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anobserver2

(836 posts)
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 10:39 PM Apr 2013

Has any media reported how Tamerlan Tsarnaev earned a living? What was his job?

I am just wondering how this now deceased 26 year old earned a living to afford his boxing training, fancy Mercedes car, rent in Cambridge, MA, food, clothes, and supported his wife and child in Rhode Island.

Does anyone know how this guy earned a living? Has any media reported it?

I find it a very odd omission. Did he have a money tree growing in the backyard?

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Has any media reported how Tamerlan Tsarnaev earned a living? What was his job? (Original Post) anobserver2 Apr 2013 OP
I am just curious about this anobserver2 Apr 2013 #1
Also re his uncle's comment anobserver2 Apr 2013 #2
They are most likely wealthy. Chechnya & Grozny are both fairly well off. The father is probably JaneyVee Apr 2013 #29
The only thing I've heard is... Tx4obama Apr 2013 #3
Right ONe month of work - in Russia. anobserver2 Apr 2013 #5
i heard his wife worked and he was a stay at home father. but, that is just what i heard. seabeyond Apr 2013 #4
That's interesting - because I don't think he lived with his wife and daughter -- anobserver2 Apr 2013 #6
interesting. i heard this at the very beginning of it all. have not heard anything since. was like, seabeyond Apr 2013 #9
I wondered about that, because I have only heard about his wife City Lights Apr 2013 #11
I heard that, too. City Lights Apr 2013 #7
BTW, law enforcement did a great job, IMO anobserver2 Apr 2013 #8
And, as minor as it may seem: I would still like to know: How was this guy paying his bills? anobserver2 Apr 2013 #10
Or - for that matter - what did his wife think he did from Mon-Friday? anobserver2 Apr 2013 #12
His wife moved back to her parents in RI with the baby over a year ago FarCenter Apr 2013 #26
This isn't a minor question; it's the major question. pnwmom Apr 2013 #15
Well, if it's major then -- anobserver2 Apr 2013 #16
It would have depended how extensive that interview was newmember Apr 2013 #19
Two years ago, the FBI interviewed him and looked into questions about whether pnwmom Apr 2013 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author anneboleyn Apr 2013 #25
I'd like to know also. There are drug rumors anneboleyn Apr 2013 #24
Good questions... kentuck Apr 2013 #13
Yeah - where do these people get all this money? anobserver2 Apr 2013 #14
Louis Vuitton shoes and Burberry pants don't come cheap. OhioChick Apr 2013 #20
none of it makes sense newmember Apr 2013 #17
Yeah, that interview was very bizarre, IMO anobserver2 Apr 2013 #18
It was a 67 Mercedes, and it was body work. Finding vintage parts can be tough. politicat Apr 2013 #30
Tsarnaev's odd quote: "America has a lot of jobs" anobserver2 Apr 2013 #21
He knew this would sound good to the audience. FarCenter Apr 2013 #27
To live in Cambridge by yourself you have to earn $2,500 a month, minimum. reformist2 Apr 2013 #22
I don't find them in the online phone and address listings starroute Apr 2013 #23
We don't show up in those databases, though we own our house and have for 12 years. politicat Apr 2013 #31
It can't be just about cellphones, because I find my kids listed starroute Apr 2013 #32
Follow the money. Also who paid for Dzhokhar's college tuition? A $2500 scholarship won't do it. riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #33
He worked as a lifeguard muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #34
UMass-Dartmouth costs $22,200 per year. He got a $2500 scholarship. riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #35

anobserver2

(836 posts)
1. I am just curious about this
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 10:40 PM
Apr 2013

No employer has been interviewed, to my knowledge.

Also, if he didn't have a job, then I am thinking: someone else somewhere was supporting him financially. (And I don't think it was his younger brother.)

Your thoughts?

anobserver2

(836 posts)
2. Also re his uncle's comment
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 10:43 PM
Apr 2013

I think his uncle is the only one who alluded to this issue -- saying the internal family row concerned the fact
this nephew had rejected "a job" and "school" and decided instead, in "2009" to "work for God."

So, that means: what exactly did the FBI think this guy was doing to earn a living back in 2011 when the FBI interviewed him?

This is really a big missing piece of the news coverage, in my opinion.

It is a big big missing piece: what this guy did to earn money for the past several years. (Or ever, for that matter.)

