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alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:49 AM Apr 2013

I think the terrorist turds realized there would be many, many pictures made of them. But...

...I don't think they had a real grip on understanding the power of a generation wired, exchanging pictures on the internet, and a childhood spent playing "Where's Waldo?"

Especially when you're wearing a damn white hat!

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I think the terrorist turds realized there would be many, many pictures made of them. But... (Original Post) alphafemale Apr 2013 OP
Sometimes people get so caught up in what they're doing madokie Apr 2013 #1
They planned the carnage but clearly had no getaway play malaise Apr 2013 #2
I'm going to go out on a limb and say SheilaT Apr 2013 #3
Amateur disguises are obvious. alphafemale Apr 2013 #5
Terrorist Turds, I like that. geomon666 Apr 2013 #4
I think the older one didn't really care Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #6
"Exchanging pictures on the internet" put a lot of sufrommich Apr 2013 #7
That was cleared up within hours. Once the real pics were out there tho....BAM alphafemale Apr 2013 #8
I think they had a fantasist mindset. CJCRANE Apr 2013 #9
Do we have any evidence that "exchanging pictures on the internet" was involved? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #10
This. Most sites like reddit and others sufrommich Apr 2013 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #12
You didn't see the other picture I take it. alphafemale Apr 2013 #13
And what did this other picture do? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #14
It is a warning to all these would be shits. alphafemale Apr 2013 #15
So the answer to "what did this picture do?" seems to be "nothing at all" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #19
Please post a link to the picture of "white hat running...dark hat behind" alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #16
dark hat is suspect 1. alphafemale Apr 2013 #17
Post that picture alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #18
yawn. you bore me alphafemale Apr 2013 #20
The truth is boring to some people, I guess, which is the problem alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #21
Yes, please post this picture, since it's vital to your point (nt) muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #22

madokie

(51,076 posts)
1. Sometimes people get so caught up in what they're doing
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:50 AM
Apr 2013

they lose sight of reality. These two fits that or to me it seems to be anyway.

splchk

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
3. I'm going to go out on a limb and say
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:53 AM
Apr 2013

it never occurred to them there would be so many cameras there.

That's not the kind of thing I think about, even though I'm not planning to place bombs anywhere. Maybe after this I'll be aware of that, but I'm still not planning to place bombs anywhere.

And maybe future potential bombers will simply do a better job of disguising themselves.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
5. Amateur disguises are obvious.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:57 AM
Apr 2013

It would take levels beyond the reach of most to wear a disguise and blend with a group.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
6. I think the older one didn't really care
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 09:02 AM
Apr 2013

He deliberately, dramatically ran into a hail of gunfire from what I understand. I think he was prepared to go out as a 'martyr' or whatever.

Just a feeling, I really have no idea. I just get this sense that he was more deeply 'in it' and the younger one was kinda along for the ride with big bro. If he were willing to die for this cause, whatever it is, he'd be dead.

I wonder if we'll ever know.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
7. "Exchanging pictures on the internet" put a lot of
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 09:03 AM
Apr 2013

innocent people in potential danger from hysterical theories being brewed on internet sites about who the terrorists were. It was hardly a shining moment in internet vigilantism.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
9. I think they had a fantasist mindset.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 09:10 AM
Apr 2013

Most people with that mindset are pretty harmless, they dream of the big break, the big act that will make them a famous actor or singer or a rich investor.

They invest so much of their personality into that one big event that they think will solve their problems or make them special or famous that they don't have the mental energy to think beyond it.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,310 posts)
10. Do we have any evidence that "exchanging pictures on the internet" was involved?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 09:14 AM
Apr 2013

From what I've read, a victim, once he came out of sedation, gave a description of the younger brother placing the bomb. So the authorities searched the video, and they put out the pictures - not just on the internet, but on TV too.

The MIT cop was responding to reports of a disturbance when he was shot - though it seems the 7-11 robbery wasn't by them. Nothing to do with the internet, as far as I can tell. Then they took an SUV, and the police chased it.

