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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 06:38 PM Apr 2013

Allen West threatens FL college students. Incites others to do so as well.

Just because he lost his election, doesn't mean that Allen West is controlling his mouth.

His wife is on the board of Florida Atlantic University. That university recently made a deal to name its stadium after GEO Group, Inc, a company which runs private prisons. The students successfully protested, and the deal was withdrawn.

The board is also making other decisions about the school which the students find wrong, and they are still protesting.

Allen West Incites Threats Against University Students

Former Congressman Allen West has issued a "warning" to Florida Atlantic University students, writing on his Facebook page that if they continue their meetings and protests of his wife's board of trustees office, "you will face me, the side of me that you do not want to see."

West's wife, Angela Graham-West, was appointed to the FAU board by Gov. Rick Scott's office in May 2011. Since that time the board has faced a number of student protests and media storms, notably the recent dispute over whether their university stadium should grant naming rights to GEO Group, one of the largest operators of for-profit prisons and the focus of several lawsuits and federal investigations.


This is what West wrote on his Facebook page:

I am warning you, end your harassment of my wife Angela. ... This is not a threat, it is a promise that if Angela calls and tells me of one more incident, you will face me, the side of me that you do not want to see. ... How dare you animals attack my wife and her professional reputation. This is your one and only advisory notice.


Read that again, it is a threat against the students.

Even more scary are some of the responses at his Facebook page.

Rod Jerkins: "Col. West, I for one will stand with you."

Jeremy Bliller: "Tell me where to go and who."

Sam Kaufman: "Congressman: I'm a combat vet with a lot of time on my hands. You need to put a team together, you let me know!"

Ron Hubers: "I have your 'six' if you need it, Sir!"

Rodney Fowler: "I think a Glock 9MM should get the job done."

Eddie Spraggs: "Lock and LOAD Colonel!!"


Here is more background on the GEO protests.

Florida Atlantic University Students Protest GEO Group Name Attached To Stadium

The public university announced last week that it had struck a deal to name its football stadium after GEO Group, Inc., one of the largest operators of for-profit prisons in the U.S. and a major donor to the Florida Republican Party. In exchange, FAU will receive $6 million from the company over 12 years.

..."The board of trustees should have done due diligence on GEO before they signed that agreement," Gonzalo Vizcardo, a student protest leader, told the Palm Beach Post. "What (Saunders) said about GEO being 'a wonderful company' was outrageous."

One of the GEO Group's facilities, an immigration detention center known as the Broward Transitional Center in Pompano Beach, Fla., has been the subject of scrutiny for alleged human rights abuses.

At the Walnut Grove Youth Correctional Facility, another GEO Group property in Mississippi, a report issued by the Civil Rights Division of the U.S. Department of Justice found that the institution was "deliberately indifferent to staff sexual misconduct and inappropriate behavior with youth. The sexual misconduct we found was among the worst that we have seen in any facility anywhere in the nation."




