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Is anybody looking for the asshole whose plant blew up a WHOLE TOWN in TX? (Original Post) elehhhhna Apr 2013 OP
I hadn't heard that he was missing. Leslie Valley Apr 2013 #1
Capitalism views deaths in the line of business an unfortunate consequence. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #108
Naw, he did it for PROFIT, not god. Warpy Apr 2013 #2
I hope they have a loooooong wait on that check from Washington. Cruz and Perry...Ugh... monmouth3 Apr 2013 #3
thanks, bozo, from all us purple and blue texans elehhhhna Apr 2013 #5
No rules, no regs, no safety checks. Please..."Bozo???"...LOL... monmouth3 Apr 2013 #7
look, mon, elehhhhna Apr 2013 #10
And I certainly understand. What I'm trying to say is that much of this appears monmouth3 Apr 2013 #11
What you're missing is, if it was self inflicted, the owner would have been blown up Dragonfli Apr 2013 #55
+ 1. truedelphi Apr 2013 #78
The way it always is and always has been under.... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #82
They appear sometimes to go out of their way to prove Marx correct Dragonfli Apr 2013 #95
Because the ownership class has hifiguy Apr 2013 #88
Sorry- somethingshiny Apr 2013 #62
I agree... bozo is apt. LanternWaste Apr 2013 #91
oh honey - so sorry about your friend elehhhhna Apr 2013 #99
Willie Nelson - my fave Texan since Molly Ivins left us - to the rescue SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2013 #70
Willie is one of the truly good people out there. hifiguy Apr 2013 #89
5th generation Texan here. I would so agree except that real humans efhmc Apr 2013 #41
I don't Gore1FL Apr 2013 #45
A guy I work with said, "Yeah, but the Boston guys did what they did intentionally. valerief Apr 2013 #4
has neglect Niceguy1 Apr 2013 #13
Oh, if only it had been raining guns. nt valerief Apr 2013 #35
No safety inspections since '85. What do you think? Safety first prevents horrors like this. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #58
I work for the Niceguy1 Apr 2013 #76
I submit that neglect was not proven because corruption likely kept out Dragonfli Apr 2013 #87
Many European countries outlawed the type of fertilizer in Texas for 40 years. snagglepuss Apr 2013 #109
All part and parcel... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #80
Bingo! Texas, the U.S. Somalia. nt valerief Apr 2013 #100
He isn't missing. LisaL Apr 2013 #6
funny - haven't seen the media chasing him down. elehhhhna Apr 2013 #8
I just read an interview with him. LisaL Apr 2013 #16
link? thx elehhhhna Apr 2013 #19
Link LeftInTX Apr 2013 #59
Is he running around with guns and bombs? Marrah_G Apr 2013 #9
no, his safety-proof plant was stationary elehhhhna Apr 2013 #12
No, his unsafe factory was more of an IED, it was stationary, so no running around needed. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #61
Well that's why there isn't a manhunt for him Marrah_G Apr 2013 #63
Because he didn't run around with it? Weird logic. But OK. Some mine owners need your help Dragonfli Apr 2013 #72
~facepalm~ Marrah_G Apr 2013 #74
I think you are strange and a little silly, a tragedy is a tragedy, it is not a competition Dragonfli Apr 2013 #79
Good question! Rex Apr 2013 #14
that fuckwit's in Cali this week drumming up biz - elehhhhna Apr 2013 #17
I agree I think he cheated. Rex Apr 2013 #20
I would posit that's because nobody wants to admit to voting for him mythology Apr 2013 #104
Is anyone going to post that the Boston bombing mzmolly Apr 2013 #15
nobody ever posted that elehhhhna Apr 2013 #18
You said mzmolly Apr 2013 #27
wrong elehhhhna Apr 2013 #30
And, now you're suggesting that we shouldn't look mzmolly Apr 2013 #57
your reading comprehension needs a lot of work elehhhhna Apr 2013 #64
Your sensitivity meter, mzmolly Apr 2013 #67
you don't know where the lines are, silly elehhhhna Apr 2013 #69
Are you a ventriloquist? the poster said no such thing, throwing your voice into her mouth is cool. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #65
