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(135,795 posts)MineralMan
(146,262 posts)It's in Heaven. We spoiled everything by being born in sin, and will never see Heaven unless we believe shit like this. At least that's what the morons who are teaching this extreme young Earth creationism to children are promoting.
This is why I support mandatory basic knowledge testing of all students, whether educated in public, private, or home schools. The ignorance and false information being taught to some of our children is beyond unconscionable.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)I searched the file name and found the link above. This thing has gone viral, but there is not much consensus on veracity.
http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/1crzuz/actual_4th_grade_science_test_from_a_school_in_sc/c9jpve4?context=3
http://everyotherdomainwastaken.wordpress.com/tag/quiz/
?w=630
Anyway, I cannot verify that it is real, but one person on the web claims it is.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)from the bottom up.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)TeamPooka
(24,210 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)Botany
(70,449 posts)Last edited Sun Apr 21, 2013, 01:05 PM - Edit history (1)
that shows when dinos played w/ people
and Adam and Eve were white people and used not only shampoo but conditioner and cream rinse too
edit botany = wight people
niyad
(113,095 posts)white blouse, and the dino had a saddle.
penndragon69
(788 posts)That means they were free of filth and head lice, until that little
Bitch forced Adam to eat of the apple.
(this proves that apple computers are a work of the DEVIL !)
mikeytherat
(6,829 posts)mikey_the_rat
progressoid
(49,952 posts)He's making some Night Moves on her.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)progressoid
(49,952 posts)mikeytherat
(6,829 posts)mikey_the_rat
FreeBC
(403 posts)Where's the proof that test is in that book?
I think it's a fake.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)But I do hope this is fake.
FreeBC
(403 posts)1monster
(11,012 posts)6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Wow...brainwashing has never been so fun! April 21, 2013
By Ramsey
Snarkoleptic
(5,997 posts)Charlie Pierce does a nice job dissecting this BS in "Idiot America: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free"
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I got to ban him, my last turn on MIRT. It was fun.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Along a highway in South Dakota. The artist was having some fun with the owners, putting a cowboy on the dinosaur.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)I think it would make a very funny and entertaining gift to a liberal, as a joke book for their coffee table.
pauliedangerously
(886 posts)Final statement of the first one:
"So, if your fondest wish is to risk ruining your child's life, by all means expose them to this mindless twaddle."
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Free speech... yeah, I know... but my gawd.
One reviewer said he believes that dinosaurs were created during creation... and maybe the dragons in the medieval times were actually dinos?
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)country, this is what passes for a textbook on science. This is what many children are learning as if it were true. This is why home-schooling needs some regulation and testing of students who are being home-schooled.
Teaching children the crap that is represented by this quiz should be a criminal offense, in my opinion. It is planting a seed that will destroy this nation.
October
(3,363 posts)And we don't teach such lessons. My 16-year-old son just did a college-level course on black holes.
Our curriculum is approved yearly by our local district, and they review his work every spring. In addition, he is evaluated by a certified teacher.
Pennsylvania law.
I might add that they are always impressed by the diversity of his education.
He is home schooled because he is an aspiring dancer who travels to NYC every day to train.
We're not all nut jobs.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)demonstrate your care in teaching true stuff to your children, as it would for all home-schoolers who are teaching actual factual information. It would also identify the children who are being fed garbage like this creationism nonsense.
I have nothing whatever against the concept of home-schooling. What I'm opposed to is home-nonschooling. Children need to learn actual facts, not religious mythology. It's essential.
Your situation is certainly not what I'm talking about, and I'm sure you know that.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)I suspect they outnumber the progressives. I know they do here where I live.
mountain grammy
(26,600 posts)the kids are prepared to be nothing but preachers or leaders of white supremist militias.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)So we have very weak regulations for homeschooling and they are rarely enforced.
It's really tragic. Many of these kids eventually end up back in traditional schools and they are woefully behind their peers. At least, that's been my experience.
