How did "the brothers" support themselves.. I am curious about that

[SoCalDem]

The older had a nice Mercedes (but no drivers license apparently)
The younger went to college, and the only reference to finances I have seen is a $2500 scholarship. Supposedly he lived in a dorm..He also had a car.There must also be an apartment somewhere where they assembled these devices, since the wife & her family claim to know nothing about it.

No job is mentioned for the older, but apparently he had a wife & child and was able to take 6 months off to go to Russia. The amount of boxing training he did probably impeded his chances of work too.

Boston area living is NOT cheap.

When did the parents go back to Russia?
Why did they leave the younger one behind?
Who was taking care of him? paying his expenses?
College aged people are technically "adults", but in actuality they are anything but. Most have to have a LOT of financial help. Who paid?

[Warpy]

1. You and a whole lot of other people

because it appears they were living large on very little money. Oh, the flat wasn't much but they were snappy dressers, the younger one boasting about how much his shoes cost.

As for the parents going back to Russia, I imagine part of that was to keep Mama out of jail after she'd been caught shoplifting $1600 worth of stuff from Lord & Taylor.

I have a sneaking suspicion Tamerlan was the one who got their funding. Whether or not he shared the information with his kid brother remains to be seen.

He was stupid enough to run from the police. Let's hope he smartens up enough to realize he's been used and starts to sing like a wee birdie--with his own voice or a mechanical one.

[Politicalboi]

2. Welfare and Obama phones

What else. It's all us moochers need.

That's a good question. Hopefully they will be able to follow the money to find out.

[alsame]

3. I'm curious too. No visible means of

support for either of them.

[Tx4obama]

4. Absolutely no proof, but I think...

... I think they were dealing drugs and were involved in the 2011 unsolved murder of the older brother's best friend.

Here: http://www.businessinsider.com/murder-of-brendan-mess-the-best-friend-of-boston-bombing-suspect-tamerlan-tsarnaev-2013-4

and MORE links here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022721986

[CountAllVotes]

16. I think you may be right

Re: Drugs.

I thought of this AT ONCE when I saw the picture of suspect #2 running away from the crime scene. He appeared emaciated to me and I said that. I said, "He looks like one of these meth heads you see around today, all emaciated and shot to hell."

Then they had a picture of him from the ambulance scene showing his stomach. It was sunken and he he had the appearance of someone that was again emaciated.

Once again I thought drugs, meth.

Then when the car went to get picked up the man running the shop said the guy picking up the Mercedes appeared to be nervous and he thought he was on drugs or something.

Hmmm ...

We'll see I suppose and soon hopefully!

I'm glad I am not the only one that had this thought and I had no knowledge of the case you mention.

Thanks for that!

CountAllVotes

[musette_sf]

23. when I read about the "best friend"

that was my first thought.

[anneboleyn]

31. There are a lot of drug rumors circulating -- might explain all the guns and ammo too

[arendt]

5. I agree w Ur q's, but....

He went to U Mass at Dartmouth (MA), not the Dartmouth in NH.

And, Boston Rindge and Latin is not a "prestige" school. It is the only public high school in the city of Cambridge.

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Don't mean to knock your thread. I have the same Qs.

But, it won't help anyone if the facts get screwed up.

[SoCalDem]

10. Thanks for the heads up..I changed it

I'm not "up" on the east coast prestige schools

[City Lights]

6. I heard the older one was a stay-at-home dad for a time.

Not sure if he and his wife were still living together, as I've heard she lives in RI with her parents. Younger one went to University of Massachusetts - Dartmouth.

I also wonder how they were able to support themselves.

[SharonAnn]

48. Yes, the wife worked 70-80 hrs a wekk and he was a "stay at home dad"! WTF?

[cali]

7. well,

we don't really know what kind of car he drove- though I have heard that the younger brother picked up a 1967 Mercedes from the repair shop.