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Allen West threatens FL college students. Incites others to do so as well. (Original Post) madfloridian Apr 2013 OP
Damn. This guy needs to have a visit from the police, and a psychiatric evaluation. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #1
Torture affects both the torturer and the victim. Downwinder Apr 2013 #6
^^^^^^!!!!!!!!! Squinch Apr 2013 #8
So do the assholes who offered to cover his six with their glocks............. TheDebbieDee Apr 2013 #37
DUers be aware of a new movement across the US against "mass incarseration: the new Jim Crow." kelliekat44 Apr 2013 #50
So Allen West thinks he can get away with murder Ilsa Apr 2013 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Niceguy1 Apr 2013 #51
This Response To West On FacebooK The Great Escape Apr 2013 #3
It wouldn't surprise me if West wrote that himself. He is losing touch with reality. randome Apr 2013 #5
either way, it's pretty scary! bluemarkers Apr 2013 #22
I would't be scared of this loon. He's just bullying Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #59
Hey Al! Your wife is not a very good person Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #4
I wish I hadn't read this olddots Apr 2013 #7
That's an insult to tape worms LeftInTX Apr 2013 #15
When your opponents are destroying themselves, encourage them... Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #9
Allen "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry!" West LongTomH Apr 2013 #10
All sides seen justhanginon Apr 2013 #11
It is time to get this lunatic and his wife out of public life! Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #12
Yeah, that First Amendment sure sucks, doesn't it, West? Hong Kong Cavalier Apr 2013 #13
Wait, there's a side of Allen West I want to see? n/t Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #14
There is some confusion about whether he is talking about his face or his ass. Hissyspit Apr 2013 #26
We will have to check his AssBook page to be sure... blackspade Apr 2013 #43
LOL dmr Apr 2013 #49
DUzy!!! rhiannon55 Apr 2013 #56
Thanks! blackspade Apr 2013 #66
You know you are losing your grip on reality ThoughtCriminal Apr 2013 #16
worthless mtasselin Apr 2013 #17
hey allen! fuck you. you have no authority over anyone. crawl back in your ignorant hole. spanone Apr 2013 #18
His facebook page is always a delightful blend of ignorance, idiocy, and extremism Gore1FL Apr 2013 #19
Seems that way. madfloridian Apr 2013 #45
Aren't internet "tough guys" a hoot? paleotn Apr 2013 #20
If the wife can't control her husband's action then maybe they should let his wife go. southernyankeebelle Apr 2013 #21
And what side of you will we see Alan? WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2013 #23
I'll bet the FAU students are trembling in their-- sandals.. pangaia Apr 2013 #24
FUCK YOU ALLEN WEST 47of74 Apr 2013 #25
Isn't this "terroristic threatening"? KauaiK Apr 2013 #27
His facebook page disappeared? madfloridian Apr 2013 #28
No, it looks like that post has been removed though. His page is still there... stevenleser Apr 2013 #29
What could you expect? It's hard to maintain the tough-guy talk when... JHB Apr 2013 #53
A banana republic adieu Apr 2013 #30
First the Army fired him, then the voters fired him tularetom Apr 2013 #31
West get introspective? Nope! demwing Apr 2013 #68
GO FAU Students tell them where they can stick their 6 million. West, you're an idiot. YOHABLO Apr 2013 #32
PLEASE! Go ahead West! Nothing would be better than you behind bars. proud2BlibKansan Apr 2013 #33
Would be nice to have a permanent restraining order against him LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #34
its the right thing to do maindawg Apr 2013 #35
Someone needs to ask Alan West if he's stopped beating his wife yet. marble falls Apr 2013 #36
Ot if she's stopped beating him nt broadcaster75201 Apr 2013 #39
or if he stopped beating himself? / nt demwing Apr 2013 #69
Just another bedwetting, TeaBagging pussy broadcaster75201 Apr 2013 #38
now if we could just work in a capital gains tax cut arely staircase Apr 2013 #40
Sun Sentinel calls West out on his post on FB madfloridian Apr 2013 #41
The Grio writes interesting stuff about West's wife. madfloridian Apr 2013 #42
How is it remotely stalking to attend a trustees meeting open to the public? n/t tammywammy Apr 2013 #44
His tone implies physical violence, possibly ecstatic Apr 2013 #46
Yes, it does imply physical violence. madfloridian Apr 2013 #47
What's the voter sentiment Jack Sprat Apr 2013 #48
Here are some polling numbers for Scott, not very good. madfloridian Apr 2013 #57
I would so love to slap him into next week SummerSnow Apr 2013 #52
I could feel the hand cannon going off next to my ear reading that Capt. Obvious Apr 2013 #54
I guess FAU will have to send out "the troops" Botany Apr 2013 #55
....... madfloridian Apr 2013 #58
West's statement is his usual bluster, and not a threat. Orsino Apr 2013 #60
What about those who hero-worship his blustery personality? madfloridian Apr 2013 #63
Yeah. "Who will rid me of this turbulent priest?" n/t Orsino Apr 2013 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author gaspee Apr 2013 #61
I would have been a lot happier if the Marines (? I think) truebluegreen Apr 2013 #62
what is it about facebook that brings out the stupid in people? Javaman Apr 2013 #65
West and his wife should be told to leave. EC Apr 2013 #67
So West Calls Students "Animals" DallasNE Apr 2013 #70
West calles the students "animals"? Sheepshank Apr 2013 #71
 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
37. So do the assholes who offered to cover his six with their glocks.............
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 09:23 PM
Apr 2013

