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From the Boston Globe:
"Gym owner Allan said that Tamerlan had once introduced him to an American, Brendan Mess, whom Tamerlan described as his best friend.
Two years ago, Mess and two other men were brutally killed in a Waltham apartment where they were found by police with their throats slit and their bodies covered with marijuana. The murders remain unsolved."
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/19/relatives-marathon-bombing-suspects-worried-that-older-brother-was-corrupting-sweet-younger-sibling/UCYHkiP9nfsjAtMjJPWJJL/story.html
Another article with more background info about the murders and the victims:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/09/15/police_id_3_victims_in_waltham_killings/
One more article:
http://www.businessinsider.com/murder-of-brendan-mess-the-best-friend-of-boston-bombing-suspect-tamerlan-tsarnaev-2013-4#ixzz2R1tT0Ruw
dkf
(37,305 posts)Supposedly that was his best friend.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)TooMuchGun
(1 post)If you were planning a murder wouldn't it be a good idea to tell people he was your best friend? Tamerlan was obviously a sociopath and had no qualms executing people (MIT Cop)
I'd be shocked if they didn't commit this murder.
cali
(114,904 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)femmocrat
(28,394 posts)No sense speculating about it. Maybe the murder of his best friend influenced Tamerlan to start on the path to "radical Islam" -- or not. (I am trying to choose my words carefully here.) I'm sure someone with more information than we have is looking into it.
dkf
(37,305 posts)In a photo essay by a local photographer in 2010, he can be seen posing outside the gym in front of his silver Mercedes, sporting sunglasses and white slip-on shoes
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/boston-marathon-bombing-tamerlan-tsarnaev-was-a-boxer-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-was-a-wrestler-both-were-terrorists-8580934.html
reformist2
(9,841 posts)jakeXT
(10,575 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)jakeXT
(10,575 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)OneMoreDemocrat
(913 posts)...which was small potatoes compared to his part in the Holocaust.
elfin
(6,262 posts)If the older brother became religiously radicalized AFTER he formed this reported friendship, he would have become totally intolerant of drugs and been aghast at his own previous use. So, kill those suppliers and witnesses to his past use.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)He spent six months there. Could it be he was hiding out there until he felt the smoke had cleared?
malaise
(267,823 posts)LisaL
(44,962 posts)His mother was still in US in 2012 (arrested for shoplifting).
Altough apparently she did visit Russia around that time, then came back.
Then went back again several months ago.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)The younger Tsarnaev is being described as a "stoner," somebody who was "really into marijuana."
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2013/04/29/130429ta_talk_remnick
When your high school friends say you are a stoner, you're probably a stoner. Indeed, what was earlier interpreted as the younger Tsarnaev's "smug" smile at the marathon looks more like, well, a stoned smile (or at least the kind I used to have at 19!):
Clearly, both the brothers have a propensity for violence. And isn't 2011 when the older brother starts to go off the rails?
Definitely is odd to have him in the same orbit, at least, of these unsolved murders.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)I looked up the date, and September 11, 2011 was a Sunday. Just speculating now, but... maybe Brendan invited Erik and Raphael and Tamerlan over for a couple of beers (and some weed - they all liked to smoke pot, it appears), and when the subject turned to the 10th anniversary of 9/11, things went horribly wrong...
Immabk
(8 posts)Rafi and Erik were Jews, maybe even Israelis or at the very least first gen Americans but definitely proud Jews.
Sept. 11,
Heavy, heavy, pot culture fanatics.
This could not have been a friendly gathering gone wrong though because the victims were all very athletic, mma fighters boxers and martial arts fanatics. they were restrained and tortured.
Pot strewn all over them.
Money not taken.
You got my little bro weed? and associate with jews? me and my Chechen budding terrorist cell gather to teach you all a lesson in Chechen morality!
Turborama
(22,109 posts)http://www.businessinsider.com/murder-of-brendan-mess-the-best-friend-of-boston-bombing-suspect-tamerlan-tsarnaev-2013-4#ixzz2R1tT0Ruw
Brothers in Marathon bombings took two paths into infamy
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/19/relatives-marathon-bombing-suspects-worried-that-older-brother-was-corrupting-sweet-younger-sibling/UCYHkiP9nfsjAtMjJPWJJL/story.html
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)But that sets off all kinds of alarms.
Whoa.
Knows the victims. Two suspects. Fast and accurate enough with his hands to stick three guys in the neck.
Baseless speculation, to be sure, but I'd put down a modest bet that at least the older brother is knee-deep in this triple homicide.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)Turborama
(22,109 posts)I reckon, as your broke it here, you could add updates to the OP regarding the latest news stories about this, too.
:kick:
B2G
(9,766 posts)and it was being used to manipulate him in some way.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)LisaL
(44,962 posts)Hopefully police continues to investigate the triple homicide.
Since they have not solved it to this day.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I don't really see that it is much of a stretch.