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Krugman today with further thoughts on spread sheet scandal... (Original Post) CTyankee Apr 2013 OP
I'm sure Joe, the Scab, Scarborough will be "honorable" and call to apologize to Krugman... hlthe2b Apr 2013 #1
Joe was backtracking on austerity a couple of weeks ago...his past support of the austerity CTyankee Apr 2013 #3
Makes sense. Thanks for posting. Cleita Apr 2013 #2
Here is the message I left for Joe Scar on the MJ website: CTyankee Apr 2013 #5
Man up?!? chervilant Apr 2013 #15
I know. Ever notice his hands? They are soft, pink and very graceful. CTyankee Apr 2013 #20
In the middle of FDR's terms in the WH, he acceded to the Repugs and tried to balance the budget byeya Apr 2013 #7
we're pretty much in the hotbed of liberalism here in the People's Republic of New Haven. CTyankee Apr 2013 #11
I wish I could say that about the place my wife and I retired to...but I cannot. byeya Apr 2013 #13
Oh, I'm sorry. I had such high hopes for NC. What happened down there? CTyankee Apr 2013 #14
a mess G_j Apr 2013 #18
it is downright criminal for the state government to do this to their own people in the CTyankee Apr 2013 #19
Zactlee. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2013 #17
Du rec. Nt xchrom Apr 2013 #4
I'd be extremely embarrassed to publish an error like that. I always check my manuscripts JackN415 Apr 2013 #6
well, as has been indicated, these two economists are somehow in thrall to some very rich CTyankee Apr 2013 #8
Even if the Koch bro gave them a ton of money, if they still had... JackN415 Apr 2013 #10
Shows you how utterly they disregard any semblance of decency in anything they do. CTyankee Apr 2013 #12
See, you are burdened with ethical standards and are upholding the standards of your profession. byeya Apr 2013 #9
He has every right to gloat Ruby the Liberal Apr 2013 #16
"... rewards that came from telling important people what they wanted to hear." Scuba Apr 2013 #21
It is interesting how rarely Republicans ever talk about macroeconomics... reformist2 Apr 2013 #22

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
1. I'm sure Joe, the Scab, Scarborough will be "honorable" and call to apologize to Krugman...
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 03:28 PM
Apr 2013

In fact, he's probably on the phone with him now...













(if you really can't tell)

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
3. Joe was backtracking on austerity a couple of weeks ago...his past support of the austerity
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 03:32 PM
Apr 2013

programs in Ireland and the U.K. went down the Orwellian "memory hole" and he sternly announced "we're not talking about austerity here." Oh, but you WERE, joe, you WERE and we have the videos of you doing it!

Are you making any bets that he'll talk about the scandal on his show Monday?

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
5. Here is the message I left for Joe Scar on the MJ website:
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 03:54 PM
Apr 2013

So, Joe, are you going to be talking about the Reinhart-Rugoff spread sheet scandal on your show tomorrow?

You don't know what I am talking about? Oh, then you should be catching up on your Paul Krugman columns and blogs! The good professor blew the whistle on you and your other austerity hawks, including the insufferable Richard Haass, after a grad student found R&R analysis fatally (and laughably) flawed. Tsk, tsk, what an embarrassment! But the rubes and bobble heads who are toadying up to you (or watching you) won't know and you won't tell them, will you, Joe?

Paul Krugman was right (as he ALWAYS is) and you were wrong, Joe. Now man up and confess it!

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
20. I know. Ever notice his hands? They are soft, pink and very graceful.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 09:00 PM
Apr 2013

He looks like he never hammered a nail or unclogged a sink before...

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
7. In the middle of FDR's terms in the WH, he acceded to the Repugs and tried to balance the budget
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 03:55 PM
Apr 2013

and unemployment went back up and the economy went down. Back to Keynes and the economy was about out of the Depression right before WW2. It was a practical test of the two economic theories, and one won: Keynes, et al; and one lost: Classical economics later reborn as Friedman/Hayak monetarism and supply side nonsense under the catchall Neoliberalismj.

The competing theories have been tested within one administration in one crisis: Shitcago School is, has been, will be, a failure for people in general and the countries in which they live.

So, we are not dealing with people who operate on the basis of good faith, no matter how much we wish they are: Yes, I am addressing the administration and the majority in the Senate. Get to work on behalf of those who supported you 2ce canvassing, working the phones, and doing the PoliSci 101 things it takes to win elections.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
11. we're pretty much in the hotbed of liberalism here in the People's Republic of New Haven.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 04:00 PM
Apr 2013

We're 100% blue with House, Senate, governor, both houses of our state legislature in CT. Repukes here are laughed at with great glee and regularity...

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
13. I wish I could say that about the place my wife and I retired to...but I cannot.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 04:09 PM
Apr 2013

NC is bad and getting worse.

G_j

(40,366 posts)
18. a mess
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 07:29 PM
Apr 2013
http://www.ncpolicywatch.com/2013/04/02/the-wrecking-ball-keeps-pounding/

Here’s a challenge for you. Try to explain what is happening in North Carolina these days to someone who doesn’t follow politics or government and limit yourself to a minute or even two.

You can’t do it. The damage being inflicted on the state by this radical and reactionary General Assembly is too vast and is happening too quickly to even catalogue, much less explain.

Lawmakers, who have only been in session a little over two months, have already refused to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, denying health care to 500,000 low-income adults even though the federal government would pick up the full cost of the expansion for three years and 90 percent of the cost after that.
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CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
19. it is downright criminal for the state government to do this to their own people in the
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 08:57 PM
Apr 2013

name of some insane ideology. Just crazy and evil. A special place in hell for these cretins.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
17. Zactlee.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 07:22 PM
Apr 2013

Supply Side is an enormous failure. One builds an economy from the bottom up, not the top down. People only need to look at the multiplier ratios for unemployment and food stamps (around 1.4 and 1.6 respectively) and compare that to tax cuts (0.6) and realize that top down doesn't stimulate - it has the opposite effect.

 

JackN415

(924 posts)
6. I'd be extremely embarrassed to publish an error like that. I always check my manuscripts
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 03:54 PM
Apr 2013

many times before sending out to publish...

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
8. well, as has been indicated, these two economists are somehow in thrall to some very rich
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 03:57 PM
Apr 2013

people. I doubt if it is even possible at this point to shame them or embarrass them.

 

JackN415

(924 posts)
10. Even if the Koch bro gave them a ton of money, if they still had...
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 04:00 PM
Apr 2013

any academic DNA in them, they would and should still be embarrassed. It's more about honor and image than money.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
12. Shows you how utterly they disregard any semblance of decency in anything they do.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 04:03 PM
Apr 2013

They don't care. They are on a mission to rid this country of SS, Medicare, Medicaid and the unions. They are relentless and have more money than God. They hate people like us.

Thank god we have Paul Krugman!

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
9. See, you are burdened with ethical standards and are upholding the standards of your profession.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 03:58 PM
Apr 2013

The $$$boys don't have that to worry about.

(Good for you and your thoroughness)

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
16. He has every right to gloat
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 07:18 PM
Apr 2013

and I hope he does it on a daily basis. No way was that formula an "oversight". Someone was justifying a world view and it just blew up in their collective face.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
21. "... rewards that came from telling important people what they wanted to hear."
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 06:51 AM
Apr 2013

Bingo! Nailed it!!!

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
22. It is interesting how rarely Republicans ever talk about macroeconomics...
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 07:04 AM
Apr 2013

Add that to the list of academic disciplines they reject, alongside evolutionary biology and climate change!
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