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Union Thugs Capture Boston Bombing Suspect. (Original Post) JaneyVee Apr 2013 OP
LOVE!!!!!! nt babylonsister Apr 2013 #1
And the world applauds. Curmudgeoness Apr 2013 #2
+1! sheshe2 Apr 2013 #3
Awesome! cui bono Apr 2013 #4
You win the internets for today, Janey! hifiguy Apr 2013 #5
Paid with overly high taxes nt benld74 Apr 2013 #6
Would you rather have the job? DainBramaged Apr 2013 #7
Oh heck no, I'm applauding all they have done and chastising the too high tax crowd, believe me! benld74 Apr 2013 #10
Really? DainBramaged Apr 2013 #12
yup yup benld74 Apr 2013 #79
I don't think I could run into ellie Apr 2013 #22
Really? Hissyspit Apr 2013 #9
seems likely it was offered in the same ironic spirit as the "union thugs" of the OP fishwax Apr 2013 #46
Well, that's good to hear. Hissyspit Apr 2013 #47
Fabulous!!!! valerief Apr 2013 #8
Outstanding - if we had to rely on a private company mercymechap Apr 2013 #11
Just ask Blackwater, err, Xe Services...oops, I mean Academi. Ford_Prefect Apr 2013 #16
K&R MissDeeds Apr 2013 #13
Great thread title! CBHagman Apr 2013 #14
Did they really? I've been out and just got home to find out about the capture! Yay!nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #15
Same here! WOW! Police work. calimary Apr 2013 #17
The FBI HRT Crabby Appleton Apr 2013 #18
But, but joesdaughter Apr 2013 #19
Yeah! Let the "Invisible Hand" grab them! KansDem Apr 2013 #60
I thought it was an ATF agent demosincebirth Apr 2013 #20
Feds are unionized too. n/t BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #24
Not referring to union membership. demosincebirth Apr 2013 #26
If you ignore the OP's picture and go by the OP subject, then your assertion fits. n/t BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #27
Three cheers for Boston and Union Thugs! WTG! freshwest Apr 2013 #21
GREAT post!!! cliffordu Apr 2013 #23
The real hero is the woman who called police after noticing blood on her boat golfguru Apr 2013 #25
True, but without the police, she'd have a tough time taking him down herself bhikkhu Apr 2013 #29
Under the Libertarian dream, she would have had the responsibility to capture him. tclambert Apr 2013 #62
The perp was obviously bleeding badly golfguru Apr 2013 #69
Was it really necessary to lock down an entire American city? Beer Swiller Apr 2013 #28
How many people didn't die? bhikkhu Apr 2013 #32
I don't know what weapons the 19 year old had at his disposal... Beer Swiller Apr 2013 #34
Well, get a job there and maybe they'll put you in charge of the next one bhikkhu Apr 2013 #35
I was going to respond to his post, but I suspect it's someone trying to rile people up... octothorpe Apr 2013 #39
I applied. Unfortunately, I wasn't related to the right people. Beer Swiller Apr 2013 #43
It wasn't because of your relations alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #45
Then why aren't the people of Boston throwing beer bottles at the cops and chasing 'em away? NBachers Apr 2013 #49
The "lock down" was voluntary. RGinNJ Apr 2013 #52
Your post is mainly concerned with money. bigmonkey Apr 2013 #33
You. Do Not. Understand. Beer Swiller Apr 2013 #36
I'm with ya,man. I'd rather my neighbor die than me miss a day of work... octothorpe Apr 2013 #40
what are you talking about? LSK Apr 2013 #38
I'm sure that, had you been there and wanted to walk around, you would have been welcomed to. Squinch Apr 2013 #41
Yes, it was. eggplant Apr 2013 #42
Are you kidding? This 19 year old kid was toting weapons of mass destruction. Tell that appacom Apr 2013 #50
Bostonians are fine with it Marrah_G Apr 2013 #53
Then why was it the people I KNOW to be from Massachusetts, defending it? karynnj Apr 2013 #55
They took a day, got the job done. Period. You could not do better. DevonRex Apr 2013 #58
You don't have to wait.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2013 #68
This post was alerted on. The jury being of sound mind voted to let it stand 6/0! ohiosmith Apr 2013 #72
How much of that beer have you been swilling? Aristus Apr 2013 #73
Too much... El Shaman Apr 2013 #74
how come that badge isn't in English? LiberalElite Apr 2013 #30
... FailureToCommunicate Apr 2013 #37
LOL nice Robb Apr 2013 #71
During the revolution... El Shaman Apr 2013 #75
kick! BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2013 #31
I'm glad this didn't happen in LA. caseymoz Apr 2013 #44
No kidding Mr.Pain Apr 2013 #48
Yeah, it was "Them Union Thugs!" caledesi Apr 2013 #51
And they are gubment employee scum bags living high off the hog on top of that! DebJ Apr 2013 #54
The homeowner is a union member? Zax2me Apr 2013 #56
Really? The homeowner didn't call the union thugs... Oilwellian Apr 2013 #65
These guys deserve a raise after tonight. How much do they make? Trascoli Apr 2013 #57
Great job. Sleep lo-o-o-o-n-g and well tonight. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #59
Salute to the cops Berlum Apr 2013 #61
Bring back the unions madokie Apr 2013 #63
In case someone wanted the tranlation ... 66 dmhlt Apr 2013 #64
Union thugs that support the GOP michigandem58 Apr 2013 #66
Thank you for my new Windows wallpaperf. SwissTony Apr 2013 #67
Thanks for this reality check unionthug Apr 2013 #70
I'll take union thugs over gejohnston Apr 2013 #76
Union YES Blue Owl Apr 2013 #77
Awesome mzmolly Apr 2013 #78

