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red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 05:46 PM Apr 2013

The Sad, Twisted Saga of Don Siegelman

Before It's News
April 18, 2013
By Tom Degan


In the opening piece of the February 24th edition of CBS's "60 Minutes", Scott Pelly asked the musical question,
"Is Don Siegelman in prison because he's a criminal or because he belonged to the wrong political party in Alabama?"

Kudos to Thom Hartmann.
Were it not for him, I wouldn't even know the tragic and outrageous story of Don Siegelman.
Siegelman was the somewhat moderate former governor of the state of Alabama who is now rotting away in a federal prison in Louisiana.
His crime? Accepting a five-hundred thousand dollar contribution from a businessman named Richard Scrushy for a fund that benefited secondary education in that state.
Scrushy was then reappointed to sit on a state Hospital Board of Directors, a position he has held under three previous governors.
This is the "bribery" deal that sent Siegelman to the federal pen.

In a Republican state like Alabama, Governor Siegelman was a grand embarrassment for the Grand Old Party.
The son-of-a-bitch just wouldn't go away.
The Justice Department of Karl Rove decided to take matters into it's own hands.
If the voters of that state refused to send the governor into obscurity, the Bush mob would do it for them.
They managed to convince a jury of twelve Alabamans of average intelligence, (average for Alabama, that is) that Don Siegelman was guilty of a crime.
He is now four months into a seven year sentence.

Read more:
http://www.beforeitsnews.com/opinion-liberal/2013/04/the-sad-twisted-saga-of-don-siegelman-2459100.html/

To sign his daughter's petition to President Obama to pardon him, plus more info:
http://www.donsiegelman.org/

Video:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101788445/

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The Sad, Twisted Saga of Don Siegelman (Original Post) red dog 1 Apr 2013 OP
DU Rec Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2013 #1
I know most don't think much of Dan Abrams, but he was covering this from the start winterpark Apr 2013 #35
It's astonishing, chervilant Apr 2013 #2
Agree! gateley Apr 2013 #3
Ignored like the Bush war crimes or antiwar protests. nt valerief Apr 2013 #34
Ignored NO lsewpershad Apr 2013 #46
Yet another gross injustice, that Obama COULD correct, but isn't 99th_Monkey Apr 2013 #4
This omission by Obama says more to me than almost anything else he does. Bozvotros Apr 2013 #8
It's common practice for Presidents and Governors to make their xtraxritical Apr 2013 #39
^^^ THIS Capn Sunshine Apr 2013 #42
In my opinion this site is mostly occupied by youngsters with little xtraxritical Apr 2013 #48
Obama has no problem with this. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #12
Then why hasn't he done it. After all he has no Republican filibuster excuse. Sam1 Apr 2013 #45
No, I meant Obama has no problem with Siegelman being in prison. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #47
I honestly thought this would be Obama's first official act Canuckistanian Apr 2013 #17
Another example of Obama's huge double standard MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #19
This is especially infuriating because... bvar22 Apr 2013 #27
Geesh 99th_Monkey Apr 2013 #28
Unbelievable. Granny M Apr 2013 #36
I'm furious at Obama. TOTALLY betrayed. Social Security Chained CPI, Siegelman's loudsue Apr 2013 #41
It's incredibly sad that Obama was the best we could do. Granny M Apr 2013 #49
Precisely. Plus....who in the fucking HELL would have expected him to OFFER chained CPI loudsue Apr 2013 #50
Too many people Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2013 #5
One of the hottest place in hell.... chuckstevens Apr 2013 #6
I agree with all you say about Karl Rove, but it's not Eric Holder who's.. red dog 1 Apr 2013 #51
K&R SunSeeker Apr 2013 #7
Thanks for bringing this back. He needs a compassionate pardon for health reasons, too, IMO. freshwest Apr 2013 #9
K&R n/t proReality Apr 2013 #10
DUer hissyspit has done an excellent job of keeping us posted proud2BlibKansan Apr 2013 #11
trof, too Brother Buzz Apr 2013 #18
I agree red dog 1 Apr 2013 #52
To put "Don Siegelman" onto a continuing google alert annabanana Apr 2013 #13
Was it necessary to insult the intelligence of an entire state to virgogal Apr 2013 #14
This would not happen in the North East. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #16
Or even some other states.... paleotn Apr 2013 #21
Hey, let's don't leave out South Carolina. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #26
Any place this corrupt Republican Party gets control it could happen. The Wielding Truth Apr 2013 #38
From this January post it looked like Biden would try helping DeeDeeNY Apr 2013 #15
Time mtasselin Apr 2013 #20
How about a petition asking why he hasn't been pardoned? SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2013 #22
Is the president afraid The Wizard Apr 2013 #23
Meanwhile Jack Abramoff's favorite bought and paid for politician still walks the streets a free man Major Nikon Apr 2013 #24
The injustice done to Don Siegelman is sickening. lucca18 Apr 2013 #25
BFEE put him behind bars. Octafish Apr 2013 #29
But Obama is doing nothing to pardon him. no_hypocrisy Apr 2013 #31
Dissapointing doesn't come close. Octafish Apr 2013 #32
I believe Pres Barack Obama made a deal with the devil to get the presidency. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #44
Edwin Edwards' "extortion" of Eddie DeBartolo is much more of a joke of a convection. RB TexLa Apr 2013 #30
On story coverage, kudos go to Scott Horton and DU, dKos, et.al. Coyotl Apr 2013 #33
Done. Thanks for the reminder. It's Bush and Rove who should be in jail. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #37
His prosecution was the criminal act. dmr Apr 2013 #40
Pres Obama is too busy trying to negotiate a early release for Jeff Skilling. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #43

