Here's an observation about the Boston situation...

[brooklynite]

The suspect was captured using LAW ENFORCEMENT tactics.

He will be tried in a CIVILIAN COURT.

And he will be convicted.

And the answer from the members of Congress who barred moving Guantanamo detainees to the United States will be....?

[NightWatcher]

1. Crimes...solved by cops....

Whodathunk it? We didn't need drones or the traditional military.

[Raine1967]

2. Excellent observation.

I think you are onto something.

[Riftaxe]

3. Captured on foreign soil in a theatre of combat

Surely you are not one of those who thinks your freedom of speech lasts a millimeter further then the Canadian/Mexican/International waters borders? Why would you assume other protections last further then that.


We could go to the Geneva convention protocols, but the results are a bit unfavorable for people caught engaging in combat out of uniform....

[Fumesucker]

4. Are you saying that the US government can interfere with citizen's speech if they are outside the US

Constitutionally I mean.

Because that's what your post sound like to me.

[Riftaxe]

5. Interesting question

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If a US citizen is outside of US jurisdiction when making that speech, I don't off the top of my head see a remedy as long as the person remains outside.

I guess the question comes down to, can the US punish a citizen for extraterritorial speech. I honestly do not know the answer to that one.

on edit: i doubt they could, but it is fascinating as it would involve the state invoking privileges that have never been mentioned in any treaty i know of. I would not bet against an elected prosecutor from trying though.

However; I do not see the 1st protecting a US citizen from extradition for violating a foreign power's law which is entitled to prosecute under treaty if they have jurisdiction.....I guess there really is not get out of jail free card.

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

6. This guy got 20 years...

After he was brought back to the states.

Did he do what he "confessed" to? Did he just not want to be executed? Who will ever get this mans story out to the world?
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/people/shows/walker/profile.html

[Riftaxe]

7. He pled guilty to aiding and abetting enemy forces in a combat theatre

and carrying arms against US citizens employed while under the status of US soldiery?

Why would i not take his word for it? Confessing is hardly the way to avoid punishment, alleviate, yes...avoid...not so much.

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

9. When he joined the group he joined, they were not fighting the U.S.

That developed later, and I think he just got caught up in a situation beyond what he thought would be. But I have to honor he went in search of spiritual understanding. I have no idea what led him to join a militia. The article states he can not benefit financially from telling his story, but I hope he tells it.

[HiPointDem]

8. how come the US has 'jurisdiction' to bomb & assassinate in foreign territory then?

[Amonester]

10. They 'ask' for permission first, I guess, sometimes on invitation,

and sometimes (cheney/bush/rumsferatu): phuck it, "we're taking him out"

[freshwest]

11. Answer same as it's always been - they're Obama's Islamic Army.

This has been a consistent rant from RWNJs and the idiots they voted in since 2008.

These clowns are still making laws in the state legislatures to prevent the use of stateside housing for trials here and keep voting against necessary funding to change things. They control the purse, in DC and the states, and we have to face that a law or an executive order without money to enact is a dead one.

They will continue to do this crap until they are all voted out of office, period. EOM.