Oh I'm sorry. Is the person she's talking about actually mzmolly Apr 2013 #66
It is not her fault that you can't read very well, reread the OP Dragonfli Apr 2013 #75
"Is anybody looking for the asshole whose plant blew up a WHOLE TOWN in TX?" mzmolly Apr 2013 #93
The implication is clear "someone should round up this asshole whose plant blew up a town" Dragonfli Apr 2013 #102
He's at home, no? mzmolly Apr 2013 #103
sure are a lot of straw men out tonight. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #83
Indeed the OP is a straw man. mzmolly Apr 2013 #94
actually i was referring to the stink of the undead coming from your own post. they live! HiPointDem Apr 2013 #96
Nopointdem mzmolly Apr 2013 #106
they live! HiPointDem Apr 2013 #107
He's here: just gave statement Hissyspit Apr 2013 #21
aw, he's sad. Oh, and he'll "never forget". elehhhhna Apr 2013 #22
Playing "Hearts and Flowers" on a violin right now. Wednesdays Apr 2013 #25
Is he going to pony up cold hard cash SoCalDem Apr 2013 #39
Going out on a limb here,just taking a wild guess and saying... Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2013 #51
He will put up a nickel in cash the day hifiguy Apr 2013 #98
He is heartbroken... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #81
The WHOLE TOWN wasn't blown up NoPasaran Apr 2013 #23
Yum! Kolache! Cleita Apr 2013 #42
I'd like to find a recipe for authentic rectangular kolachen. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #47
Yep that's what friend's grandma used to make. No recipe though. :) Cleita Apr 2013 #49
kolaches are not the cookies - elehhhhna Apr 2013 #52
Not really sweet either. Look like a rectangular dinner roll. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #53
Not in Texas. texanwitch Apr 2013 #56
Is he missing? On the run? Lex Apr 2013 #24
No. See post #21. Hissyspit Apr 2013 #29
That person should spend time a LONG time in jail as well. Life w/ out parole. glowing Apr 2013 #26
2 guys who worked on Macondo are going to trial soon. elehhhhna Apr 2013 #32
Typical.. Just like the Army personnel at Abu Grahb caught with pics of Iraqi jailed persons. glowing Apr 2013 #40
You mean Mr. Donald Adair of Adair Grain, Inc. of West, Texas? Cleita Apr 2013 #28
oops! my bad! now give me tax dollars to build a new plant in same place. ZRT2209 Apr 2013 #31
don't forget fema $ elehhhhna Apr 2013 #33
And then we will secede. nt Hissyspit Apr 2013 #34
And for his pain and suffering, too. valerief Apr 2013 #36
Is he running around trying to kill more people? Pirate Smile Apr 2013 #37
We don't care about economic terrorism - TBF Apr 2013 #38
I read that the Fire Department was spraying water on a fire. Savannahmann Apr 2013 #43
no fire suppression system in a building storing tons of explosive shit. elehhhhna Apr 2013 #101
The South is proud of NO PERMITS and NO INSPECTIONS panda3 Apr 2013 #44
Is it Illegal to Blow-up Towns in Texas? mckara Apr 2013 #46
Is he missing? WilliamPitt Apr 2013 #48
Unreal, seriously unreal what I have seen on DU today Puzzledtraveller Apr 2013 #50
That's okay. He's a job creator. All is good. jsr Apr 2013 #54
Nah. Savvy businessman. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #60
A valid question. randome Apr 2013 #68
Yes, they have found a bit of him here, and a bit there. I hope he is alive and in alfredo Apr 2013 #71
No but I heard the Prez wants us to pay for it SHRED Apr 2013 #73
No but I sure hope the people sue his ass. southernyankeebelle Apr 2013 #77
No need. Whereas it is important to search for and find the Boston "asshole". eom yawnmaster Apr 2013 #84
Let the government take care of the injured hifiguy Apr 2013 #85
see, the important thing isn't that you kill people and destroy property. the important thing is HiPointDem Apr 2013 #86
Amen, brother. hifiguy Apr 2013 #90
Been saying this the last couple of days. Brickbat Apr 2013 #92
No. He's in the big club. Amonester Apr 2013 #97
The one who should see jail time... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #105
 

