"swearing profusely in the ambulance ride after his final confrontation with the FBI"

[steve2470]

The neck wound apparently did not initially silence Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, who was swearing profusely in the ambulance ride after his final confrontation with the FBI, according to a source familiar with the case. The Justice Department remained quiet Saturday on whether officials had been able to question Tsarnaev, or whether they would attempt to do so before he consults an attorney.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-boston-bombings-20130421,0,2725026,full.story

Interesting if true.

eta: How he would swear profusely with the neck wound is a mystery to me.

[Tx4obama]

1. Probably the only reason he cannot talk now is because of the tube they have down his throat.

I read earlier that he is intubated.

And also IF he has already talked then the FBI wouldn't want 'others' that might be involved that he has ratted them out,
so that they can put them under surveillance before they decided to head out of town.

[Art_from_Ark]

2. I can think of one possibility

By swearing profusely (assuming in a loud voice), he could have aggravated the injury in his neck (throat), like someone who becomes hoarse after trying to talk loud with a scratchy/sore throat.

[pinboy3niner]

3. I can be provoked to swear profusely, too

But when I had an injury like that, all I did was give my docs a thumbs-up

[snot]

4. Given the history of official fictionalization,

(e.g., Bin Laden kill and the Jessica Lynch rescue), I'm inclined to wait to speculate.

[mother earth]

27. Amen to that. nt

[Riftaxe]

5. are you serious?

Exactly how do you think a neck wound or even a head wound would preclude swearing like a sailor?

[steve2470]

7. my understanding is he *possibly* shot himself through the mouth and the bullet injured his neck

That's why I said that. All the accounts I've read are that he was seriously injured and low on blood. I'm no doctor and never have claimed to be.

[pinboy3niner]

8. Depends

When I had a facial combat wound, I was unable to talk at all.

[longship]

6. Let's not draw any conclusions on speculation here.

If he was, as was reported, intubated at the hospital, he would not be able to speak. That's a done deal right there. He cannot talk right now.

Don't start spinning yarns based on ignorance. Please.

[steve2470]

9. that story is in the LA Times. I'm not spinning any yarns whatsoever nt

[longship]

10. I don't doubt the story; I doubt your conclusions.

That it has anything to do with his apparent silence now. Indeed, he is undoubtedly in serious condition. But, a neck wound need not prevent him from speaking.

But intubation would!!!!

That's the point. If, as has been reported that they intubated him, he would not be able to talk in spite of anything he said before he was intubated.

Sheesh!

[steve2470]

11. Look...I made no "conclusions"

I posted an LA Times story. Re-read my exact text carefully.

Interesting if true.

eta: How he would swear profusely with the neck wound is a mystery to me.

I'm not a doctor. I'm glad you have enough medical knowledge to know he COULD swear profusely in his condition. If the story is TRUE, it came as a surprise to me. I already knew from media reports that he is CURRENTLY intubated and cannot speak apparently. This story has to do with the ambulance ride.

Geeze louise. I guess I'll get my MD degree before I ever make any comments again.

/sarcasm off

[pinboy3niner]

13. Looking forward to celebrating your MD, lol

It's not on you. We all post stories without necessarily endorsing their details or conclusions.

Nevertheless, I'm now swearing profusely at you!!!

[steve2470]

15. You have a great sense of humor :)

We'll have to wait a long time before that MD certificate arrives

[pinboy3niner]

18. You've always been a great poster here, and i don't mind having a little fun at your expense :)

As expected, you took it in good humor.

When you get that MD, I've got this thing over here I'd like you to take a look at. This thing is fucking gross, man!!

[steve2470]

19. Thank you for kind words :)

I'll do a long distance Dr. Frist on you

[pinboy3niner]

23. And to think I used to like you

[steve2470]

24. Best wishes to Occupy LA, if you all are still doing it

I sent them a small donation. From what I read, the LAPD got pretty brutal with it.

[pinboy3niner]

25. Thanks for remembering that

I'm a bit remote, so going down to L.A. for actions on public transportation takes me 2-1/2 to 4 hours one way. Still, I've been to a lot of protests, but the very BEST part is meeting other DUers there.

