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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 02:52 PM Apr 2013

Texas Explosion Seen as Sign of Weak U.S. Oversight

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-19/texas-explosion-seen-as-sign-of-weak-u-s-oversight.html


Smoke rises from the rubble of a house next to the fertilizer plant that exploded yesterday afternoon on April 18, 2013 in West, Texas.

The Texas plant that was the scene of a deadly explosion this week was last inspected by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration in 1985. The risk plan it filed with regulators listed no flammable chemicals. And it was cleared to hold many times the ammonium nitrate that was used in the Oklahoma City bombing.

For worker- and chemical-safety advocates who have been pushing the U.S. government to crack down on facilities that make or store large quantities of hazardous chemicals, the blast in West, Texas, was a grim reminder of the risks these plants pose. And they say regulators haven’t done enough to tackle the problem.

“Definitely, somewhere along the line at the federal level, there was a failure,” Sean Moulton, director of open government policy at the Center for Effective Government, a Washington-based watchdog, said in an interview. “It was quite clear that they just didn’t consider flammability or explosiveness to be a problem, and given what occurred that was clearly shortsighted.”

The April 17 fire and explosion at Adair Grain Inc.’s West Fertilizer Co. plant flattened houses and devastated the center of the town of West, about 80 miles south of Dallas. Search crews had recovered 12 bodies as of noon today and 200 people were reported injured, making it the worst U.S. industrial disaster in three years. U.S. Senator John Cornyn said 60 people remain unaccounted for.
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Texas Explosion Seen as Sign of Weak U.S. Oversight (Original Post) xchrom Apr 2013 OP
That's just what the publicans wanted. Now they got it. marybourg Apr 2013 #1
The true cost of Texas deregulation on display on point Apr 2013 #2
Goddam, what a load of shit. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #3
+1 emulatorloo Apr 2013 #11
They stored 1350 times the amount they were legally allowed to. alarimer Apr 2013 #18
is this a state or federal problem? hollysmom Apr 2013 #4
Take your pick. moondust Apr 2013 #10
See Buzz Clik's post above. Owners did not report to DHS emulatorloo Apr 2013 #12
Homeland Security is responsible? hollysmom Apr 2013 #20
No shit. musette_sf Apr 2013 #5
Captain Obvious strikes again n/t MountainLaurel Apr 2013 #6
Lessons of Grover Norquist strike again. geomon666 Apr 2013 #7
Bearing in mind that this is the home of the former president, and a governor who.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #8
And the home of Mr. We Don't Need No Regulations... TwilightZone Apr 2013 #9
How could I forget about Mr. Paul? It'll be interesting to get his take on federal help. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #22
He'll support federal assistance. He'll use the same logic as he did with earmarks. TwilightZone Apr 2013 #25
I don't think most people understand what a farce "libertarianism" is, and the Pauls..... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #27
Texas fertilizer company didn't heed disclosure rules before blast emulatorloo Apr 2013 #13
Not having been inspected over 25 years? Generic Other Apr 2013 #14
It was inspected, just not by OSHA. TwilightZone Apr 2013 #26
Ya think? senseandsensibility Apr 2013 #15
Thank you, Cpt. Obvious sakabatou Apr 2013 #16
Ain't industry "self regulation" ... 99Forever Apr 2013 #17
"Seen as," my ass. It IS. And it's not a SIGN of weak oversight. It's a DIRECT RESULT of weak Brickbat Apr 2013 #19
k/r marmar Apr 2013 #21
In other news Aerows Apr 2013 #23
It is evidence supporting accusations that the GOP program of rustydog Apr 2013 #24
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
3. Goddam, what a load of shit.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 03:12 PM
Apr 2013

This was NOT an OSHA problem. Or a worker safety problem.

This storage facility blew up because a building with ammonium nitrate inside caught on fire.

People died because the negligent bastard who owns/manages the place didn't report the ammonium nitrate or file appropriate reporting to DHS.

If the feds are going to inspect every fertilizer dealer at every wide spot in the road across this country, then we're going to need a lot more federal inspectors.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
18. They stored 1350 times the amount they were legally allowed to.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 06:49 PM
Apr 2013

The plant had not been inspected for close to 30 years! It IS most certainly a problem of lax regulation and lax inspection. There have NEVER been enough OSHA inspectors.