Dzhokhar did NOT go to Dartmouth. He attended UMass at Darthmouth (MA)

[SoCalDem]

11. Here's the photo of "his car"..does not look like a '67

In the photo essay, called Will Box for Passport Tamerlan stops to answer a phone call while walking from his Mercedes to the martial arts center. He has a long wool scarf wrapped fashionably around his neck and gleaming white leather slip-on shoes and is carrying an Oceanfly dufflebag.

[cali]

12. Just because that picture has a caption saying it's his car doesn't mean it's accurate

[SoCalDem]

14. It's probably as possbily accurate as the reference to the '67

especially since it's in a newspaper article that's been "out there" since long before the recent incident.

ANY car (regardless of the age of it) is an expense for someone who is apparently unemployed/marginally employed.

I am thinking there's some really dirty money involved..I hope the FBI pieces it all together.

[Lex]

8. I too had wondered how long the 19 year had been without a parent around. nt

[reformist2]

9. UMass Dartmouth is not the Ivy League Dartmouth.

[Cleita]

13. I noticed the uncle had a very nice house in Maryland although I know he's not

under scrutiny here. He did mention that his brother, the father, worked very hard as a mechanic to make sure the family had everything they needed. Maybe the father was supporting them. Also, sometimes immigrant communities pull together to support other members of the community particularly women with children who have been widowed or fallen on bad circumstances. I'm not saying they weren't in some kind of illegal underworld type of economy, but that there is a possibility that there are other reasons. Everything should be examined not just what we would like it to be.

[SoCalDem]

19. Is there a Chechen "mafia".. I have heard that the "Russian mafia" has a presence

on the east coast.. .. Was the big brother mixed up in this sort of thing, and as "payoff" for support, the bombing??

[Cleita]

21. Actually, I believe there is something like that in Europe.

The movie "Eastern Promises" is about Russian and Chechnyan mafias in England. Of course, it's fiction so how much is drawn from real life, who knows. But I do think it's best to get at the truth and not make up facts. Right now we really know nothing. When people don't have visible means of support, it tends to make you suspicious.

[CountAllVotes]

20. true

And I heard that said father did not speak English and worked for $10.00 an hr. when he was ABLE to find work.

Where did said father get money for a nice house?

I worked my whole life and never had a home so to speak of until I was darned near 50 years old!

Who knows?

[Cleita]

22. It was the uncle the father's brother who had the nice house, not

the bombers' family.

[CountAllVotes]

25. thanks for the correction

and sorry for the mix-up!

[Tx4obama]

43. What I've heard...

1) I heard the father speak English on TV/video clips.

2) The father when he was in the USA had a car shop and worked on cars.

3) When the oldest brother went to Russia in 2012 for six months he spent one month working with the father remodeling houses/buildings.

4) Mother went back to Russia six months ago - when in USA she gave facials for money in her home.

That's all I got

[LiberalElite]

15. NY Daily News re: the apartment -

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boston-marathon-bombers-lived-squalid-ramshackle-apartment-article-1.1323047

(several photos with text)

[SoCalDem]

17. It looks pretty messy & icky, but it still was not free. n/t

[City Lights]

18. I heard the younger one lived on campus.

Seems there is a lot we don't know about these two.

[hedgehog]

24. Meh - looks like typical college rental.

[CountAllVotes]

26. hehehee

My thought was, "Gee some of the places I paid a lot of money to live in in SF weren't as nice as that!"

[anneboleyn]

34. me too -- the Bay Area is ridiculously expensive

[Cleita]

30. Or two guys living together rental. If you clean it up and give

it a coat of paint, it's probably a nice apartment.

[hedgehog]

38. Wel, the plywood door screams single family house split into several

cheap apartments.

[SoCalDem]

39. They may get a visit from the zoning people after this

Those ramshackle apts are fire hazards

[Cleita]

47. You still could put a proper door in.

I used to fix up rentals that were rundown, but also cheap. It was worth the expense because the rents were usually lower. I did look for stuff in junk yards and yard sales that was usable rather than spend on new.