I've protested in L.A. with Duers Fire Walk With Me, ellisonz, zhade, U4ikLefty, coalition unwilling and his lovely wife, and others.

I never expected that I'd meet a half dozen DUers there. What a lovely bonus! We are family!

Thanks for your support. Despite the premature postmortems, Occupy lives on!

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. One of these days we need to meet

And no, it's far from dead, just ask the NRC and the CPUC.

[pinboy3niner]

56. We'll probably have an opportunity to get together before long...

...either at a regional SoCal event or even a large local action. I've seen SDers at Occupy actions here like Occupy the Rose Parade, and I was tempted to take the train to SD for one big event there last year.

Recently we've had a series of OccupyLA actions protesting Monsanto and CISPA, but nothing really big yet. As the sinister-eyed cat says, "Soon..."

And ellisonz is still around here and I'm in touch with Fire and Mr. & Mrs. coalition_unwilling by other means, so we have the makings of a nice meetup when the occasion arises.

[nadinbrzezinski]

57. I promise to leave the you got permission to get stupid media card

(Actually I carry it, everywhere, with the point and shoot I used for a lot of occupy actions, take the better gear for work)

[pinboy3niner]

59. Don't worry, I shoot a lot of pics at these actions, too

If only because it means so much more here when one of our own shares personal photos of an event (I know I get a kick out of seeing pics posted by other members here).

I don't have a rig like yours, but my little digital camera suffices.

[nadinbrzezinski]

60. The point and shoots do amazing work

And you want to laugh? I got the 5100 since it fits my hands. My husband's pro rig, I can't reach the controls.

I have shot amazing shots with the kit lens as well

It is the photographer, not the camera...composition is composition.

[pinboy3niner]

62. Composition, shmomposition! (can you tell I'm not much of a photog? :) )

Don't tell anyone, but my personal secret to good photos is...pure dumb luck.

[nadinbrzezinski]

63. I get you shoot a lot of shots

What do you think the pros do?



And I am being serious.

Demotex is far more...into the tripod and waiting for the right moment...very different school of shot.

[rbrnmw]

50. I went to an Occupy Columbia SC protest met lots of good folks

but didn't meet any DU'ers now I'm jealous

[longship]

21. The events are what they were.

These events are what they were.

So what if the dude cussed out in the ambulance. What is your point bringing this up in an OP? You must be thinking something other than Gee! Isn't this strange.

Yet you have not bothered to say what that is, in spite of reasonable entreaties for you to do so.

BTW, strange things happen in any historic event. Those who focus on apparent anomalies may tend to be overly focussed on such. Those things are often a fertile ground for conspiracy theories, which is not a thing to profess here at DU.

So you must understand our response to your post. At least I will be frank about my intentions.

What say you?

And thank you for the colloquy.

[Nay]

32. I would also think he might have been given pain killers as well, which would make him

unable to be Mirandized because he would be legally incapable of understanding it. But I may be full of shit.

[CJCRANE]

12. Thanks for the post.

You're right to be skeptical.

I'm sure there's a temptation amongst some journalists to "embellish" or "embroider" the truth just to get a different angle or more sensationalist story rather than just repeat what everyone else is saying.

[steve2470]

14. Thank you

As we have seen in the last week, news reports are not always 100% accurate.

If he was indeed "swearing profusely" during the ambulance ride, either a) his neck wound was not that severe or b) he was able to get words out despite it.

The media is reporting consistently that he has been intubated, so of course he cannot speak right now. When the dust settles, we'll get the truth better.

[longship]

22. Or he was subsequently intubated...

which subsequently rendered him incapable of speaking. It was, after all, also reported.

The guy was, after all, seriously even gravely injured.

[olddots]

16. how did a L.A. times "reporter "

get in the ambulance ? yup interesting if true wish the media wouldn't muddle up the justice system but its been doing it for years.

[steve2470]

17. My guess is the reporter has some kind of contact with law enforcement

Maybe one of the ambulance people talked ? We'll see how this pans out over the next week or so.