Leslie Valley

(310 posts)
1. I hadn't heard that he was missing.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:04 PM
Apr 2013

I'm pretty sure that they know the family name though. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
108. Capitalism views deaths in the line of business an unfortunate consequence.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 09:16 AM
Apr 2013

Most likely the business owner(s) will be looking to the government for some financial help while supporting politicians that will vote against helping those in the 99% that were adversely affected. Pure capitalism. The bottomline is the bottomline.

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
2. Naw, he did it for PROFIT, not god.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:06 PM
Apr 2013

As long as he made money, it's all OK, move along folks, nothing to see here.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
10. look, mon,
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:18 PM
Apr 2013

I am a bigfatliberal from Chicago, now living near Houston, and I know people who have loved ones & family who are still missing in West. And they're not all Republican, either. This texas bashing is bullshit. Sorry I popped off. Horrible week. Horrible. Found out yesterday a friend form Chicago's wife had her kneecap blown off in Boston. So yeah, I hate everybody at this moment.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
11. And I certainly understand. What I'm trying to say is that much of this appears
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:21 PM
Apr 2013

to be self-inflicted. I am so sorry for your friends and I do mean that.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
55. What you're missing is, if it was self inflicted, the owner would have been blown up
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:39 PM
Apr 2013

The ones that paid for the greed (with their lives homes and family members that were also killed/injured), as usual, were workers. Working stiffs that only received wages for selling hour long sections of their lives (punched neatly on time cards) so they could afford to feed and house themselves and any family relying on them. Those people never get rich off of this shit, they just get shit on by the rich. They die for their meager wages whenever there is a cave-in at a mine or an explosion at a factory because the pigs at the top think safety costs too much. They need the aid, as do the people of the town where these workers live with their families. I hope the money comes promptly.

I agree with the OP, why isn't the persons or person responsible being rounded up and charged like the criminals they are? I have a good idea that it's because, as has become clear for some time now, the upper financial and political classes are above the law. Our laws apparently only apply to the masses below that do all the work that creates the wealth being syphoned almost entirely towards the idle rich and purchased politicians.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
82. The way it always is and always has been under....
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:00 PM
Apr 2013

capitalism. Sometimes it's better hidden, but it's always there.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
95. They appear sometimes to go out of their way to prove Marx correct
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:30 PM
Apr 2013

Strongly regulated capitalism that doesn't allow the privatization of essential services and resources is the only way to tame the ugly beast, the beast can be chained and used to serve.

Some countries have tried this route with mixed economies using the conditions I described above. Those countries do well and have had happy citizens well cared for by socialized services.

We are nowhere near chaining the beast in this country, we are letting it devour everything as Marx predicted it always will because that is simply the nature of this beast.

The New Deal and Great Society were a step in the right direction, but we never did get around to protecting the commons from privatization, nor have we done much in the way of regulation.
I think that's why we can't have nice things like other countries do, all we are getting is ever increasing wealth disparity and a fascist corporate culture that does nothing but eat away at the few regulations we do have.

Fascism is winning here and we are allowing Capitalism to destroy us.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
88. Because the ownership class has
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:10 PM
Apr 2013

always been exempt from the law that applies to the little people. Twas ever thus in this country. The poor man who steals $1000 is jailed as a menace to society. The "businessman" who steals a billion gets a civil fine of 10% of what he stole, "does not admit to any lawbreaking" and goes free to steal again.

That's Equal Justice For All, 'murkan style.

somethingshiny

(31 posts)
62. Sorry-
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:59 PM
Apr 2013

Really sorry for your pain. It has been a horrible week. And who really cares about the political affiliations of any of the victims? WHY does this country go nuts (seemingly) every April?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
91. I agree... bozo is apt.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:20 PM
Apr 2013

I agree... bozo is apt. Were I less civil, "sub-literate, trout-brained, idiot who allows political dogma more priority than human suffering" may or may not have been said too.

Casey McDonald, a resident of West and close friend of mine is still missing. She could give a flying fuck about your hope and desire she waits a long, long time to receive assistance should she still be alive.

But yeah... you're a tolerant progressive.

SleeplessinSoCal

(8,998 posts)
70. Willie Nelson - my fave Texan since Molly Ivins left us - to the rescue
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:25 PM
Apr 2013

"Country star Willie Nelson will play a concert on April 28 to benefit the West Volunteer Fire Department in the wake of the fertilizer plant explosions in West, Texas, near his hometown, which killed at least 13 people, including five volunteer firefighters, and injured 200 earlier this week.

"West is just a few miles from my hometown of Abbott,” Nelson said in a statement. “I was born and raised here and it was my backyard growing up. This is my community. These friends and neighbors have always been and are still a part of my life. My heart is praying for the community that we call home."

