-out, tax-credit-out, and basically shut down the government schools. Because it is a disaster. And, they are prisons

21:50 DAVIS, “Here’s how you fix it. Number 1: we need right-to-work laws in this state. We need to get rid of the teacher’s unions. Conservative groups who have money need to spend money to go to these school boards and to teach these school boards how to take strikes and how to get rid of unions in the schools. The unions are running the schools. You’re not running them. You’re paying to have them run, but the unions are running the schools.”

23:50 DAVIS (on hs graduates), “ They have to spend money to go to some kind of trade school, so they learn some kind of skill, and they still can’t spell, and they have no context, they don’t know any history, and so they have to begin this lifetime process of educating themselves.” EMMER, “ Bob, they’re passive, they’re obedient, they are docile, ah, they are ready to be under the thumb of the government that they serve.”

25:14 DAVIS, “And again, you don’t have any control of the curriculum in these schools. The union controls the curriculum. Your’ve got union employees watching union employees. They’ve go to go. You’ve got to put these schools out of business before it’s ever going to get fixed. “…………CALLER, “..propaganda gulags.”………Davis, “….your kid’s mind will be stolen.”

DAVIS &EMMER Blogged.....Friday, April 12, 2013
http://www.twincitiesnewstalk.com/pages/davisandemmer.html?article=11180674
If You Send Your Children To Public School, Are They Still Your Children?

New standards make school lunches more healthy.......D&E suggest kids “dump the food on the floor”
DAVIS & EMMER 11/5 (7amHour) 07:25 http://www.twincitiesnewstalk.com/player/?station=KTCN-AM&program_name=podcast&program_id=davisandemmer.xml&mid=22598257

EMMER, “Here’s the interesting thing is we have completely changed this over the last couple of hundred years so that now you know what the people are? Domestic livestock.” DAVIS, “You are born a slave in America, and the school system proves it.” …….”

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