[Tx4obama]

46. Also - Photo of dorm where bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsamaev lived, below

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/college-friend-of-boston-bombing-suspect-says-they-discussed?utm_source=feedly

-snip-

The pictures flashed onto a television screen being watched by a group of students at Tsarnaev's dorm, Pine Dale Hall, and they were stunned to realize one of the suspects might be Tsarnaev.

"We all thought it looked like him," said Bettencourt, 20, of Gloucester, Massachusetts. "We didn't believe it was him."

The group of students wondered aloud if they should walk downstairs and knock on Tsarnaev's dorm room door.

"What if he had a gun?" Bettencourt said.

A school spokesman declined to say whether at that point on Thursday Tsarnaev was still on campus, about 60 miles south of Boston.

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2013/04/21/us/21reuters-usa-explosions-boston-college.html?hp&_r=0

[Nye Bevan]

27. "FBI hunting 12-strong terrorist “sleeper cell” linked to brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev"

Perhaps this could go some way to answering your question?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/boston-bombers-fbi-hunting-12-strong-1844844#.UXM54Yqm6hA.twitter

[spanone]

28. family has money?

[jakeXT]

29. There seems to be a Turkey angle

Junior said the two were from Russia and used to live in Turkey. He said they belonged to a group of friends from Turkey. He said they paid him in cash and he never knew their names. He knew them only as “the brothers.”

“They drive new cars all the time, like Porsches, Range Rovers, all the time. They change cars all the time,” he said.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=61373

July 2003

Tsarnaev, then 16, is in Turkey in July 2003 for 10 days on a Kyrgyz passport, a senior Turkish official says.

He comes to the United States that month, along with his two sisters, his aunt, Maret Tsarnaeva, told the Toronto Sun.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/21/us/tamerlan-tsarnaev-timeline/?hpt=hp_t2

[anneboleyn]

33. curioser and curioser

[OhioChick]

32. You raise some good questions regarding finances

Louis Vuitton shoes and Burberry pants don't come cheap.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/19/nation/la-nn-na-auto-body-shop-cambridge-bombing-suspect-20130419

I do realize that what I mentioned is a drop in the bucket compared to what you addressed but it does sound like they had money and it was coming from somewhere.

[SoCalDem]

36. and plane tickets for all that travel don't come cheaply either

I know that people who have relatives in far-flung places, often visit, but most people don't have that kinds of money to stay 6 months

[Lady Freedom Returns]

35. What I heard on the evening news was that the car was..

the older brothers girlfriend's, not theirs.

[SoCalDem]

37. That might be the one he beat up, since she was in the boxing write up

She was lucky to figure him out and split..

[Bluenorthwest]

40. She married him, did she not? Or is this before his wife and child?

nt

[SoCalDem]

41. I have read that she was a "former" girlfriend

I sure hope so for her sake..

snip
Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s record also showed that he had been involved in an episode of domestic violence in July 2009. His father, Anzor, said in an interview on Friday in the Russian republic of Dagestan, where he lives, that Tamerlan had an argument with a girlfriend and that he “hit her lightly.”
snip
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the arrest report said he had shoved her to the ground

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/21/us/tamerlan-tsarnaevs-citizenship-held-up-by-homeland-security.html?_r=0

[moondust]

42. Support from the father?

Their father, a lawyer before he emigrated, worked as an auto mechanic in the the United States, while their mother was a licensed cosmetologist.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/19/relatives-marathon-bombing-suspects-worried-that-older-brother-was-corrupting-sweet-younger-sibling/UCYHkiP9nfsjAtMjJPWJJL/story.html

Another source says he "studied law" and worked in a law office before emigrating to the U.S.

I don't know what the father does now in Russia. Maybe in law again?

[smirkymonkey]

44. This just keeps getting stranger and stranger.

I have a feeling we don't know the worst of it yet.

[reformist2]

45. Just so you know, average rent for 2 bedroom in Cambridge is $1600 a month.