winterpark

(168 posts)
35. I know most don't think much of Dan Abrams, but he was covering this from the start
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 10:18 AM
Apr 2013

way back when he was on MSNBC and no one picked up the ball when he left.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
4. Yet another gross injustice, that Obama COULD correct, but isn't
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 06:07 PM
Apr 2013

√ NOT pardoning Don Siegelman <-- On Obama's daily "Not-to-do List"

WTF does Obama have to lose at this point? Let me think... hmm.

Oh wait, that's right. The '12 election was about getting Obama
elected to a 2nd term to do the bidding of corporate America, not
represent the people, or to strengthen democracy, or to get real
justice done through the US court system.

Bozvotros

(785 posts)
8. This omission by Obama says more to me than almost anything else he does.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 06:49 PM
Apr 2013

He never speaks of it. Never thinks of it apparently. But by golly he can give a great speech about how we're all in this together. Everyone except Don Siegelman apparently. He can go pound sand. I don't get it......

Or maybe I do.

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
39. It's common practice for Presidents and Governors to make their
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 01:44 PM
Apr 2013

pardons at the very end of their terms in office. You know Republicans, Freepers, Tbaggers NEVER criticize their party and concentrate all their efforts on getting their people elected to control the branches of government. If we did less "politically correct" moaning and just concentrated on getting real Democrats elected you would have a lot less to moan about, DINOs.

Capn Sunshine

(14,378 posts)
42. ^^^ THIS
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 03:58 PM
Apr 2013

but there's a lot of purists here who don't understand (or refuse to accept) how to accomplish things in DC.

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
48. In my opinion this site is mostly occupied by youngsters with little
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 06:21 PM
Apr 2013

experience and lot's of opinions that they think are politically correct and or cool. I appreciate greatly your reply. I'm getting flamed on another thread about a Paul Krugman article for stating the obvious. I've been a straight ticket Democrat since 1972.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
17. I honestly thought this would be Obama's first official act
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 07:24 PM
Apr 2013

Either pardoning Siegelman or requesting an investigation.

Or if not Obama, then his choice of AG would make the move.

What IS Eric Holder's position on this anyways?

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
27. This is especially infuriating because...
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 10:01 PM
Apr 2013

...the Very First Item on Eric Holders list after being appointed Attorney General was getting corrupt REPUBLICAN Senator Ted Stevens cleared of ALL charges.

The. Very. First. Thing.

...but unjustly imprisoned former Democratic Governor Don Siegelman?
[font size=3]Who? Never Heard of Him.[/font]

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
28. Geesh
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 10:18 PM
Apr 2013

I hadn't heard that, or connected those dots.

Thanks for pointing that out. Shrug indeed.

Granny M

(1,395 posts)
36. Unbelievable.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 11:46 AM
Apr 2013

I didn't realize Holder had done this. I can't understand why Obama won't pardon Siegelman.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
41. I'm furious at Obama. TOTALLY betrayed. Social Security Chained CPI, Siegelman's
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 03:01 PM
Apr 2013

continued imprisonment, bankers continuing to destroy our economy with impunity, the bush crime family getting a free pass, the pipeline for Canadian tar sand oil, more B1 visa support.....

