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Kevin Spidel

(1,828 posts)
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:30 PM Apr 2013

Curious, any photos of the boat the morning after?

Curious how many rounds penetrated the boat. Wondering if both leg and neck wound was from the night before, or did they get him during that brief but intense shoot out too? Curious how much blood lost.

If he was there for 20 some odd hours bleeding out, that must have felt like months questioning his own will/need to live. Also wonder on the engagement strategies. Flash bangs when the person is at that mind set could have resulting in good/bad responses. Curious if the flash bangs happened first, then he shot? Or he shot then the flash bangs.

I dunno. Just trying to understand the mindset of a 19 year old who inflicted terror on this town and how they approached him where the law enforcement officers were able ti brilliantly keep him alive for questioning and no more innocent victims during the engagement.

Kudos law enforcement. Kudos.

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Curious, any photos of the boat the morning after? (Original Post) Kevin Spidel Apr 2013 OP
I'm guessing he was trying to die and it just wasn't happening. tridim Apr 2013 #1
that is the thing... Kevin Spidel Apr 2013 #2
He could have given up at any point. bluedigger Apr 2013 #4
I'd say a little of both.... FarPoint Apr 2013 #3
exactly Kevin Spidel Apr 2013 #6
More pictures would help... FarPoint Apr 2013 #7
Here's a picture where he's sitting on the edge of the boat last night riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #5

Kevin Spidel

(1,828 posts)
2. that is the thing...
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:40 PM
Apr 2013

20 hours or so around your own blood. Hiding. If he wanted to just give in or give up, why fight back at the 20th-ish hour? Why not take your life then (or earlier.) Why fight when mentally you have been soaking up your own pool of blood that long questioning what in your mind? Then a last minute fight? Suicide by cop I get. ending his own life, I get. But to fight, then walk and give up. Something weird. Then again, I don't share the brain of a 19 year old terror.

bluedigger

(17,077 posts)
4. He could have given up at any point.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:45 PM
Apr 2013

His resolve to resist failed. It happens at a different point for everyone, but nobody is immune to it. Some just die or are captured first.

FarPoint

(12,209 posts)
3. I'd say a little of both....
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:45 PM
Apr 2013

Flesh wounds that sealed off on their own from the night time shoot out. I say that since he was quite mobile at that point with a successful escape. The boat shoot out was probably more traumatic as wounds go....looked like fresh, moist blood was present.

Kevin Spidel

(1,828 posts)
6. exactly
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:01 PM
Apr 2013

my thoughts. which was what made my questioning about photos of the boat the morning after. just curious.

FarPoint

(12,209 posts)
7. More pictures would help...
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:50 PM
Apr 2013

We probably won't know his injuries for months....even leaks are unlikely. I sense a "special medical team" is treating him....no leaks with this group. He maybe in a Boston hospital but he is not being treated by Boston local medical. That is how I sense it going down.

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