[lexw]

20. With all the audio/video recording capabilities on hand in our lives today...

I sure hope someone had the half-a-brain to be recording him cursing like this.
If not, this country is in trouble. ....well, never mind.

[jimmil]

26. No one has said the obvious...

Maybe he can sign... using really big gestures... or maybe all caps on his iPhone...

[HooptieWagon]

58. +1 good one

Nice to see a DUer who still has a sense of humor.

[RedstDem]

28. its all part of the cover up

According to Glenn beck/Alex Jones wierdos.
Since the FBI ran the whole thing and and blub a blub a bluh

[freshwest]

40. And it's keeping people awake at night!

[steve2470]

41. haha ! nt

[SummerSnow]

29. I agree also.Some reports say he cant speak because he was shot in the tongue

[TheCowsCameHome]

30. That's nothing, compared to what I was saying about him.

He's lucky, in that regard.

[Baitball Blogger]

31. He is definitely a young man at war with the world.

[undeterred]

33. I think that this part is probably not true.

If he was bleeding for hours with nothing to eat or drink he was probably weak and exhausted.

[glinda]

34. No doubt. Sounds like he sustained injury earlier on if he

was dropping blood here and there. I do not know if he shot himself or they shot him. Actually, I don't care because am sure he is probably in pretty bad shape. I think the older brother created his own reality to make his self seem important and the younger one was stupid. I mean, what does it say when he runs over his own brother and kills him. Maybe that reality hit him in the face.

[scarletwoman]

35. "...according to a source familiar with the case." That's a red flag right there.

I think someone just pulled that out of their ass.

I'm also "familiar with case" - I could be a source, too!

[freshwest]

42. Tell us, then, tell us! We bow to your internet speculative powers! LOL@ myself, too.

[scarletwoman]

43. First you must bring me the broomstick of the Wicked Witch of the West.

[freshwest]

44. Will a tiny whisk broom work? LOL.

[scarletwoman]

47. Okay, but then I'll only speculate a tiny bit.

[winter is coming]

61. You should have held out for a shrubbery.

[tralala]

36. This whole story -- from beginning to end --

stinks to high heaven

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. As a medic who transported folks with pretty serious facial and neck trauma

I can actually seen it.

We had one we really were impressed as to the swearing and we were trying to keep him calm, since all that could get more bleeding going.

But the medics should not be talking.

[steve2470]

39. thank you for your input sincerely

In my ignorance I assumed (yes I know) he could not be swearing.

[freshwest]

45. I could tell you a very personal story. Injured people sometimes do strange things.

Counter to conventional wisdom.

[steve2470]

46. yea, my CW failed this time, I admit nt

[pinboy3niner]

49. NOT being able to talk can be very frustrating

When I was in an ICU with a metal tracheostomy tube in my neck I'd been given a plastic urinal jug. The nurse didn't come back for it after I used it, so I wedged it standing up between my legs and went to sleep. I must have rolled over in the morning, because the bed--and I--were suddenly drenched. After going into the bathroom to clean up and change into fresh pajamas I returned to find that the nurse had added a new entry to my chart: "Incontinent 1000 cc's." As much as I wanted to explain to the nurse and correct the record (I did NOT wet the bed, dammit!!!), I couldn't say a word because of the trache.

[steve2470]

52. I know that sucked

[nadinbrzezinski]

54. It can. I always told my kids that offering a pen and paper is good

[rustydog]

48. How can a guy who can't talk because of a throat injury

curse profusely in the ambulance?

Just askin'

Why don't we wait and see what really happened.

[WinkyDink]

51. Sure, he did. And now in custody he is incapable of uttering a word. Okay.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

53. It's possible as a part of his treatment they installed a trache.

If he had to have work done on or near his airway, that isn't unheard of.

I have no idea one way or the other, I'm just saying there are reasons for a person losing their ability to speak while undergoing treatment for a neck wound.

[alcibiades_mystery]

55. I heard he was saying "My name is Sunil Fucking Tripathi dammit!!!"