MattBaggins
(7,897 posts)We are sold the BS stories of the .0000000001% of home school kids who have wealthy parents and make it to the national spelling bee.
When I was young all the home school kids were the ones kicked out of every school in the county. Not bad kids, but horrible parents.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)will be so much easier for progressive's to seize the reins of power. It's a very good thing. Let them shoot themselves in the foot.
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)thought process.
Propagating ignorance helps no one.
MattBaggins
(7,897 posts)They then complain when they can't get hired anywhere decent.
raccoon
(31,105 posts)xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)raccoon
(31,105 posts)xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)It's hard to pick names that's the best I could do on short notice.
October
(3,363 posts)I know we're not the majority, but we are out here. Most of us, though, seem (!) to have kids involved in different activities that don't fit in with the traditional school hours.
keroro gunsou
(2,223 posts)you're the worst kind of nut job... a smart, sane one.
yes, i am complimenting you, the visual medium does not do wonders for a facetious tone of voice
October
(3,363 posts)Thanks, I appreciate the support.
And, that "little red devil" is perfect for the facetious tone!
Cleita
(75,480 posts)scientific fact even though by then it had been proven to be a hoax. Of course, this was right after WWII so the text books were really old. Our teachers though never said it was a hoax and never told us to ignore it. I was in high school before I learned that it wasn't true.
I agree, we need some laws covering this. Teaching kids bogus science will interfere with their futures, if they want to become scientists or even medical doctors. There really needs to be a crack down on this BS. I don't think home schooling should be allowed either unless a parent is a certified teacher or there is a governess hired who is a certified teacher.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)All that is needed is a simple test on what kids know, given sometime in the elementary school age group. If it show that the child is learning patently false information, like the garbage in that test, then the child should be sent to public school and more home-schooling would not be allowed for that child in that situation.
That's all that is needed, but it is needed badly.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)skepticscott
(13,029 posts)blatant falsehoods on any other subject (like drilling them over and over that 3 x 9= 39, or that the world is hollow and aliens are living inside) you'd be justified in calling that child abuse. But when it's religion, calling that child abuse gets you branded a bigot by the brain-dead apologists.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)I'll respond in kind. Such people are complete morons, and are failing to teach their children well or correctly. If it were left up to me, I'd make their children wards of the state and see that they got some semblance of a decent education.
I don't care what someone's religion is or how they worship whatever it is they worship. I do care about their children, though.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)joke done by the Onion.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)MattBaggins
(7,897 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)The title's the same, anyway. It appears to be an an "educational" DVD set:
http://www.christianbook.com/dinosaurs-genesis-the-gospel/pd/00154X
Creepy video at the link.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)complete with the banjo music from Deliverance,
and Pavlovian conditioning for the "lessons".
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)A cute T-Rex holding the Holy Bible.
Teamster Jeff
(1,598 posts)Our homegrown fundie morons are way more of a threat
SylviaD
(721 posts)I feel pity for the children learning this "science", and I feel shame for their parents. But they aren't going to bomb anyone like the extreme Islamist fundies.
MattBaggins
(7,897 posts)MH1
(17,573 posts)Like climate change denial, spreading their ignorance, and preventing women from exercising control over their own reproduction.
Not as dramatic as violent terrorism, but still will cause a lot of suffering.
MountainLaurel
(10,271 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)Of course they are dangerous.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)McVeigh?
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)lpbk2713
(42,744 posts)exboyfil
(17,862 posts)Dinosaurs, Genesis and the Gospel
http://vimeo.com/8917357
JHB
(37,157 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,203 posts)American education in general; but still it's SCARY.
And how will the children brought up like that be able to get into university, get jobs, and generally survive in the modern world?
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)that could only be duplicated in a fundamentalist Muslim community - the Creation Museum located in the middle of the Bible Belt.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Where do you think we get all our batshit crazy elected representatives from?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)such as "Bob Jones University".