mercymechap

(579 posts)
11. Outstanding - if we had to rely on a private company
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:05 PM
Apr 2013

to do that, I'm wondering how much they would charge!

CBHagman

(16,984 posts)
14. Great thread title!
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:22 PM
Apr 2013

And kudos to law enforcement for their perseverance, and to the community for their patience.

calimary

(81,194 posts)
17. Same here! WOW! Police work.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:26 PM
Apr 2013

WOW!

Thank you to all our police and first responders. They run into burning buildings and face down the bad guys - so you don't have to.

 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
25. The real hero is the woman who called police after noticing blood on her boat
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:41 PM
Apr 2013

without her tip, the cops would still be looking for the 2nd suspect and collecting double time.

bhikkhu

(10,715 posts)
29. True, but without the police, she'd have a tough time taking him down herself
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:50 PM
Apr 2013

There's plenty of heroism out there, and plenty to go around.

I can't even imagine what it must have been like in the earlier stand-off, how many cops in Boston put their lives on the line?

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
62. Under the Libertarian dream, she would have had the responsibility to capture him.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 07:12 AM
Apr 2013

I bet John Galt would have . . . not.

 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
69. The perp was obviously bleeding badly
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 02:48 PM
Apr 2013

since she could see the blood on the boat from the house.
She could have called the local police station and the usual response
time of 15 minutes by 2 cops could be sufficient to overpower a wounded
perpetrator.

My point is the thousand cops in Watertown did not find the perp, it was an ordinary citizen's tip. I watch reality cop shows regularly, and overwhelming number'of crimes are solved by tips, not directly by cops finding the culprit.

2/3rds of murders never get solved if I recall the statistics correctly.

That said, I still have lot of respect for the cops for protecting the citizens.
They indeed face being shot every time they step out on the streets.

 

Beer Swiller

(44 posts)
28. Was it really necessary to lock down an entire American city?
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:48 PM
Apr 2013

In order to catch one 19 year old kid hiding under a tarp over a boat in some guy's back yard? How many people lost a couple of days pay? How many street vendors lost hundreds of dollars in income? How much did Boston Transit, or whatever it's called, lose? How many small businesses took a major hit? How many single mothers lost money for rent or food because the schools were closed and they had to stay home with their kids? Or single fathers? Or poor people in general?

Just how much damage could this 19 year old immigrant have really done? THINK about it.

I do not like this police state response. In time, I don't think many Bostonians will, either.

bhikkhu

(10,715 posts)
32. How many people didn't die?
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:55 PM
Apr 2013

...considering the arsenal those guys had put together, one way or another the police seem to have done a great job of minimizing loss and wrapping it up quickly. A worst case would have been not catching or ID'ing them quickly. Played out over weeks like the beltway shooters it would have been one long nightmare for everyone the city.

 

Beer Swiller

(44 posts)
34. I don't know what weapons the 19 year old had at his disposal...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:06 PM
Apr 2013

...and neither do you. What damage could he have possibly have done? Another two lives? Three? None?

Was it really worth shutting down Boston? These are police state tactics to the max, man. Or whatever you are. I don't think it's worth it. Think of the precedent that's been set. All you have to do is set off a bomb or shoot a couple of people and the ENTIRE CITY is shut down for days? No public transportation. No school. No commerce. Until The Evildoers are Caught.

This is not intelligent thinking going on, here.

octothorpe

(962 posts)
39. I was going to respond to his post, but I suspect it's someone trying to rile people up...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:25 PM
Apr 2013

*edit* dammit, I just replied right after posting this...

NBachers

(17,098 posts)
49. Then why aren't the people of Boston throwing beer bottles at the cops and chasing 'em away?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:27 AM
Apr 2013

Dude, or whatever you are, check out the response of the entire city of Boston. Power to the Expression of the People.

Go to Boston, walk into a few bars or public gathering celebrations, and start preaching your manifesto.

You'll be hailed as a visionary hero, man! (or whatever you are)

bigmonkey

(1,798 posts)
33. Your post is mainly concerned with money.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:00 PM
Apr 2013

I find this telling. Saving people's lives and following the law is too expensive? Really?

