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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy are they preventing the media and the residents of that West Texas town
from viewing the devastation or returning to see what happened to their homes.
Why have they chased away the media helicopters?
WTF is going on??
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)They are giving us more time to develop better tin-foil-hat worthy fantasies.
dems_rightnow
(1,956 posts)Perfect.
appleannie1
(5,062 posts)they had more than they should have, why didn't the state report it to the Dept. of Homeland Security as required by law? Why were they allowed to have a fertilizer plant next to 2 schools? There are a lot more questions than answers.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)malaise
(268,693 posts)<snip>
The fertilizer plant that exploded on Wednesday, obliterating part of a small Texas town and killing at least 14 people, had last year been storing 1,350 times the amount of ammonium nitrate that would normally trigger safety oversight by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
Yet a person familiar with DHS operations said the company that owns the plant, West Fertilizer, did not tell the agency about the potentially explosive fertilizer as it is required to do, leaving one of the principal regulators of ammonium nitrate - which can also be used in bomb making - unaware of any danger there.
Fertilizer plants and depots must report to the DHS when they hold 400 pounds or more of the substance. Filings this year with the Texas Department of State Health Services, which weren't shared with DHS, show the plant had 270 tons of it on hand last year.
A U.S. congressman and several safety experts called into question on Friday whether incomplete disclosure or regulatory gridlock may have contributed to the disaster.
"It seems this manufacturer was willfully off the grid," Rep. Bennie Thompson, (D-MS), ranking member of the House Committee on Homeland Security, said in a statement. "This facility was known to have chemicals well above the threshold amount to be regulated under the Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standards Act (CFATS), yet we understand that DHS did not even know the plant existed until it blew up."
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This terrorist should be arrested
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)and having media hordes around will really interfer with that.
Last night on the Boston police scanner, it was clear that media people were getting in the way of approaching the bomber, and in way of possible cross fire, not to mention any possible bombs.
Here is what the Texas town looks like in daylight..obviously some media was able to shoot the pic:
Rex
(65,616 posts)This is the first time I've seen a picture of the site. I can't believe they would build something like that so close to a school and homes!
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Storing large quantities of ammonium nitrate is tightly controlled, but it is self reported. This bastard did not report.
If he had simply reported the storage of the ammonium nitrate, the fire department would have handled their response differently, and the surrounding areas would have been evacuated.
Rex
(65,616 posts)about the ammonium nitrate...now I see why. The owner has a LOT to answer for! That goes beyond criminal negligence imo.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)People and the media need to let the first responders do their jobs.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Doesn't really alarm me.
There was a restaurant here that exploded back in February. Gas leak. Last I heard, they still weren't letting anyone in to check out the rubble.
malaise
(268,693 posts)The report I heard people said people were frustrated because they weren't receiving information
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Even if you tell them, and I am betting on public information officers by the bucketful...it's government. People tend to dismiss both gub'mint (PIO) and media reports.
MineralMan
(146,254 posts)turns up many, many images taken by the media. Go have a look. It appears that the media has been viewing the devastation and photographing it, so I'm not sure your statement is accurate.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Still smoldering.
Until hazmat declares it safe there is still a smallish risk of explosion.
Rex
(65,616 posts)at the same time. And could cause further damage. My speculation, I really don't see any reason they would keep the media and residents away from the scene unless it is still dangerous.
Guess you're right
I just saw a picture of the site for the very first time and I cannot believe they built something like that so close to a public school and homes. So maybe, like the Keystone XL pipeline, they are trying to keep the media away for PR reasons. Not really going to help since I see there are plenty of pictures to show what is wrong with this picture.
Take your pick, it is either one or the other.
malaise
(268,693 posts)the nursing home. Effing crazy!
Rex
(65,616 posts)Ya this is fucked up pretty much every which way from Sunday malaise, hopefully there will be someone held accountable. I am looking at the pictures and wondering how they got away with building it so close to people.
malaise
(268,693 posts)<snip>
President Barack Obama has issued an emergency declaration and pledged disaster relief aid to Texas to help in the recovery efforts following this week's deadly fertilizer plant explosion near Waco.
Obama's order Friday night authorizes the Federal Emergency Management Agency to coordinate disaster relief efforts in the town of West. Wednesday's explosion at the West Fertilizer plant killed at least 14 people, injured more than 200 others and demolished buildings for blocks around.
After addressing the arrest of the second Boston Marathon bombing suspect Friday night, the president extended his sympathies to the community of West and everyone else affected by the explosion.
Obama said he's spoken with Texas Gov. Rick Perry and West's mayor, and he pledged that the community will have the resources it needs to rebuild.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)West Fertilizer began as Texas Grain and was founded in 1958 by the Plasek family, according to court documents in a civil case brought by Adair against the Monsanto Co. in 2007. In 1960, the fledgling company built a small fertilizer blend plant for farmers in the area and started selling fertilizer and grain storage services for other farmers in Texas, according to the records.
The town grew up and around that fertilizer plant, Payne said. Its a staple. Thats how agriculture works.
http://www.statesman.com/news/news/local/fertilizer-plant-owner-longtime-fixtures-in-a-smal/nXRh2/
Rex
(65,616 posts)Live in a small town, can understand exactly what that means.