So where did the 'wired generation' come into it?

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
11. This. Most sites like reddit and others
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 09:21 AM
Apr 2013

were playing detective and a review of most internet sites heavily invested in "solving" the case shows many shamelessly accusing innocent people of being terrorists.

Response to sufrommich (Reply #11)

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
13. You didn't see the other picture I take it.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 09:33 AM
Apr 2013

White hat running. Dark hat behind. Sans backpacks.

No one put much credibility in the pre FBI pictures. Curiosity maybe.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,310 posts)
14. And what did this other picture do?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 10:13 AM
Apr 2013

"No one put much credibility in the pre FBI pictures. Curiosity maybe. "

Apart from the internet, that is (including several DUers, with comments like "looks like the Unabomber to me" and "doesn't look like a running fan&quot . And the New York Daily News.

So you seems to be saying that, after the FBI put out their pictures, someone found the same people in their own pictures. What did finding them in the other picture lead to?

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
15. It is a warning to all these would be shits.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 10:58 AM
Apr 2013

We have thousands of eyes that never blink.

And we will find you.

You will die a quick, humiliating death.

Or you will live out the rest of your days in a cage...asshole.

Your choice.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,310 posts)
19. So the answer to "what did this picture do?" seems to be "nothing at all"
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:51 AM
Apr 2013

since you didn't answer the question. The FBI picture, obtained from a witness description and professional detective work, was what got them identified.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
16. Please post a link to the picture of "white hat running...dark hat behind"
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:04 AM
Apr 2013

It is as clear an indictment of your point as can be, since the person pegged by the "Internet" as being "Dark Hat" in the picture you're referring to is NOT Tamerlan Tsarnaev at all, but an older Asian man trying to get away from the scene.

Seriously, post the picture with "dark hat behind" so everybody can see jut how foolishly the great Internet detectives behaved in the past week.

When you're done with that, feel free to issue an apology any time to the family of Sunil Tripathi. You know, on behalf of the Internet.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
17. dark hat is suspect 1.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:15 AM
Apr 2013

older brother now well ventilated and run over by vehicle by younger brother suspect 2 - now in custody who cowered and bled under a boat tarp.

pay attention

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
18. Post that picture
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:24 AM
Apr 2013

Do it.

You pay attention: "dark hat" is Tamerlan Tsarnaev, or suspect #1. He does not appear in the picture with suspect #2 (his younger brother) turning the corner off Boylston street. There is no "dark hat behind" as you claim.

You're flat wrong.

Ohh, and that apology for the Tripathi's? Pay attention indeed. You don't even know what you're talking about.

Post the picture. Show us Dark Hat behind. Show us.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
21. The truth is boring to some people, I guess, which is the problem
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:33 PM
Apr 2013

Not even going to try to post that picture, huih? You probably went looking for that picture and realized you were wrong.

Here's what you said: "You didn't see the other picture I take it. White hat running. Dark hat behind. Sans backpacks."

Where's the picture? There is only one picture of "white hat running" that's made the rounds. Here it is, so everybody can see just how wrong you are:



The man turning the corner is very obviously Suspect #2, or "white hat," or, as we know now, Dzhohkar Tsarnaev. But, the brilliant minds on the Internet decided that the man near the stroller, next to the woman in pink is his brother, "dark hat" guy, suspect #1, Tamerlen Tsarnaev. This is what alphafemale means by "White hat running. Dark hat behind...." So, simple question: is that Tamerlen Tsarnaev, Suspect #1, next to the woman with the pink jacket? yes or no? True or false?

Let's make it easy: go to the actual article, then click on the link at the bottom, then open up the high res version. Here, I'll make it easy: http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/18/new-higher-resolution-image-of-boston-marathon-suspect-emerges/

Now, is that guy next to the woman with the pink jacket Tamerlen Tsarnaev, or not?

Obviously. Not.

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