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-willie-nelson-benefit-texas-explosion-20130419,0,1143324.story

efhmc

(14,709 posts)
41. 5th generation Texan here. I would so agree except that real humans
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:02 PM
Apr 2013

are suffering, not those horrible excuse for humans, perry and cruz

Gore1FL

(21,034 posts)
45. I don't
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:24 PM
Apr 2013

I thought the GOP were wrong in trying to do so for NJ and NY.

There are innocent people involved here. It's not about tit for tat.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
4. A guy I work with said, "Yeah, but the Boston guys did what they did intentionally.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:07 PM
Apr 2013

It wasn't an accident."

I call bullshit. Negligence is NO ACCIDENT. Whoever owns that plant is responsible and should be imprisoned for life.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
58. No safety inspections since '85. What do you think? Safety first prevents horrors like this.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:53 PM
Apr 2013

They quite clearly neglected any sane attempt at maintaining a safe work environment, a neglect that led directly to what happened.

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
76. I work for the
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:51 PM
Apr 2013

Govt and we didnt have safety inspections for decades. And once osha came they had to get fresh citation books out.

You would be suprised hoe many govt agencies are fined for safely even in a blue state like California.

But you must prove neglect.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
87. I submit that neglect was not proven because corruption likely kept out
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:09 PM
Apr 2013

those whose job it is to prove neglect. (just a guess because the governor is a dick that gets donations from companies that don't want pesky regulations or inspections).

I also think the agencies that do the inspections need enough staff and funding so that neglect is proven and corrected before large scale destruction and death result from an owner's lack of concern for the safety for his workers.

It is not all about fines, it is also about safety and prevention, the owner should bear responsibility for his unsafe plant, not just the inspectors that are charged with keeping him honest that appeared not to bother to stop by. (lack of funding or corruption, whatever the cause, they were not there before this happened when it may have prevented it)

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
109. Many European countries outlawed the type of fertilizer in Texas for 40 years.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:09 AM
Apr 2013

In 2001 Toulouse France which didn't ban it suffered a massive loss when their plant which produced the same fertilizer as Texas exploded. A French expert who was interviewed was surprised that Texas had not changed any regulations after the French diasater. He was stunned learning of the layout of the plant in Texas, namely highly combustible material kept so close to highly toxic material.

So yes there is clearly wilful neglience.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
80. All part and parcel...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:56 PM
Apr 2013

of Texas' "bring your business here, we won't bug you with regulations" bullshit.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
72. Because he didn't run around with it? Weird logic. But OK. Some mine owners need your help
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:31 PM
Apr 2013

Unsafe mining practices need more advocates as well as unsafe factories
...The disaster at Crandall Canyon Mine preceded the disaster at West Virginia's Upper Big Branch Mine by nearly three years and yet Upper Big Branch still occurred. The investigation into Upper Big Branch reaffirmed the continuing corporate culture of the coal industry is profits over people. The coal industry provides jobs and access to valuable energy resources. However, society should not allow these benefits to outweigh the value of a human life. Murray Energy's failure to acknowledge responsibility for its actions demonstrates that the current MSHA fine system is seen simply as a cost of doing business in the coal industry. Until the coal industry understands that it will be held accountable for unsafe mining practices regardless of whether injury or death results, coal mining companies will not take responsibility for their actions...


I mean they even have to pay a small fee for safety violations that can/have/will cause death. They should be relieved of this burden, just like this Factory owner that we can proudly say, didn't even have to pay a single fine for creating what became a large bomb due to his lack of safety concerns.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
79. I think you are strange and a little silly, a tragedy is a tragedy, it is not a competition
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:54 PM
Apr 2013

We can feel empathy for Mass. and Texas. We can also want justice for both, justice for acts of terrorism caused explosions, and greed caused explosions.

The people that suffer bleed and die in both cases, it is not a competition and no one wins by excluding other human tragedies due to an irrational belief that empathy MUST be selective or it is less valid.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. Good question!
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:26 PM
Apr 2013

Or is anyone asking Governor Goodhair WHY the plant hasn't been inspected recently?

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
17. that fuckwit's in Cali this week drumming up biz -
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:28 PM
Apr 2013

telling them we have no regs and rules. He's such a dick. I sincerely believe our voting system was compromised. NOBODY here admits to voting for him.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
20. I agree I think he cheated.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:31 PM
Apr 2013

I've asked staunch GOPers around here locally and dammed if I can find even ONE that admits to voting for him! They all voted for Kay! I smell a large RAT!

