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(85,975 posts)
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 09:21 AM Apr 2013

Attention Seeking, Exploiting Morons (Enemy Combatant Court)

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BEFORE they know what happened Lindsey Graham & John McCain call for enemy combatant court..attention seeking, exploiting morons.

“Under the Law of War we can hold this suspect as a potential enemy combatant not entitled to Miranda warnings or the appointment of counsel,” the Republicans said in a statement released Friday night. “Our goal at this critical juncture should be to gather intelligence and protect our nation from further attacks. We remain under threat from radical Islam and we hope the Obama Administration will seriously consider the enemy combatant option.”


from David Weigel at Slate:

The "Enemy Combatant" Travesty

____ According to early reports, the administration isn't considering this. More importantly, though, what is Graham talking about?* Earlier in the week, when I was part of a scrum of reporters asking Maine Sen. Susan Collins what she thought about the case—before we had the name of a suspect—she said this:

If he’s an American, obviously, then the constitutional protections pertain. If he is a foreign national, in my view, then he should be held by a military tribunal.


Well, like it or not, he's an American. Even if the Obama administration embraced the concept of a war-on-terror enemy combatant, what evidence is there to suggest that Tsarnaev is one? The 2001 authorization of force, broad at it is, authorizies the president:

. . . to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.


Does that description apply to a 19-year-old naturalized citizen who (allegedly!) committed an act of terror that no international organization took credit for?

The "military tribunal" and "enemy combatant" crowd will have loud megaphones. If they're right, good for them; if they're wrong, they won't lose their microphones or pundit cards. That's fine. We can ignore them for now. This is a night (day) for Boston and the rule of law . . .


read article (+ good comment thread on miranda and the rest): http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/04/19/the_enemy_combatant_travesty.html
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Attention Seeking, Exploiting Morons (Enemy Combatant Court) (Original Post) bigtree Apr 2013 OP
Pete Williams reports: OKNancy Apr 2013 #1
I hate this sort of thing treestar Apr 2013 #2

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
1. Pete Williams reports:
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 09:36 AM
Apr 2013

Even if authorities determine that the Tsarnaevs received support from an overseas terrorist organization, the Obama administration official said the government will not seek to declare him an enemy combatant and try him before a military commission, as it has done with senior al Qaeda officials captured overseas and imprisoned at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp. Administration officials see that scenario as a non-starter, the official said, particularly given the fact that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is an American citizen, naturalized last September.

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/20/17832252-whats-next-the-interrogation-of-the-boston-bombing-suspect?lite

I think you are correct. THey can blubber all they want, but as the official said, " it's a non- starter"

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. I hate this sort of thing
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 09:39 AM
Apr 2013

People on this soil have the same rights. And this is an American citizen. And they have plenty of proof, so what are they whining on about?

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