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
29. They are most likely wealthy. Chechnya & Grozny are both fairly well off. The father is probably
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 12:35 AM
Apr 2013

sending money.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
3. The only thing I've heard is...
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 10:43 PM
Apr 2013

... when he was in Russia in 2012 he worked with his father for one month remodeling houses/buildings.

anobserver2

(836 posts)
5. Right ONe month of work - in Russia.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 10:44 PM
Apr 2013

I heard the same. But - this guy was 26 years old. What was he doing the rest of the time? Like since high school in Cambridge?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. i heard his wife worked and he was a stay at home father. but, that is just what i heard.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 10:44 PM
Apr 2013

doesnt make it correct.

anobserver2

(836 posts)
6. That's interesting - because I don't think he lived with his wife and daughter --
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 10:45 PM
Apr 2013

-- except for the weekends in Rhode Island. (I think I heard his wife and child live with the wife's parents in Rhode Island.)

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
9. interesting. i heard this at the very beginning of it all. have not heard anything since. was like,
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 10:49 PM
Apr 2013

if he is suppose to be all that as a caring man, being a stay at home, (not extremist, so stay at home makes no sense) married to a christian working woman... why did he leave his baby for 6 months in russia.

so, i do not know anything for sure, that is for sure, lol. just what i heard at the beginning. i have not heard anything about it lately

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
11. I wondered about that, because I have only heard about his wife
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:00 PM
Apr 2013

and daughter living in RI. I wondered if they were still married, but estranged.

anobserver2

(836 posts)
8. BTW, law enforcement did a great job, IMO
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 10:47 PM
Apr 2013

BTW, I live in MA not far from Watertown, and I think law enforcement on all levels and the mayor and gov all did a great job, as did the public, in trying to solve this extremely difficult situation. I am cheering for law enforcement, too (and I don't understand anyone who does not in this instance). And my sincere condolences to all who suffered and lost their lives, so senselessly and so needlessly by such cruel acts.

anobserver2

(836 posts)
10. And, as minor as it may seem: I would still like to know: How was this guy paying his bills?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 10:51 PM
Apr 2013

What did he report as his employer on his taxes to the state and federal govt for the past 8 years, since leaving high school? Someone somewhere must know this. Or know he did not file. Whatever.

anobserver2

(836 posts)
12. Or - for that matter - what did his wife think he did from Mon-Friday?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:01 PM
Apr 2013

What did his in-laws think he did from Mon-Friday each week? What did his parents think he did? What in fact was he doing each week? I just find it amazing no one is asking more about that. He wasn't in school. And when he went, he only went part time for three semesters and dropped out (a few years ago), according to reports I heard.

There is a big gap here in understanding this guy. Someone must have known how he paid his bills and spent his weeks for the past several years.


He needed money to pay his bills and live in Cambridge MA. Yet I have not heard one source of steady income for this now deceased guy.


Very very very odd, IMO.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
26. His wife moved back to her parents in RI with the baby over a year ago
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 12:31 AM
Apr 2013

He hasn't been with her for a year according to the neighbors -- probably since he went to Dagestan. They are undoubtedly estranged.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
15. This isn't a minor question; it's the major question.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:08 PM
Apr 2013

Did he have benefactors who were funding him in his new life? And why?

anobserver2

(836 posts)
16. Well, if it's major then --
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:10 PM
Apr 2013

-- what was the answer back in 2011 when the FBI interviewed him at that time? I am really curious about that. It had to be something that checked out to make the FBI conclude he was not involved in any wrongdoing. Otherwise, at minimum, the guy would have been arrested for tax evasion, I would think.

 

newmember

(805 posts)
19. It would have depended how extensive that interview was
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:28 PM
Apr 2013

Did they check bank accounts ?
Money transfers?

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
28. Two years ago, the FBI interviewed him and looked into questions about whether
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 12:34 AM
Apr 2013

he was connected with terrorism. According to the FBI, they didn't come up with anything.

But a lot can happen in two years. One thing that did happen is that he spent 7 months in Russia.

Response to pnwmom (Reply #15)

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
24. I'd like to know also. There are drug rumors
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 12:27 AM
Apr 2013

Probably because his best friend was murdered in an apparently drug-related attack (Brendan Mess, there was a thread about this case earlier today on DU)

There are definitely rumors circulating that he may have had some type of drug involvement -- primarily for the reasons you are wondering about also: where did he get all of this money?

anobserver2

(836 posts)
14. Yeah - where do these people get all this money?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:07 PM
Apr 2013

"Follow the money" -- I think that's what media should be talking about a little bit more. Because these guys had it. But good grief, no jobs ever mentioned that would result in such a steady stream of much needed on-going funds, just to live in MA the way they did.

 

newmember

(805 posts)
17. none of it makes sense
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:16 PM
Apr 2013

THE only thing for sure is he spent money on cars and clothes.

