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cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 12:50 PM Apr 2013

Medical Repatriation: A hospital's act of deporting unconscious illegal immigrants...

So Iowa Methodist Medical Center in Des Moines took matters into its own hands: After consulting with the patients' families, it quietly loaded the two comatose men onto a private jet that flew them back to Mexico, effectively deporting them without consulting any court or federal agency.

When the men awoke, they were more than 1,800 miles away in a hospital in Veracruz, on the Mexican Gulf Coast.

Hundreds of immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally have taken similar journeys through a little-known removal system run not by the federal government trying to enforce laws but by hospitals seeking to curb high costs. A recent report compiled by immigrant advocacy groups made a rare attempt to determine how many people are sent home, concluding that at least 600 immigrants were removed over a five-year period, though there were likely many more.

In interviews with immigrants, their families, attorneys and advocates, The Associated Press reviewed the obscure process known formally as "medical repatriation," which allows hospitals to put patients on chartered international flights, often while they are still unconscious. Hospitals typically pay for the flights.

"The problem is it's all taking place in this unregulated sort of a black hole ... and there is no tracking," said law professor Lori Nessel, director of the Center for Social Justice at Seton Hall Law School, which offers free legal representation to immigrants.

Now advocates for immigrants are concerned that hospitals could soon begin expanding the practice after full implementation of federal health care reform, which will make deep cuts to the payments hospitals receive for taking care of the uninsured.

http://news.yahoo.com/us-hospitals-send-hundreds-immigrants-134323606.html

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Medical Repatriation: A hospital's act of deporting unconscious illegal immigrants... (Original Post) cynatnite Apr 2013 OP
"After consulting with the patients' families" Interesting. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #1
I think their idea of consulting, was telling them what they were going to do anyway. n/t cynatnite Apr 2013 #2
I'm reluctant to jump to accusatory conclusions. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #3
The problem is that they are doing this with no oversight. cynatnite Apr 2013 #4
First, I'm pro-immigration but that being said Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #7
NO oversight by any federal agency... cynatnite Apr 2013 #8
Nice to see that they're first doing no harm. Orrex Apr 2013 #5
Seems like most of them were injured in the workplace MountainLaurel Apr 2013 #6
This stands out to me Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #9

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
1. "After consulting with the patients' families" Interesting.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 12:52 PM
Apr 2013

I think that is the angle that needs more examination. What was the decision process that led the families to make this decision? If it was a benign choice I'll defer to the family.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
7. First, I'm pro-immigration but that being said
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 01:19 PM
Apr 2013

The patients are here "illegally" so it would be hard for them to file suit, I would imagine. Those who do get to make legal decisions on their behalf are the family and that family opted to have their loved ones returned home. I seriously doubt the hospitals want to be in a position to be obligated to fulfill the what are only the assumed wishes of comatose people who are in violation of Federal law. I just don't see the hospital fighting the family or being obligated to do so.

If your family member was in violation of EU immigration law and you wanted them returned or would you want the hospital to fight you just to keep your family member in a country where they might be later federally prosecuted?

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
8. NO oversight by any federal agency...
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 01:45 PM
Apr 2013

Everything you have said is an assumption. If this had been done with the support of the federal government, we'd have a different story.

Without oversight, you can't be sure if the law was followed. Things like this require federal oversight.

MountainLaurel

(10,271 posts)
6. Seems like most of them were injured in the workplace
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 01:13 PM
Apr 2013

Why aren't their employers coughing up for their care?

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
9. This stands out to me
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 01:49 PM
Apr 2013

"Hundreds of immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally have taken similar journeys through a little-known removal system run not by the federal government trying to enforce laws but by hospitals seeking to curb high costs."

They say it's to curb high costs but it seems it would be more expensive to fly a patient unconscious on a private jet to mexico

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