I just feel completely betrayed. For me, it was the chained CPI that finally blew it. No more.

Granny M

(1,395 posts)
49. It's incredibly sad that Obama was the best we could do.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 06:49 PM
Apr 2013

McCain/Palin, and Romney/Ryan would have been unthinkable. But, damn. What would it cost him to pardon Siegelman? Disgusting.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
50. Precisely. Plus....who in the fucking HELL would have expected him to OFFER chained CPI
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 11:10 PM
Apr 2013

for seniors. That is the cruelest, most DISGUSTING way to kill off the elderly. Fucking asshole.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
5. Too many people
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 06:35 PM
Apr 2013

who belong in jail are NOT there. And too many people who are in jail do NOT belong there.

Thom Hartmann, Mike Malloy and Randi Rhodes all did their best to keep this story alive, but MSM just not that into it.

 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
6. One of the hottest place in hell....
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 06:44 PM
Apr 2013

is reserved for those who remain silent during a time when moral courage is needed.

We all know Karl Rove is the spawn of Satan, who will probably have a high ranking position in hell, but I'm calling out Eric Holder and Barack Obama for being complete cowards on this whole affair! Eric Holder is more worried about pot in CO and WA than taking a righteous stand on ANYTHING and President Obama should have pardoned Don Siegelman once he was re-elected.

Are the Democrats afraid they'll lose Alabama in 2016 and alienate the South? Give me a break! Who gives a shit what the Republicans would say if Don Seigelman is freed?

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
51. I agree with all you say about Karl Rove, but it's not Eric Holder who's..
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 04:41 PM
Apr 2013

"more worried about pot on CO and WA" (and many other states as well, including CA)...it's his boss who calls the shots....it's Obama who has broken his campaign promise not to go after medical pot dispensaries, not Holder..and it's Obama who has apparently decided to let Gov. Siegelman rot in prison for a crime he did not commit, not Holder.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
13. To put "Don Siegelman" onto a continuing google alert
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 07:12 PM
Apr 2013

is to see how little regard MSM, or anyone else for that matter, has for some simple justice.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
21. Or even some other states....
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 08:17 PM
Apr 2013

... in the south. Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana are the epicenter of bizzaro land.

mtasselin

(666 posts)
20. Time
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 08:13 PM
Apr 2013

It is about time President Obama did the right thing and pardon Mr. Siegelman, I have signed many petitions asking him to do it. but no. If only he was a member of wall street then maybe he would have a chance. President Obama you have been a disappointment on so many fronts, and to think I voted for you twice.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,108 posts)
22. How about a petition asking why he hasn't been pardoned?
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 08:31 PM
Apr 2013

Is there any word from the "Justice" Dept. about why he is still in prison?

Or what other ways are there to get major attention on this case again?

lucca18

(1,241 posts)
25. The injustice done to Don Siegelman is sickening.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 08:42 PM
Apr 2013

I couldn't believe it when he was sent back to prison!
This is so wrong.


 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
44. I believe Pres Barack Obama made a deal with the devil to get the presidency.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:00 PM
Apr 2013

Part of the deal was not to prosecute the Bush war criminals and another was to let Gov Siegelman rot in prison.
Poppy must have a terrible hate for the governor.

 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
30. Edwin Edwards' "extortion" of Eddie DeBartolo is much more of a joke of a convection.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 10:22 PM
Apr 2013

Including Jordan's admitted jury tampering.
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
33. On story coverage, kudos go to Scott Horton and DU, dKos, et.al.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 11:29 PM
Apr 2013

We were on top of this story. Also, follow the history in Horton's articles.

http://harpers.org/blog/2009/03/siegelman-convictions-upheld/

60 Minutes made the story go national.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
37. Done. Thanks for the reminder. It's Bush and Rove who should be in jail.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 01:06 PM
Apr 2013

And Cheney's kickback scheme with Halliburton should have gotten him into trouble. But no one seems to even notice what he did.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
40. His prosecution was the criminal act.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 01:46 PM
Apr 2013

Unbelievable they let Ted Stevens free, yet ignored Gov. Seigelman.


The Governor should have been cleared a long, long time ago.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
43. Pres Obama is too busy trying to negotiate a early release for Jeff Skilling.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 04:58 PM
Apr 2013

To ignore Don Siegelman is one of my biggest disappointments in Pres Obama. His DU worshipers go on about what a great family man pres Obama is. Gov Siegelman is a great family man also. He deserves justice.

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