They even talked to garage he brought his car to.
The mechanic said he had worked on different expensive cars the suspect brought in.
Not just the Mercedes he owned now. (or was it a BMW)

anobserver2

(836 posts)
18. Yeah, that interview was very bizarre, IMO
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:22 PM
Apr 2013

What mechanic do you know takes "two weeks" to have a car sit in a lot without doing any work on it?
What mechanic allows anyone to pick up a car? I thought that mechanic - "Junior" was his last name? - was
very odd in the way he allegedly does business in his car lot there. I would never bring a car to a mechanic
and expect that after two weeks, the work would still not be finished. I found the mechanic interview aspect of this
saga to be extremely odd in a very quiet low key way. But extremely odd nevertheless.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
30. It was a 67 Mercedes, and it was body work. Finding vintage parts can be tough.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 12:40 AM
Apr 2013

We had a 67 Volkswagen for a few years, and those were common on the scale of vintage cars. Mercedes have always been less common. Getting mechanical parts for the Bug wasn't hard, but body parts always took at least a week, if not longer, because they had to be ordered and shipped.

Body work always takes longer, too, because body work always includes paint.

On the other hand, a 67 Mercedes is not a beater -- probably 15 grand for a "restore me" to 100k for ready to go.

And in Boston traffic.... Oi. Unlikely car for a parent to give a college student, especially in a city with such good public transit and such high insurance rates.

IIRC, mechanics don't generally allow unsafe vehicles to be picked up, and a car without tail lights is absolutely unsafe.

Interesting lead to track down, though... Not too many 67 Mercedes in the registration databases, and not too many that were in some sort of accident 3 weeks ago.

anobserver2

(836 posts)
21. Tsarnaev's odd quote: "America has a lot of jobs"
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 12:08 AM
Apr 2013

From http://www.sentinelandenterprise.com/ci_23061347/dead-bombing-suspect-boxed-lowell-golden-gloves?source=rss_viewed


...Tsarnaev fought in the Lowell Sun Charities Golden Gloves in the 178-pound novice class and won his fight.

"I wanted to fight in the Gloves to see how I would do," Tsarnaev told The Sun that night. "So far, so good."

He also said: "I like the USA ... America has a lot of jobs. That's something Russia doesn't have. You have a chance to make money here if you are willing to work."

Read more: http://www.sentinelandenterprise.com/ci_23061347/dead-bombing-suspect-boxed-lowell-golden-gloves?source=rss_viewed#ixzz2R4FAzNew

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To me this is an odd quote from him because: he doesn't seem to ever have had a job. (What makes him think there are "a lot" of jobs in America? It sounds like he's never ever held one.)

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
22. To live in Cambridge by yourself you have to earn $2,500 a month, minimum.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 12:18 AM
Apr 2013

Rents there are very expensive.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
23. I don't find them in the online phone and address listings
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 12:25 AM
Apr 2013

I find the relatives in Maryland. One site which doesn't remove old listings shows the father in Cambridge. But nothing for the brothers. So either somebody else was paying their rent or they were paying to be unlisted.



politicat

(9,808 posts)
31. We don't show up in those databases, though we own our house and have for 12 years.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 12:43 AM
Apr 2013

We've been cell-phone only since before we bought the house; we've never had a land line here. That's more common.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
32. It can't be just about cellphones, because I find my kids listed
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 09:48 AM
Apr 2013

They're both listed at my address, though neither of them had anything in their own names here. And one, but not the other, is listed at their current address, though I'm pretty sure they've never had a landline. So there must be some other source.

But I'll grant that it's easier for young people to slip through the cracks.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
33. Follow the money. Also who paid for Dzhokhar's college tuition? A $2500 scholarship won't do it.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 10:36 AM
Apr 2013

Who was paying for him at school?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,265 posts)
34. He worked as a lifeguard
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 11:08 AM
Apr 2013
Mostly, Finlay said, Tsarnaev behaved like a typical Cambridge teen. During high school Tsarnaev was employed by the University, working intermittently as a lifeguard as recently as the summer of 2012, a Harvard official told The Crimson.

“He seemed like a regular high school kid, just trying make a buck after class,” Finlay said. “He sat in the chair, guarded people, did his job.”

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2013/4/19/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-profile-classmates/?page=single


And perhaps he got some money from his father. Or uncles or aunts, at least 2 of whom live in North America.
 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
35. UMass-Dartmouth costs $22,200 per year. He got a $2500 scholarship.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 10:03 PM
Apr 2013

That figure is excluding "living" costs like toiletries, laundry etc. which Dzhokhar would have had to pay on top.

Somebody was subsidizing him for more than $20,000 per year.

http://www.umassd.edu/financialaid/eligibility/costofattendancebudget/

PLUS they were subsidizing the brother. Cars, expensive clothes, care for the wife and baby....

And travel expenses to Chechnya for extended stays for both of them....

None of that is small change.

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