New York State Senator: ‘Torture’ Boston Bombing Suspect

[cali]

Greg Ball, a state senator in New York, suggested Friday that authorities should "torture" the captured Boston bombing suspect, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who is a naturalized American citizen and remains in serious condition at an area hospital.



So, scum bag #2 in custody. Who wouldn't use torture on this punk to save more lives?
8:52 PM - 19 Apr 2013

In response to criticism, he told the Journal News that “If people find that offensive, they’re going to have to check their own conscience."

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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/new-york-state-senator-torture-boston-bombing-suspect

[Cali_Democrat]

1. Let's torture Greg Ball

See how he likes it. I'm sure he'll change his tune.

[CJCRANE]

2. Nice soundbite but torture isn't effective

and I'm sure he knows that.

[idwiyo]

3. My suggestion to Greg Ball would be to voluntarily submit himself to waterboarding session.

Lets see what he'll say after. I distinctly remember 2 defenders of waterboarding changing their minds after they tried it.

[olddots]

4. Go two sources in and find out he is a repuke

[cali]

6. I confess: I was so sure he was a repuke that I didn't bother to check

terribly remiss of me, I know.

[pinboy3niner]

5. ...says the man without a conscience

[longship]

7. Does he want the doctors to pull out the intubation before water boarding him?

I am done here. Sickening.

[blkmusclmachine]

8. Keep digging that hole, GOP.

Real classy.

[SummerSnow]

9. Just make him watch countless hours of HoneyBooBoo he will talk then

[sibelian]

10. Ah, the striking of attitudes for the sake of attention.

They're like cockroaches.

[Solly Mack]

11. Fuck Greg Ball and all others who think that way.

[a la izquierda]

12. My sister in law said essentially the same thing.

She suggested the little boy's father should do it.

And she's a good Catholic.

[SummerSnow]

13. Greg Ball is a Catholic...probably in church right now.

[a la izquierda]

14. So Christ-like...

Yeah right.

[HockeyMom]

15. He also voted against Marriage Equality

based on his Catholic religion. I wrote to him before the vote.

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

20. If he is a Catholic, then he is also going against the teachings of his Church

Let me explain: The Second Vatican Council, in section 25 of its Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, Lumen Gentium said that there are three modes of infallible teaching in Catholicism. The first is an ex cathedra statement by the Pope; the second is the Pope and the bishops teaching in unison, what is called the "Ordinary and Universal Magisterium"; and the third is a declaration from a properly constituted ecumenical council -- such as Vatican II.

Now, in section 27 of Vatican II's Pastoral Constitution on the Church in the Modern World, Gaudium et Spes, torture is called malum in se -- "evil in itself". In section 80 of his encyclical Veritatis Splendor, Pope John Paul II called torture intrinsece malum -- "intrinsically evil". Thus, Mr Ball is required by his religion to reject torture under any and all circumstances. For him to do otherwise would be to reject a teaching from his Church that he is supposed to consider infallible.

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

16. I oppose torture in all cases

And my conscience is perfectly clear. Mr Ball's conscience should be troubling him, since he is saying "Let's break the law! Let's do something that is illegal, immoral, and unreliable!"

[spanone]

17. asshole. i find it offensive as an american and a human being.

[lapislzi]

18. On behalf of New York, I apologize.

This person is a shit stain on the state and the nation. Folks who know me know I've gone head-to-head with him several times (and required a shower afterwards). He is the ugliest caricature of tea party hate you can imagine. And he lives in my town. After one exchange, he wanted a photo op with me. I declined and beat a hasty retreat.

So, America, I am sorry. Those of us with hearts and consciences are trying hard to get rid of him. Regrettably, he has a lot of popular support in our very red little town.

[alphafemale]

19. nah...just let his Uncle in the room.

I can see him...trying to butt scoot the bed away.

[tabbycat31]

21. To think my parents live in his district

He got in on the tea party wave of 2010 and needs to go.