As for jobs, basic science and history aren't required for most jobs.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,203 posts)Not the case in the UK: even church schools have to teach the 'national curriculum' in science, which means that you are NOT marked correct if you say that people and dinosaurs lived at the same time!
Though now that we have all the promotion of academies and free schools (British versions of charter schools), I fear that a little of this nonsense may slip through thenet.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)If your religion teaches 1 + 1 =5 and that's how you educate your children, the US government has no business interfering in the free exercise of your religious beliefs.
niyad
(113,095 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)niyad
(113,095 posts)but even the flintstones got a few things right. in one scene, they are at the grand canyon, which is this small little creek. fred looks at it and says something like, "well, it isn't much now, but it'll be a big thing one day."
peace13
(11,076 posts)My niece went to a church school and her spelling words were all Bible related. I wondered if she would ever learn a useful word.
CountAllVotes
(20,867 posts)She is supposedly a teacher and decided she did not like this job after HER PARENTS paid god only knows how many $$$ to send her to college.
I got a note from her recently and yes, it was illiterate as hell. Impressed? NOT!
I did not have such convenience in my life. I was told by my parents, "We don't have money for that "college crap"." So, I did it on my own with no help, working full-time and going to school at night and on the weekends. I am a published writer btw and yep, I did it all by myself.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,966 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)We learned real Science and hardly ever talked about the bible.
caseymoz
(5,763 posts). . . of the Bible. There are Catholic fundamentalists, but it means something different than insisting the Bible is literal.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)and, believe me, it was rigorous and no bs.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)I remember the Jesuits as being fairly liberal.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)often they would have big parties on the quad with trucks with beer taps on them. I went back in 2011 and all that had changed! The course load I took was way serious and all my profs. were Phds at the junior/senior level. I know they still run the best schools in the country, I went back to check!
BTW, it was The Catholic University of America (CUA).
pscot
(21,024 posts)Meshak, Ishak and Abednigo from the fiery furnace and sealed the lions mouth to save Daniel: the Babylonian Captivity. The nuns professed to believe it, but I knew better at age 11.
W T F
(1,146 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)and has been for at least a generation.
I did an undergraduate project some decades ago that involved visiting local private schools, viewing curriculum, and comparing/contrasting with local public school curriculum. I saw a lot of this kind of thing.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)I had one several years ago whose mom shared his work with me. She wanted me to see what he had been doing at home. It was all workbooks filled with busywork. 100 Math problems per page in his Math workbook, 50 Spelling words every week, Reading comprehension exercises involving bible verses that were written in some ancient English language (reminded me of Chaucer). It was pretty bizarre.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)They buy this stuff from private christian publishers, convinced that it offers an adequate education.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,966 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
treestar
(82,383 posts)go out in the world, find out the truth and be pretty pissed about having been taught such drivel.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)themselves like this, encourage it.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)But you can never tell nowadays.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)A moran would not past this test because even they know better.
Johonny
(20,820 posts)How are we ever going to fill our future DA office under Jeb Bush without such scholars?
gristy
(10,667 posts)It looks much more like something someone put together to post on the internets to try to make a point (exactly what the point is, I'm not sure) and to get people riled up (a wild success, apparently).
mbperrin
(7,672 posts)Here's a page from inside another dinosaurs in Eden "textbook"
http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/customer-gallery/A7W339XNKTQ6B
Happens all the time in our area - parents "homeschool" their kids until the kids get bigger and more demanding of time and trouble, then they are dumped back into public school about junior high time. There are no regulations whatsoever about homeschooling in Texas - you sign a paper that says your child is not a dropout, but is being homeschooled, and that's it.
I had one parent in high school years ago who pulled his daughter back out after I did not agree to teach the Holocaust as a hoax.
Just Google around Amazon for a while on Christian homeschooling, and you'll lose that smug attitude you're radiating this morning.
gristy
(10,667 posts)Certainly this is not the only test in the fourth grade, and so the heading is quite odd.