Obviously, these are vets without jobs or other gainful means to spend their time.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
50. DUers be aware of a new movement across the US against "mass incarseration: the new Jim Crow."
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 04:20 AM
Apr 2013

There have been visits to our social service group by college students who are organizing with a national activist movement addressing the ills of a growing correctional-industrial-complex and the privatization of prisons all around the country. This privatization can only thrive when prisons are full and new one built...hence the proliferation of 3-strike laws, imprisonment for non-violent victimless crimes (smoking reefer, carry small amounts of weed, etc., and in some cases failure to pay traffic fines). The movement is headlined some times as The Criminal Justice System:Mass Incareration, the New Jim Crow" . The students who presented to our group were serious, social activists who are trying to call attention to the disparity in arrests, charging, and imprisonment of blacks and Latinos vs whites for the same or even less severe actions. Some parents are even being imprisoned for truancy of their children...one case where the child stayed home to care for a grandmother while the single mom worked. Some of the stories were heart wrenching. So mention this in this tread for DUers who might want to learn more about what may be motivating the students protest this move by this board.

The prison-industrial-complex (P-I-C) is a growing problem for our nation and a new corporate profit center for some.


Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
2. So Allen West thinks he can get away with murder
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 06:46 PM
Apr 2013

for revenge of his wife's unscrupulous business deals? Why does he believe he can get away with that?

Response to Ilsa (Reply #2)

The Great Escape

(1,235 posts)
3. This Response To West On FacebooK
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 06:50 PM
Apr 2013

Sam Kaufman: "Congressman: I'm a combat vet with a lot of time on my hands. You need to put a team together, you let me know!"

bluemarkers

(536 posts)
22. either way, it's pretty scary!
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 08:11 PM
Apr 2013

I would like to see him challenged, but would hate hate hate for anyone to get injured! \\

Good God the teabaggers are craZy!!

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
59. I would't be scared of this loon. He's just bullying
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 11:46 AM
Apr 2013

because he knows it works on liberals. The students ought to just moon the loudmouth (we started with that back in the 60s).

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
4. Hey Al! Your wife is not a very good person
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 06:53 PM
Apr 2013

come get me, you little turd goblin asshole!

And make sure you got fingers on both triggers...

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
9. When your opponents are destroying themselves, encourage them...
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 07:04 PM
Apr 2013

West just gave these students the encouragement they needed to continue, and once this story gets around you can expect more to join in. I suspect that many of the pro-West posts are trolls urging him on, and some might well be the police offering him some delicious bait. In any case, it's always nice to see someone I detest destroying themselves.

justhanginon

(3,289 posts)
11. All sides seen
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 07:20 PM
Apr 2013

Mr. West the voters of Florida have seen all of your sides and that is the reason you are no longer Congressman West. You are just a civilian like the rest of us except you are also an IDIOT!

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
12. It is time to get this lunatic and his wife out of public life!
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 07:23 PM
Apr 2013

That he is far from mentally sound should be evident to everyone.

Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,572 posts)
13. Yeah, that First Amendment sure sucks, doesn't it, West?
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 07:35 PM
Apr 2013

Such a precious little fascist. Him and his sycophants.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
26. There is some confusion about whether he is talking about his face or his ass.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 08:23 PM
Apr 2013

Because it is so hard to tell the difference. Either way, in general, no, you don't want to see.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
16. You know you are losing your grip on reality
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 07:46 PM
Apr 2013

when you start thinking that the voices in your head and your sock puppets are other people.

mtasselin

(666 posts)
17. worthless
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 07:47 PM
Apr 2013

I, along with millions of other people think you are pretty worthless piece of shit anyways, so you really don't scare anyone. Remember when you go after the next group they won't be tied up like those prisoners were. You are part of the problem, how much money was your wife getting back as kickbacks? Just go away, and take your tough guy friends with you.

spanone

(135,815 posts)
18. hey allen! fuck you. you have no authority over anyone. crawl back in your ignorant hole.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 07:47 PM
Apr 2013

Last edited Mon Apr 22, 2013, 08:36 PM - Edit history (1)

sincerely yours, spanone

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
20. Aren't internet "tough guys" a hoot?
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 08:03 PM
Apr 2013

West and his little minions aren't intimidating anyone. What are you going to do, West? Choot 'em?

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
21. If the wife can't control her husband's action then maybe they should let his wife go.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 08:10 PM
Apr 2013

She is becoming a distraction for the school.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
53. What could you expect? It's hard to maintain the tough-guy talk when...
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:03 AM
Apr 2013

...you have to add "on advice of my lawyer, I have to admit this is all toothless bluster, and have no intention of taking any action against students exercising their legal rights under the constitution I (at one time) swore to protect."

Simpler to simply slink off and delete it.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
31. First the Army fired him, then the voters fired him
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 08:51 PM
Apr 2013

Now he's gonna get his wife fired as well. She'll probably wind up firing him too.

He's should probably take a look in the mirror if he wants to see where all his problems are coming from because he seems to be a thoroughly dislikable, unhappy and miserable human being.

LiberalFighter

(50,843 posts)
34. Would be nice to have a permanent restraining order against him
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 09:08 PM
Apr 2013

from stepping foot on the grounds of the university.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
35. its the right thing to do
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 09:15 PM
Apr 2013

if you are a bigot asshole. Be proud of who you are. Have some self esteem, and wear your hate on your shirtsleeve. We salute you. you are an asshole and that is who you are. thats great.
Post your hate on the internets , like the very brave and idiotic, Eddie Spaggs.
Makes it easier for the rest of us .

broadcaster75201

(387 posts)
38. Just another bedwetting, TeaBagging pussy
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 09:23 PM
Apr 2013

Let the little coward bring it. I'm sure the students would "handle" it just fine.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
40. now if we could just work in a capital gains tax cut
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 09:36 PM
Apr 2013

this is a car crash at one of the many right wing intersections of interest. this one has freakish ideology, graft/privatization, brutality/sexual humiliation, nepotism and violent craziness all wrapped up in perfect example of what is wrong with this country and republicans in particular .

freakish ideology: anything to do with Allen West

graft/privatization: one of the largest operators of for-profit prisons in the U.S. and a major donor to the Florida Republican Party.

brutality/sexual humiliation: "deliberately indifferent to staff sexual misconduct and inappropriate behavior with youth. The sexual misconduct we found was among the worst that we have seen in any facility anywhere in the nation."

nepotism: West's wife, Angela Graham-West, was appointed to the FAU board by Gov. Rick Scott's office in May 2011

violent craziness: "the side of me that you do not want to see"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shawna-vercher/allen-west-incites-threats-against-university-students_b_3111449.html

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
41. Sun Sentinel calls West out on his post on FB
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 09:57 PM
Apr 2013
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opinion/editorials/sfl-allen-west-student-threats-20130422,0,6275248.story

Allen West -- as a politician, professional and as an adult -- should know better. No one of his stature should be involved in threatening anyone, let alone college students.

