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Here is Harry Reid's DC fax: 202-224-7327
Kindly fax this panel to him:
Here it is, formatted to fill the page.
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Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,920 posts)But can't laugh - it is all too true!
n2doc
(47,953 posts)He knew what he was doing. This way he gets to play both sides. It is his, and the Senate Democrats, favorite game.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)We have a much bigger problem than Harry Reid.
Our Senate Democratic Caucus ELECTED Reid, a conservative senator from a conservative state,
to be The Spokesman and Lead Democrat in the Senate for this exact reason.
Reid gives all to others cover, and Plausible Deniability for the failure of the entire group of Democratic Senators!
He is doing EXACTLY what he was put there to do.
Watch how long the filibuster lasts the next time the Republicans gain the majority in the Senate.
"...but there was nothing we could dooooooo."
yurbud
(39,405 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)or Republican president won't sign.
Something like that happened here in California with single payer health care: it made it through the legislature to the governor's desk TWICE when we had a Republican governor who wouldn't sign it.
As soon as we get a Democratic governor, the bill can't get enough votes to pass.
SunSeeker
(51,522 posts)Shows who is really in charge in the legislature, doesn't it?
bvar22
(39,909 posts)They are willing to bravely support any progressive bill as long as there's no chance it can pass
http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/democrats_34/
One minute, its Jay Rockefeller as the Prime Villain leading the way in protecting Bush surveillance programs and demanding telecom immunity;
the next minute, its Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer joining hands and breaking with their party to ensure Michael Mukaseys confirmation as Attorney General;
then its Big Bad Joe Lieberman single-handedly blocking Medicare expansion; then its Blanche Lincoln and Jim Webb joining with Lindsey Graham to support the de-funding of civilian trials for Terrorists;
and now that they cant blame Lieberman or Ben Nelson any longer on health care (since they dont need 60 votes), Jay Rockefeller voluntarily returns to the Villain Role, stepping up to put an end to the pretend-movement among Senate Democrats to enact the public option via reconciliation.
Basically, this is how things have progressed:
Progressives: We want a public option!
Democrats/WH: We agree with you totally! Unfortunately, while we have 50 votes for it, we just dont have 60, so we cant have it. Gosh darn that filibuster rule.
Progressives: But you can use reconciliation like Bush did so often, and then you only need 50 votes.
Filbuster reform advocates/Obama loyalists: Hey progressives, dont be stupid! Be pragmatic. Its not realistic or Serious to use reconciliation to pass health care reform. None of this their fault. Its the fault of the filibuster. The White House wishes so badly that it could pass all these great progressive bills, but theyre powerless, and they just cant get 60 votes to do it.
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)Eye-opening and incredibly maddening, but makes a lot of sense.
Kabuki theatre...
bvar22
(39,909 posts)but began to verify that it was always Just Enough Democratic Senators joining with Republicans to block ANY progress,
and they usually took turns,
and it was always just enough to ensure that the 1% ALWAYS got their way.
One of the most ubiquitous re-appearing threads on DU is the one posted right an important measure fails,
listing the Democratic Senators who opposed,
and asking WHY did (insert your favorite) vote NO on this issue?
It doesn't make any sense.
He/She can usually be counted on to support these issues.
Oh Well. They have a 96% record of voting with the Party.
If you want to read something even MORE disturbing,
try the following piece.
I was in Arkansas in 2010, working to
[font size=3]replace the DINOs in Democratic Primary elections and give President Obama GOOD PROGRESSIVES to help him pass his agenda[/font]
...and what happened there really opened MY eyes.
Remember, Lincoln had NO CHANCE of beating the Republican in the General Election.
White House support for Anti-LABOR Lincoln in Arkansas Democratic Primary
Ordinarily, when Party leaders support horrible incumbents in primaries, they use the electability excuse: this is a conservative state, the incumbent has the best chance to win, and the progressive challenger is out-of-step with voters. That excuse is clearly unavailable here. As Public Policy Polling explained yesterday, Lincoln has virtually no chance of winning in November against GOP challenger John Boozman. And while it would have also been difficult for Halter to beat Boozman, polls consistently showed that he had a better chance than Lincoln did. Thats unsurprising, given how much better non-Washington candidates are doing in this incumbent-hating climate than long-term Washington insiders. And its rather difficult to claim that Halter is out-of-step with Arkansas given that they elected him their Lt. Governor. Whatever the reasons Washington Democrats had for supporting the deeply unpopular Lincoln, it had nothing whatsoever to do with electability.
What happened in this race also gives the lie to the insufferable excuse weve been hearing for the last 18 months from countless Obama defenders: namely, if the Senate doesnt have 60 votes to pass good legislation, its not Obamas fault because he has no leverage over these conservative Senators. It was always obvious what an absurd joke that claim was; the very idea of The Impotent, Helpless President, presiding over a vast government and party apparatus, was laughable. But now, in light of Arkansas, nobody should ever be willing to utter that again with a straight face. Back when Lincoln was threatening to filibuster health care if it included a public option, the White House could obviously have said to her: if you dont support a public option, not only will we not support your re-election bid, but well support a primary challenger against you. Obamas support for Lincoln did not merely help; it was arguably decisive, as The Washington Post documented today:"
<much more>
http://www.salon.com/2010/06/10/lincoln_6/
ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)Send it to your own senators and ask:
Do Democrats in the Senate repeatedly fail to pass filibuster reform because:
A. You chose a weak, incompetent leader.
B. You agree with Republicans on economic, trade, spending, regulation, and other issues, but you don't want to vote with them because your constituents don't agree and would vote you out, so you hide behind the Republican filibuster.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)"I can't believe I'm paid to be here asking you questions, and I don't want to ask you anything that will get me removed from this room. What's the most inconsequential thing I can ask you that sounds urgent and probing and require one of your prepared talking points in response?"
ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Maybe the White House too.
jonthebru
(1,034 posts)movetoamend.org
anticorruptionact.org
Two very long shots, but among precious few other efforts, our only chance at reclaiming our Democracy.
Clear the distractions, focus in on the organizational setup...
yurbud
(39,405 posts)but it's worth a shot.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)That's just opinion and I will have to do further research.
Skittles
(153,122 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Half of du is not liking box #2. That mirror must be broken.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)NuttyFluffers
(6,811 posts)it's like the year in review for several years now...