I see there is both a numeric and a letter grade on the test. That seems unusual and redundant.
And do have a nice day! If I appear so smug to you that you must jab me with your opinion to make yourself feel good, I'll take that as a small consolation to your insult.
mbperrin
(7,672 posts)people who want to believe that the earth is 6,000 years old.
I'm not trying to insult you at all. Obviously, you have not met any of these folks, and as a public school teacher in charge of picking up the pieces when they tire of their project, I've seen literally hundreds. These dangerous folks are no myth, nor are they unimportant or uninfluential.
But do feel free to ignore me and others who actually deal with this and just continue to think it's a satire. Did you at least look at Amazon where these things are sold?
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)The numeric and letter grade is the norm where I teach.
judesedit
(4,437 posts)Looks more like 2nd grade work than 4th to me. In Europe the kids in 4th are already learning algebra. Check out "the Dumbing Down of America" on your browser. Click on any or many of the links that are provided. Get educated so you know what's going on in this country.
judesedit
(4,437 posts)Do your research, people
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)This kind of 'education' sure limits a child's potential in so many fields.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)THE STUPID! IT BURNS!!!
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)most newspapers and other material regularly read by adults are written at about a 5th grade reading level. So you can get by with a 4th grade level of mastery.
That of course doesn't begin to excuse lying to our kids in Science class.
MattBaggins
(7,897 posts)News and magazine periodicals write at a 5th grade level, because that is the reading level of average Americans.
mbperrin
(7,672 posts)Including physics, senior English, Algebra 2, and 2 years of foreign language. NOT ONE of which was required with the 17 credits I graduated with in 1971 right here in the great state of Texas.
There is a large group being held hostage by their parents with no accountability whatsoever, and that is tragic.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)My daughter took an APEX Economics class on her own to clear up her schedule next year. It was not a very well presented course, but she did have to do some studying to take the proctored tests (online and written). Overall I feel she got a pretty good understanding of Economics. She reports that several of her classmates are now taking the same class for repeat credit (they did not pass the High School version of the course). They only have to take the online version (not the written portion), and they are allowed to refer to their notes (basically summary sheets with all the concepts as fill in the blanks).
The Honors courses and AP courses at her High School are very rigorous (actually harder than her community college courses). They do not have weighted GPAs so the really good students are somewhat penalized (that is ok since the really top students take AP and Honors and get As anyway). We are a little concerned that she might get less than an A in one of her college classes which will throw her out of the top 5% (she already has one A-). If that happens then she becomes ineligible for partial state college scholarship even though she will graduate with at least 50 hours of college credit - most of it applicable to an engineering degree.
NoPasaran
(17,291 posts)SomeGuyInEagan
(1,515 posts)Seriously, copyright that one and start printing up t-shirts. Made my day.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)mountain grammy
(26,600 posts)private tax money going to Christian schools teaching this bullshit..
When I grew up there were public schools or Catholic schools or rich kid private schools. I interacted with kids and teachers from public and Catholic.. Catholic schools had their share of religion, but when it came to teaching science, math, history, English, they used the same textbooks we did. Guess they weren't "real Christians."
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)dems_rightnow
(1,956 posts)That's my opinion.
enki23
(7,786 posts)I call hoax on that weather report! Few people would be so gullible as to believe it rained in April!
gristy
(10,667 posts)We do have a problem with creationism being taught in the name of science, but I doubt this is a legitimate example of this.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)[font size=3]Its The FLINTSTONES!
A complete work of Cartoon Fiction,
just like THIS one!
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MOTRDemocrat
(87 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)B*sh once asked with the question phrased very similar to my subject line.
Some are learning THAT, apparently. smh
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)be accepted as correct. That was long before the church decided it was in possession of a text book instead of a religious book.
mzmolly
(50,980 posts)for a private or home-school?
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)it's either 5,000 years or 6,004.
