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for those who want to see how the police did their house to house search (Original Post) littlewolf Apr 2013 OP
Where's the video of them kicking in doors, grabbing their guns, and carrying people to FEMA camps? NightWatcher Apr 2013 #1
+1000 DainBramaged Apr 2013 #2
The gouge is all over the map on this ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #3
What's that phrase mean 'the gouge' is all over the map? Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #11
American military slang ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #13
This is some scary shit trixie Apr 2013 #4
So.....now they're taking us out of our own homes, AT GUNPOINT Th1onein Apr 2013 #5
+1000 forestpath Apr 2013 #8
This is not ok. zeeland Apr 2013 #6
Absolutely it is NOT okay, under any circumstances. Th1onein Apr 2013 #7
I agree this is no way to treat people under suspicion of nothing. kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #9
One wonders, what if they hadn't opened the door? reformist2 Apr 2013 #10
This seems unacceptable as it's presented... octothorpe Apr 2013 #12
Good question. Why are there not more zeeland Apr 2013 #16
Seeing this again for the umpteenth time treestar Apr 2013 #14
And was all voluntary. Look at those happy volunteers - Dash87 Apr 2013 #15

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
1. Where's the video of them kicking in doors, grabbing their guns, and carrying people to FEMA camps?
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 02:30 PM
Apr 2013

I swear, one of those cops was really a lizard person with a crystal skull. I also saw his mason's ring next to his illuminati decoder ring.


Oh, and I bet he breads his chicken with corn flakes and breast feeds at Olive Garden.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
3. The gouge is all over the map on this
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 02:51 PM
Apr 2013

I have read that it was voluntary, Nutmeg Yankee has a friend whose home was searched that said it was not.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2732737 and subsequent posts in that thread are useful

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022733235 is about a different local report

I really think this may be the right answer: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2732771

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
13. American military slang
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 08:49 PM
Apr 2013

I had to look up its origin. Its from the military though I heard it in many places in the Federal Gov

So in this context means in information or data. Good gouge would be good data, inside gouge would be inside information

Translation: The available information on this is contradictory and confusing

trixie

(867 posts)
4. This is some scary shit
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 03:48 PM
Apr 2013

Wow! The people of Boston were brutalized by the bombers and then by the police.

On another note: I love those old houses.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
5. So.....now they're taking us out of our own homes, AT GUNPOINT
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:08 PM
Apr 2013

with our arms raised above our heads. And, then, searching us.

No. No, no, no, I'm sorry, but this is UNACCEPTABLE in America.

Uh uh. This is the very definition of giving up freedom for security. There is NO JUSTIFICATION for this, terrorist or no terrorist.

zeeland

(247 posts)
6. This is not ok.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:39 PM
Apr 2013

The person that came to the door was immediately out the door, hands above head.
There was no discussion or time explaining their intentions.

They did it. They used the tragedy to determine just how far they could go before
people objected to the invasion of privacy. The news media is broadcasting one
Hero worship story after another. If anyone objected we will never hear about it
from them.

It's revolting to see this happen in this country. Next time this will be used for
a far less appropriate reason and there's nothing you can say about it. Little
Girls are handing cookies out to cops in Boston today. What a pretty picture.
Now just move along.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
7. Absolutely it is NOT okay, under any circumstances.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 07:01 PM
Apr 2013

I saw one video on Youtube, where they were pointing a
f*&%ing ASSAULT rifle at a man with a baby in his arms! There is no excuse for this type of behavior. Terrorist, or no terrorist.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
9. I agree this is no way to treat people under suspicion of nothing.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 07:17 PM
Apr 2013

If the police had cause to believe the suspect was at this specific address, then that would be one thing. Just "searching and clearing" whole areas? No. Rousting people out of their homes at gunpoint, forcing them at gunpoint to keep their hands in the air even after they've been passed from one officer to another, forcing them at gunpoint to run, repeatedly frisking them even after they've passed from one point to another? No. This is not OK.

If i see police activity like this across the street at my neighbors' I am certainly not going to believe that there is any option to decline police entry - any option that won't mean gun barrels pressed to my face, pressure holds, and kicks administered to the groin "Stop resisting (KICK) Stop resisting, motherfucker! (KICK)". No reasonable person could see this as voluntary compliance situation, with every "request" being delivered in an angry yell punctuated with -NOW!!!! , while multiple officers are pointing military style weapons at you.

If you assure me compliance is voluntary, I'm certainly not going to comply with this shit. Me and mine are headed to the basement and pretend no one is home.

octothorpe

(962 posts)
12. This seems unacceptable as it's presented...
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 07:46 PM
Apr 2013

Last edited Mon Apr 22, 2013, 11:34 PM - Edit history (1)

However, it is the only such video I've seen, so it's hard to say if this was the typical way it was handled. Also, I haven't heard of many reports of people complaining of searches handled in this way (that doesn't mean they don't exist though)

That being said, is there any more information on this search? Did they believe the suspect was actually in the house, as opposed to them doing a more precautionary type searches in others?

zeeland

(247 posts)
16. Good question. Why are there not more
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 10:52 PM
Apr 2013

Videos of houses being searched? So many people, so many cameras, so few
videos. Of course media was kept at a distance and I would imagine from
what the MSM is telling us it would be extremely unpopular to question
authority at this time.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. Seeing this again for the umpteenth time
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 08:51 PM
Apr 2013

Is there anyone who was there who has any explanation? Why are we assuming it was a terrible thing? Do we not hear both or all sides before making judgments? Did the people at the house even complain? Who were they? Was every search like this? Was something different going on there?

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
15. And was all voluntary. Look at those happy volunteers -
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 08:59 PM
Apr 2013

They were so happy, they couldn't resist throwing their hands up in the air! Wahoo!

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