But, as always, West is full of surprises and himself. And he is also now on the wrong-end of a complaint filed by a Florida Atlantic University student claiming that West used Facebook to threaten any student daring enough to criticize, or even contact, his wife, Angela Graham-West, over the flap involving FAU, the GEO Group and the naming rights of the university’s stadium.

....But West, according to media reports, decided to dive into the fray and re-open the wounds after his wife (an FAU board trustee) became the target of students who apparently tried to wage civil discourse by contacting her at Board of Trustee meetings and sending letters to her workplace. West deemed this harassment and used social media to declare “this is not a threat” but that if the students continued on their path they would “face me, the side of me you do not want to see.” His final words: This is your one and only advisory notice.

Notice to college kids: You are students. You are learning. You are spreading your wings. And by using veiled language and threats, West taught you a nasty but important lesson: Not all adults are grown up enough to engage in a thoughtful, meaningful exchange of ideas. And bullying doesn’t stop after school.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
42. The Grio writes interesting stuff about West's wife.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 10:01 PM
Apr 2013
http://thegrio.com/2013/04/22/allen-west-and-wife-wade-into-embarrassing-fight-with-students-on-facebook/


While she remains comfortable outside of the spotlight, Graham-West isn’t shy about expressing her opinions. In a February blog post entitled, “File This Under Conservatives Uninvited,” she bemoans Fordham University for barring conservative Ann Coulter from speaking at the school while extending a warm greeting to Peter Singer, a well-known animal rights activist she says had promoted the extinction of the human race to benefit the planet.

She didn’t mince any words either during the 2012 congressional campaign in which West was defeated by political newcomer Democrat Patrick Murphy. Commenting on her husband’s Allen West Republic blog, she took an NAACP spokesman to task for failing to criticize a Murphy campaign ad she said depicted her husband in a stereotypical light.

An academic embarrassment

The NAACP official denied seeing anything wrong with the spot, which only prompted Graham-West to quote Booker T. Washington in describing how irrelevant the civil rights organization had become.

“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs and the hardships of the Negro race before the public,” she wrote, quoting the famed black educator who founded Tuskegee Institute. “Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs – partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays.”


Wow to that last paragraph.

ecstatic

(32,677 posts)
46. His tone implies physical violence, possibly
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 11:33 PM
Apr 2013

with a gun?? Clearly that's the message the wannabe soldiers got as well, based on their offers of weapons. Or does he plan to sue? He sounds extremely unhinged but it's hard to imagine that a former congressman would really be on the verge of shooting people? Wow!

 

Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)
48. What's the voter sentiment
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 01:08 AM
Apr 2013

towards Gov Scott currently? I am hoping that his unpopularity can actually prove to work against his party in 14.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
55. I guess FAU will have to send out "the troops"
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:39 AM
Apr 2013


Allen is going further down the road to crazy town .... the students have their 1st amendment
rights to say what they want ..... you know that good constitution that the conservatives love
to praise.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
60. West's statement is his usual bluster, and not a threat.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 11:49 AM
Apr 2013

Not that I believe there's a side of him any more disgusting than what he's already flaunted.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
63. What about those who hero-worship his blustery personality?
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 03:02 PM
Apr 2013

Some of them could easily become threats. West's danger lies in his influence over those who could become dangers.

Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Javaman

(62,510 posts)
65. what is it about facebook that brings out the stupid in people?
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 03:31 PM
Apr 2013

it appears as if pretty much anything west says is pretty stupid to begin with, but this statement on facebook, threatening people, well, it seems as if he wanted to out do himself.

he's a sad little man.

EC

(12,287 posts)
67. West and his wife should be told to leave.
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 06:03 PM
Apr 2013

This is a threat and it's obvious that West thinks he's better than the students. They are just so much vermin to be wiped from the earth according to him. They are where they belong, doing what they should be doing...he's not.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
70. So West Calls Students "Animals"
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 06:37 PM
Apr 2013

Last edited Tue Apr 23, 2013, 10:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Now that is a hoot. The guy is mentally disturbed.

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