 

Beer Swiller

(44 posts)
36. You. Do Not. Understand.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:17 PM
Apr 2013

At all. I really don't know how to talk to people like you who do not understand what it is like to lose a day's pay.

Squinch

(50,935 posts)
41. I'm sure that, had you been there and wanted to walk around, you would have been welcomed to.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:29 PM
Apr 2013

As has been posted over and over, this was not a police state response. It was a request by the police department which was agreed to by the majority of the population.

And how much damage could the 19 year old immigrant have done? You mean with his brother with the explosives strapped to his body or without? You mean before he shot the security officer and the transit officer or after? You mean with the explosives that were found in his home or without them?

You think about it.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
42. Yes, it was.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:29 PM
Apr 2013

How much damage could he have done? Are you kidding me?

This a**hole and his brother were running around hurling IEDs out of a jacked car and had already killed one cop last night and wounded another, not to mention that little bombing thing on Monday. He wasn't going to stop all on his own.

This was handled in an incredibly efficient manner. And personally, I think the vast majority of Bostonians will stand up and applaud the professionalism and quick reactions of all of the cops, first responders, and everyone else who came together to stand up to these f*ckers.

I know I will.

appacom

(296 posts)
50. Are you kidding? This 19 year old kid was toting weapons of mass destruction. Tell that
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:31 AM
Apr 2013

to all the folks who died and suffered at the hands of that kid, and the hundreds who wished they'd had the chance to stay indoors.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
53. Bostonians are fine with it
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:34 AM
Apr 2013

He was a citizen.

He was captured safely and professionally.

Boston is cheering for law enforcement tonight on a job well done.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
55. Then why was it the people I KNOW to be from Massachusetts, defending it?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:41 AM
Apr 2013

Not to mention, the people out in the streets cheering look proud of their city.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
58. They took a day, got the job done. Period. You could not do better.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:47 AM
Apr 2013

Whoever you are. Wherever you are. You're just jealous and trying to find something to piss and moan about. As usual.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
68. You don't have to wait....
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:20 PM
Apr 2013

....right wing radio around here is already whining about everything in the reponse, from Obama, to Gov. Patrick, to the evil public employees....

Feel free to join them.

ohiosmith

(24,262 posts)
72. This post was alerted on. The jury being of sound mind voted to let it stand 6/0!
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 02:59 PM
Apr 2013

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Aristus

(66,310 posts)
73. How much of that beer have you been swilling?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 02:59 PM
Apr 2013
"Just how much damage could this 19 year old immigrant have really done?"

Probably a lot more if the city had just gone about its business as usual, giving the guy plenty of potential cover for a getaway, and/or access to more victims.

Sober up and use your brain for more than a booze-sponge...

El Shaman

(583 posts)
75. During the revolution...
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 03:56 PM
Apr 2013

...some of the Colonies wanted a different language , from the Crown's language and even German and Latin were tossed about, this is how they felt , about separation from the ingles.

Massachusetts, was, one of the first colonies to kick English @ss!

Take care amigo and A DIOS !

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
44. I'm glad this didn't happen in LA.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:45 PM
Apr 2013

I think they might lost more civilians than in the bombing if it had.

Mr.Pain

(52 posts)
48. No kidding
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:08 AM
Apr 2013

I was just watching CNN and I'm pretty sure they fired a couple thousand rounds at that boat. Was that thing bullet proof or did they just light a roll of blackcats trying to scare him out of there?

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
65. Really? The homeowner didn't call the union thugs...
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 09:39 AM
Apr 2013

and ask for THEM to take care of the bloody kid in his boat? I had no idea we had a citizen's arrest in this case.

 

Trascoli

(194 posts)
57. These guys deserve a raise after tonight. How much do they make?
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:44 AM
Apr 2013

Lets say they make 50K a year, which is pretty good. They need a 5k bonus tonight. Who wouldn't like a 5k bonus? These guys deserve it. Thanks Boston PD, my families heart to yours!!

66 dmhlt

(1,941 posts)
64. In case someone wanted the tranlation ...
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 07:46 AM
Apr 2013
SICUT PATRIBUS SIT DEUS NOBIS.
God Be with Us as He Was with Our Fathers

CIVITATIS REGIMINE DONATA A.D. 1822
City Status Granted by the Authority of the State in the Year of Our Lord 1822

BOSTONIA. CONDITA A.D. 1630
Boston, Founded in the Year of Our Lord 1630

http://www.universalhub.com/node/22075

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
67. Thank you for my new Windows wallpaperf.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:17 PM
Apr 2013

I'm not from Boston. I'm not even American.

But I can recognise heroes.

unionthug

(28 posts)
70. Thanks for this reality check
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 02:50 PM
Apr 2013

"Union Thugs" do so much of the fundamental work in this society, but, despite that, are lambasted too often. I'm an educator, not a law enforcement person, but I very much appreciate this recognition.

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