I saw that article and nearly puked...he is such a worthless piece of hair...shilling in Cali, while Rome burns.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
104. I would posit that's because nobody wants to admit to voting for him
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:03 PM
Apr 2013

I mean it's a bit embarrassing to vote for somebody that bloody stupid.

mzmolly

(50,957 posts)
57. And, now you're suggesting that we shouldn't look
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:50 PM
Apr 2013

for the Boston bomber because someone else was irresponsible.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
65. Are you a ventriloquist? the poster said no such thing, throwing your voice into her mouth is cool.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:07 PM
Apr 2013

So cool in fact, that even the posters lips didn't move when you placed the words in her mouth from across the room. I bet you even drank a glass of water while doing it! I must say tho that the water drinking bit is less impressive when you type the voice you throw.

mzmolly

(50,957 posts)
66. Oh I'm sorry. Is the person she's talking about actually
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:13 PM
Apr 2013

missing? Or, was she drawing a comparison to searching for a terrorist with a man who is not on the run for some other, unknown reason?

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
75. It is not her fault that you can't read very well, reread the OP
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:42 PM
Apr 2013

A delusional inference based on your strange and flawed logic s no excuse for lying about what she said.

The only sane inference would be the simple and honest one, "he should be arrested as well"
He did turn a factory into a giant IED that caused a large explosion and death.

The motive for doing so may have been to make money by risking others lives, rather than whatever those murderers motives were in Boston but the fucker is still responsible for lots of death and destruction.

mzmolly

(50,957 posts)
93. "Is anybody looking for the asshole whose plant blew up a WHOLE TOWN in TX?"
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:29 PM
Apr 2013

Implies what, to you?

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
102. The implication is clear "someone should round up this asshole whose plant blew up a town"
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:50 PM
Apr 2013

The rest is a bizarre inference created entirely from within your mind.

You on the other hand are IMPLYING that the OP was "suggesting that we shouldn't look for the Boston bomber because someone else was irresponsible".

More of a lie than an implication, because you made up the entire thing and placed it in her mouth, stop being silly, if someone cares about someone else they can STILL care about you , caring about someone else is not evidence that no one should care about you.

What drives such insecurity and such venom directed towards someone that can care about more than one tragedy at the same time and want justice in each case? It is not the weird zero sum game that appears to exist only in someone's insecure and addled brain.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
21. He's here: just gave statement
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:31 PM
Apr 2013
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Owner-of-West-fertilizer-plant-says-heart-is-4448339.php

Owner of West fertilizer plant says 'heart is broken'

By Houston Chronicle | April 19, 2013 | Updated: April 19, 2013 4:36pm

The owner of the fertilizer plant in West that suffered an explosion leading to the deaths of at least a dozen people this week has spoken for the first time about the tragedy.

Donald Adair, lifelong resident of West and owner of Adair Grain Inc., issued a statement Friday afternoon expressing sympathy for those affected.

"My heart is broken with grief for the tragic losses to so many families in our community," Adair said. "I know that everyone has been deeply affected by this incident. Loved ones have been injured or killed. Homes have been damaged or destroyed. Our hearts go out to everyone who has suffered."

Adair said he would never forget the "selfless sacrifice of first responders who died" in the fire.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
39. Is he going to pony up cold hard cash
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:59 PM
Apr 2013

to relocate people, rebuild a school/nursing home somewhere safe?

Will he be paying the patients' share of medical bills & physical therapy/continued care for the injured?

Will he be contributing the lost wages of the people killed? (to their families)

Will he pay any price for running a slipshod company?

Or will he slink off to a new location and build a new one?

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
51. Going out on a limb here,just taking a wild guess and saying...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:36 PM
Apr 2013

no. He won't be doing any of those things. Nor will he lose his claim on high moral ground and admired status as a "job creator."

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
98. He will put up a nickel in cash the day
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:41 PM
Apr 2013

Last edited Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:47 AM - Edit history (1)

after the new Pope is found getting brickfaced in a Roman strip joint. I am as sure as eggs is eggs that he will have plenty of nice, cheap "prayers" for all the suffering people killed or maimed by his greedy disregard for workplace safety.