So, yes, the owners did get away with murder, but only because the government (both Texas and the feds) allowed them to.

emulatorloo

(44,096 posts)
12. See Buzz Clik's post above. Owners did not report to DHS
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 05:09 PM
Apr 2013

They had a massive amt of ammonium nitrate that they were supposed to report. They did not do that

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
20. Homeland Security is responsible?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 09:29 PM
Apr 2013

Is there some state office that is supposed to check on the safety of plants for residents as well? I know you complain to the state with questions about dumping or air problems - like the company that stored mustard gas across the street from a grammar school in Belleville NJ. Note - it was reported by an employee and had to be moved.

Odd in a state that pushes less regulation and hardly has zoning laws - I think that was the thing most surprising about visiting friends in Texas - little to no zoning laws. Slums next to mansions.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
7. Lessons of Grover Norquist strike again.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 03:58 PM
Apr 2013

"I'm not in favor of abolishing the government. I just want to shrink it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."

Tarheel_Dem

(31,228 posts)
8. Bearing in mind that this is the home of the former president, and a governor who....
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 04:15 PM
Apr 2013

openly ruminated about secession from the "heavy hand of the federal government". And let's not forget the idiots who approved land development around this plant to include a school, residential dwellings & a nursing home.

Before you go blaming the feds for this, ask yourself who in TX was gonna approve tax hikes to hire enough inspectors, that they openly despise, to more closely monitor places like this. In this past presidential election, West (McLennan County) voted for the party of no regulation by a whopping 30 pts. http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/texas/ So, you get what you vote for, and if that happens to be the party who claims that regulations are "job killers", then you take your chances.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,228 posts)
22. How could I forget about Mr. Paul? It'll be interesting to get his take on federal help.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 03:40 PM
Apr 2013

I want to hear him argue that the residents, or even better, the chemical company needs to rebuild this city on their own.

TwilightZone

(25,451 posts)
25. He'll support federal assistance. He'll use the same logic as he did with earmarks.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 04:00 PM
Apr 2013

His explanation for why he's in the top five on earmark requests was that he's against earmarks, in principle, but it's his job to request them for his constituents. The same will likely apply here. Federal assistance shouldn't exist, but since it does, it should be used here. That's his rationale.

He doesn't understand how that might just be a little hypocritical.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,228 posts)
27. I don't think most people understand what a farce "libertarianism" is, and the Pauls.....
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 05:23 PM
Apr 2013

are just the poster boys. There's a vocal libertarian influence here at DU, and one can't help but scratch one's head at the flagrant hypocrisy. I, personally, want the people of West, TX to get all the assistance they need to recover, even though I probably disagree with them on nearly every policy position.

It'll certainly be interesting when the complaints start rolling in from these rugged individualists start griping on the teevee that the radical Muslin..Kenyan..Socialist in the WH didn't monitor this factory close enough, and isn't doling out the socialist cash fast enough. You and I both know it's coming. It's ironic that these rugged individualists get back far more money than they send to the federal government.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
14. Not having been inspected over 25 years?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 05:42 PM
Apr 2013

That part is hard to believe. It is precisely why we created regulations early in the 20th century. The enormity of the blast area is really frightening.

TwilightZone

(25,451 posts)
26. It was inspected, just not by OSHA.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 04:11 PM
Apr 2013

As the article states, it was inspected several times by environmental regulators in the past ten years.

Clearly, the circumstances that caused the fire/explosion either weren't present at the time of the inspections or, perhaps more likely, not covered by the inspection process.

senseandsensibility

(16,964 posts)
15. Ya think?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 05:44 PM
Apr 2013

The corporate media is studiously ignoring this. Let's see if MSNBC covers it even after the explosion story (which is huge, of course) dies down a bit.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
17. Ain't industry "self regulation" ...
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 06:15 PM
Apr 2013

... just the bomb?

No messy "safety inspectors" getting in the way of the profits.

Yeee haw!

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
19. "Seen as," my ass. It IS. And it's not a SIGN of weak oversight. It's a DIRECT RESULT of weak
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 06:51 PM
Apr 2013

oversight.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
23. In other news
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 03:41 PM
Apr 2013

water is wet.

WTF are people supposed to conclude other than that it is weak oversight? (not directed at you, Xchrom, but the article).

It doesn't take much brainpower to connect the dots in this situation.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
24. It is evidence supporting accusations that the GOP program of
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 03:46 PM
Apr 2013

shrinking the big evil government until you can drown it in a bathtub worked...too well.

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