Science!
ileus
(15,396 posts)I bet I've been missing something all my life....that one connection that would tie everything together.
HarveyDarkey
(9,077 posts)Now we know where to go get them!
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)The zealots pushing this are quite mad, pushing the nonsense that there is no proof of evolution and that carbon dating is somehow wrong.
Only in America, at least on any kind of scale.
Religious fanatics have caused so much harm through the ages, burning women at the stake, etc, and now this.
xocet
(3,871 posts)The image was seemingly posted originally on reddit by user puskunk. Here is some of the related discussion:
1 point 7 minutes ago
I don't want the kid to get in trouble, so I am keeping that under my hat until June when school is over.
1 point 10 minutes ago
The friend was livid, he doesn't believe this shit either.
1 point 48 minutes ago
You mean the War Between the States?
1 point 1 hour ago
Yeah, it's private. I went to SC public school also and got a decent education.
2 points 1 hour ago
No.
1 point 1 hour ago
Yes, I know what school, but I am not publicizing it since it is a small school and I don't want any publicity that might reflect badly on the kid. I took the picture on my iPhone.
http://www.reddit.com/user/puskunk
There is a second image at imgur that shows an additional question that has been answered:
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)The fundies might want to rethink a test entry that encourages even a whiff of critical thinking. Who knows where that might lead.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Makes me furious. This cannot continue.
Apophis
(1,407 posts)He/she is going to get laughed at in college, if he/she can even get in.
This is criminal.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The kid can be a Doctor of Theology or something stupid and pointless like that.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)Test results like these are exactly what Perry and other 'Bagger govs want in their states.
OwnedByCats
(805 posts)I don't remember learning that in elementary school or bible school lol. In my day we were left with trying to figure out the discrepancy. So eventually I had to ask my father "if God created the earth in 7 days, how were dinosaurs here millions of years before man?". While my parents believe in a higher power, they never attend church and rarely discuss religion. I was taken to bible class by grandparents. However my father's explanation was far more reasonable than what I'm seeing being taught today.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)They forgot the quotes around "Science".
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)AlinPA
(15,071 posts)sakabatou
(42,141 posts)It'd make the kid stupid either way.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)Before it was "Technical Knock Out," and used to denote the end of a boxing match.
Now we have "Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma," to denote when the match is over.
Q: Hey, what happened to Social Security?"
A: T.K.Oed
Q: What happened to women's control over their own bodies?
A: T.K.Oed
Q: Oh, no! What happened to workers' rights?
A: T.K.Oed
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)when he made "Religulous"
(I'd love to see his take on this!)
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)by a local church. homeschoolers.
you can thank the education deformers.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)"Is our children learning?"
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Of course, the weirder the lies, the likelier that the poorly educated youth will reject the Big Lie when coming of age in the secular world.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Here's a chance to exercise those liberal arts writing skills.
Rider3
(919 posts)wet.hen88
(64 posts)What will this sort of teaching bring down on us in the future? Will we be in the same mess Middle Easterners, with education, are subjected to from the Islamic fundamentalists? If children are educated? this way, what will be our future? We're going BACKWARDS!
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It's from this DVD series:
http://www.amazon.com/Dinosaurs-Genesis-Gospel-Ken-Ham/dp/B000EGZ4XS/ref=cm_cmu_pg_t
In the Youtube clip, several of the questions are specifically addressed in the video.
Don't know if this was assigned in a school - but it is a real quiz from a real source.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)edit:
So who is Ian Juby?
"Ian Juby is the founder of Canadas first Creation Museum, the traveling Creation Science Museum of Canada. He is also the founder and president of the International Creation Science SIG for members of Mensa International, and a member of Mensa himself. In 2007 he took on the presidency of Citizens for Origins Research and Education, in Ottawa, Ontario."
http://creationsciencehalloffame.org/living/ian-juby/
Mensa & Creationism ... something ain't kosher.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)because EVERYONE needs to see this story!