Membership in the ownership/capitalist class, even on a relatively small scale, is a guarantee you will never see the inside of a prison cell unless you kill your wife or mistress. Dead workers and proletarians don't count for shit.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
42. Yum! Kolache!
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:07 PM
Apr 2013

My high school BFF's grandmother used to make it to take to school and share with her friends. She was Czech. She never learned how to make it because grandma mixed stuff up together without a recipe or measuring the ingredients. My friend needed something on a 3X5 card.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
47. I'd like to find a recipe for authentic rectangular kolachen.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:33 PM
Apr 2013

Authentic ones don't have an open top or icing on top.

Prune and poppy seed MMMMM!!!!

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
53. Not really sweet either. Look like a rectangular dinner roll.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:38 PM
Apr 2013

Most of the ones they sell in the stores are open topped with icing in a sweet rich dough.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
26. That person should spend time a LONG time in jail as well. Life w/ out parole.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:39 PM
Apr 2013

If we started holding these asshole, corporate shitbags accountable and sent them to prison like we are doing to the Marathon Bombers, then perhaps corporations would stop fucking shit up so damned much. No one from BP went to jail when the Deep Water Horizon platform blew, killed several workers, and ended up fucking up the Gulf Coast for who knows how long?

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
40. Typical.. Just like the Army personnel at Abu Grahb caught with pics of Iraqi jailed persons.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:01 PM
Apr 2013

They went to trial and served time. Bush Crime et al, free as birds, still talking on tv and making money off of their evil, illegal endeavors.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
28. You mean Mr. Donald Adair of Adair Grain, Inc. of West, Texas?
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:43 PM
Apr 2013
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/west-explosion/headlines/20130419-owner-of-adair-grain-expresses-sympathies-vows-to-work-with-investigators-on-west-explosion.ece

<snip>
Meanwhile, the owner of West Fertilizer Co. broke his silence Friday and expressed his “heartfelt sympathy for those affected.” Donald Adair said he pledged to help solve what caused the blast and prevent it from happening again in any community.

Adair praised the first responders “who died trying to protect all of us” and said the incident will be something he will never get over.

<snip>

TBF

(31,922 posts)
38. We don't care about economic terrorism -
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:57 PM
Apr 2013

rich folks can blow up things to collect insurance all they want. That's the American way!

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
43. I read that the Fire Department was spraying water on a fire.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:09 PM
Apr 2013

Before the entire plant went inferno, and then exploded. The rub here is that it started as a reasonably minor industrial accident. One of ten thousand each year. Then it spread, and Ammonium Nitrate enhances fires of other materials, and becomes very shock sensitive when mixed with organic chemicals.

Now, the Fire Department fighting the fire was spraying water, which is about all you can do, hoping to get ahead of it. Then the plant went up, and in the fire, things mixed that shouldn't.

Are we suddenly going to decide that we don't want Fertilizer in our lives any more? No, we aren't. Are we going to pass new safety rules? We don't know what happened yet, so it is a little early for new rules. There is always some risk in an industrial environment. All you can do is try and minimize it, and hope the thing you haven't considered doesn't happen.

A minor fire grew, and became an inferno, and then a massive explosion. I'm not sure we should lynch the owner of the plant yet. Let's figure out what happened first, and if he was cutting corners or taking unreasonable or understood to be unsafe actions.

On the other hand, if he was playing with matches next to the propane tank while standing in a puddle of gasoline, that is another story. But really guys, let's slow down, and figure out what happened first OK?

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
101. no fire suppression system in a building storing tons of explosive shit.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:50 PM
Apr 2013

what could possibly go wrong?

alfredo

(60,065 posts)
71. Yes, they have found a bit of him here, and a bit there. I hope he is alive and in
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:29 PM
Apr 2013

excruciating pain.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
85. Let the government take care of the injured
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:04 PM
Apr 2013

and compensate people who fall through the inevitable "exclusions" of the insurance coverage. Let the asshole who owned the facility beg on the streets. Fuck the capitalist class in the ear.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
86. see, the important thing isn't that you kill people and destroy property. the important thing is
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:06 PM
Apr 2013

whether or not you do it in the name of capital.

all is forgiven if it's for the sake of making money.

it's weird. there could be as many as 100 people dead yet the fuckwit owner is out drumming up more business for his criminal enterprise after a perfunctory expression of grief.

meanwhile, in boston...well, you know.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
105. The one who should see jail time...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:57 PM
Apr 2013

is the governors and legislators who made Texas a deregulation haven.

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