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(171,054 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)Of course, it is not quite the same headline as you have, but you nailed it.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Would love to see that as a kyron on FAUX News.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)benld74
(9,904 posts)DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)benld74
(9,904 posts)DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)benld74
(9,904 posts)dad was union, I still am.
ellie
(6,929 posts)an explosion like that.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)mercymechap
(579 posts)to do that, I'm wondering how much they would charge!
Ford_Prefect
(7,876 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)Great post! Kudos to the Boston PD!
CBHagman
(16,984 posts)And kudos to law enforcement for their perseverance, and to the community for their patience.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)calimary
(81,194 posts)WOW!
Thank you to all our police and first responders. They run into burning buildings and face down the bad guys - so you don't have to.
Crabby Appleton
(5,231 posts)captured him.
joesdaughter
(243 posts)We should privatize law enforcement Let the free market ... never mind.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)...or not.
demosincebirth
(12,536 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)demosincebirth
(12,536 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)cliffordu
(30,994 posts)K&R!!!
golfguru
(4,987 posts)without her tip, the cops would still be looking for the 2nd suspect and collecting double time.
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)There's plenty of heroism out there, and plenty to go around.
I can't even imagine what it must have been like in the earlier stand-off, how many cops in Boston put their lives on the line?
tclambert
(11,085 posts)I bet John Galt would have . . . not.
golfguru
(4,987 posts)since she could see the blood on the boat from the house.
She could have called the local police station and the usual response
time of 15 minutes by 2 cops could be sufficient to overpower a wounded
perpetrator.
My point is the thousand cops in Watertown did not find the perp, it was an ordinary citizen's tip. I watch reality cop shows regularly, and overwhelming number'of crimes are solved by tips, not directly by cops finding the culprit.
2/3rds of murders never get solved if I recall the statistics correctly.
That said, I still have lot of respect for the cops for protecting the citizens.
They indeed face being shot every time they step out on the streets.
Beer Swiller
(44 posts)In order to catch one 19 year old kid hiding under a tarp over a boat in some guy's back yard? How many people lost a couple of days pay? How many street vendors lost hundreds of dollars in income? How much did Boston Transit, or whatever it's called, lose? How many small businesses took a major hit? How many single mothers lost money for rent or food because the schools were closed and they had to stay home with their kids? Or single fathers? Or poor people in general?
Just how much damage could this 19 year old immigrant have really done? THINK about it.
I do not like this police state response. In time, I don't think many Bostonians will, either.
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)...considering the arsenal those guys had put together, one way or another the police seem to have done a great job of minimizing loss and wrapping it up quickly. A worst case would have been not catching or ID'ing them quickly. Played out over weeks like the beltway shooters it would have been one long nightmare for everyone the city.
Beer Swiller
(44 posts)...and neither do you. What damage could he have possibly have done? Another two lives? Three? None?
Was it really worth shutting down Boston? These are police state tactics to the max, man. Or whatever you are. I don't think it's worth it. Think of the precedent that's been set. All you have to do is set off a bomb or shoot a couple of people and the ENTIRE CITY is shut down for days? No public transportation. No school. No commerce. Until The Evildoers are Caught.
This is not intelligent thinking going on, here.
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)cheers
octothorpe
(962 posts)*edit* dammit, I just replied right after posting this...
Beer Swiller
(44 posts)Never even got an interview. Pity.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)It was because you were deemed incompetent.
NBachers
(17,098 posts)Dude, or whatever you are, check out the response of the entire city of Boston. Power to the Expression of the People.
Go to Boston, walk into a few bars or public gathering celebrations, and start preaching your manifesto.
You'll be hailed as a visionary hero, man! (or whatever you are)
RGinNJ
(1,019 posts)bigmonkey
(1,798 posts)I find this telling. Saving people's lives and following the law is too expensive? Really?
Beer Swiller
(44 posts)At all. I really don't know how to talk to people like you who do not understand what it is like to lose a day's pay.
octothorpe
(962 posts)LSK
(36,846 posts)Try knowing facts next time.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022713665
Squinch
(50,935 posts)As has been posted over and over, this was not a police state response. It was a request by the police department which was agreed to by the majority of the population.
And how much damage could the 19 year old immigrant have done? You mean with his brother with the explosives strapped to his body or without? You mean before he shot the security officer and the transit officer or after? You mean with the explosives that were found in his home or without them?
You think about it.
eggplant
(3,911 posts)How much damage could he have done? Are you kidding me?
This a**hole and his brother were running around hurling IEDs out of a jacked car and had already killed one cop last night and wounded another, not to mention that little bombing thing on Monday. He wasn't going to stop all on his own.
This was handled in an incredibly efficient manner. And personally, I think the vast majority of Bostonians will stand up and applaud the professionalism and quick reactions of all of the cops, first responders, and everyone else who came together to stand up to these f*ckers.
I know I will.
appacom
(296 posts)to all the folks who died and suffered at the hands of that kid, and the hundreds who wished they'd had the chance to stay indoors.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)He was a citizen.
He was captured safely and professionally.
Boston is cheering for law enforcement tonight on a job well done.
karynnj
(59,501 posts)Not to mention, the people out in the streets cheering look proud of their city.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Whoever you are. Wherever you are. You're just jealous and trying to find something to piss and moan about. As usual.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)....right wing radio around here is already whining about everything in the reponse, from Obama, to Gov. Patrick, to the evil public employees....
Feel free to join them.
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Aristus
(66,310 posts)Probably a lot more if the city had just gone about its business as usual, giving the guy plenty of potential cover for a getaway, and/or access to more victims.
Sober up and use your brain for more than a booze-sponge...
El Shaman
(583 posts)...beer swilling on your part dude!!!
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,012 posts)Robb
(39,665 posts)El Shaman
(583 posts)...some of the Colonies wanted a different language , from the Crown's language and even German and Latin were tossed about, this is how they felt , about separation from the ingles.
Massachusetts, was, one of the first colonies to kick English @ss!
Take care amigo and A DIOS !
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)caseymoz
(5,763 posts)I think they might lost more civilians than in the bombing if it had.
I was just watching CNN and I'm pretty sure they fired a couple thousand rounds at that boat. Was that thing bullet proof or did they just light a roll of blackcats trying to scare him out of there?
caledesi
(11,903 posts)DebJ
(7,699 posts)sarcasm
Zax2me
(2,515 posts)The guy that found him in his boat?
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)and ask for THEM to take care of the bloody kid in his boat? I had no idea we had a citizen's arrest in this case.
Trascoli
(194 posts)Lets say they make 50K a year, which is pretty good. They need a 5k bonus tonight. Who wouldn't like a 5k bonus? These guys deserve it. Thanks Boston PD, my families heart to yours!!
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)k and r
madokie
(51,076 posts)66 dmhlt
(1,941 posts)God Be with Us as He Was with Our Fathers
CIVITATIS REGIMINE DONATA A.D. 1822
City Status Granted by the Authority of the State in the Year of Our Lord 1822
BOSTONIA. CONDITA A.D. 1630
Boston, Founded in the Year of Our Lord 1630
http://www.universalhub.com/node/22075
michigandem58
(1,044 posts)Just sayin'.
SwissTony
(2,560 posts)I'm not from Boston. I'm not even American.
But I can recognise heroes.
unionthug
(28 posts)"Union Thugs" do so much of the fundamental work in this society, but, despite that, are lambasted too often. I'm an educator, not a law enforcement person, but I very much appreciate this recognition.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)corporate hooligans any day of the week.
Blue Owl
(50,347 posts)mzmolly
(50,985 posts)thread title!