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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:00 PM Apr 2013

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Was Failing Many College Courses

TOM KLUDT 4:52 PM EDT, FRIDAY APRIL 19, 2013

Although he received an academic scholarship in high school, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was failing several of the university courses he took in 2012 and 2013, according to the New York Times.

Tsarnaev, the 19-year-old at large suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings, won a $2,500 scholarship awarded to promising high school students in Cambridge, Mass., but his academic excellence did not extend to the university level. From the Times:

Dzhokhar might have done well academically in high school, but according to a university transcript reviewed by The New York Times, he was failing many of his college classes. The transcript shows him receiving seven failing grades over two semesters in 2012 and 2013, including F’s in Principles of Modern Chemistry, Intro American Politics, and Chemistry and the Environment. According to the transcript, Dzhokhar received a B in Critical Writing and a D and D-plus in two other courses.

UMass Dartmouth confirmed that Tsarnaev is registered at the school, but it is unclear if he was attending classes there. The school ordered a campus-wide evacuation on Friday after confirming the suspect's ties to the university.

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Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Was Failing Many College Courses (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2013 OP
Sounds like he had his mind on other things Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #1
Not surprised they got it, I am more surprised someone released they got it. gordianot Apr 2013 #18
Yeah, that's what I meant Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #21
fasfa violation if a school released it to the public HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #22
Since when do colleges release grades to the news media? undeterred Apr 2013 #2
I doubt they did but someone evidently leaked his transcripts cali Apr 2013 #5
I'm guessing they didn't release it to the Times... DonViejo Apr 2013 #12
It's a violation of federal law...you can't release grades to a student's PARENTS without say so alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #14
Yes, I am sure that is the biggest concern now. LisaL Apr 2013 #17
It is obviously of no concern; nevertheless, it is against the law alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #20
. snagglepuss Apr 2013 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author nolabear Apr 2013 #4
that's the brother cali Apr 2013 #7
I think that report was for the older brother who was married undeterred Apr 2013 #8
No, he was a US citizen. He got his citizenship recently. LisaL Apr 2013 #10
OOPS! Sorry! Deleting. nolabear Apr 2013 #16
This is a pretty severe FERPA violation...whoever supplied that to the Times is alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #6
Agreed. Motivated high school student suddenly loses interest in college after brother returns from riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #30
He also lost a gold glove match to a Chicago boxer mikeysnot Apr 2013 #9
That is not the 19 year old. LisaL Apr 2013 #15
My bad, but it seems they were both distracted.. mikeysnot Apr 2013 #19
Probably was too busy studying The Anarchist's Cookbook to bother with his coursework. kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #11
because he was too busy planning up Terror Attacks JI7 Apr 2013 #13
it's all part of demonizing the bad guy HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #23
Read the article about his wife.....she left him and moved back home to RI and her parents Gin Apr 2013 #24
Reading about Marina Oswald, who was in a similar position in 1963... Bucky Apr 2013 #26
And they got the transcript how? Mass Apr 2013 #25
banner d_r Apr 2013 #27
And, with the success the media have had these last few days and in December, Mass Apr 2013 #28
yeah d_r Apr 2013 #29
College IT systems are generally pretty insecure. FarCenter Apr 2013 #31
 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
1. Sounds like he had his mind on other things
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:02 PM
Apr 2013

Wonder how they got the transcript anyway? That's more interesting than what's in it.

gordianot

(15,232 posts)
18. Not surprised they got it, I am more surprised someone released they got it.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:08 PM
Apr 2013

In these situations not much Federal law enforcement cannot get in the name of Homeland security in spite of FERPA there are loopholes.

 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
21. Yeah, that's what I meant
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:12 PM
Apr 2013

Most likely was leaked from a govt. source to the media, not directly to the media from the university. Still, interesting.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
22. fasfa violation if a school released it to the public
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:13 PM
Apr 2013

though it isn't as if some family member will file a law suit

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
12. I'm guessing they didn't release it to the Times...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:07 PM
Apr 2013

but it was leaked to them by a source, e.g., an investigator. Massachusetts has very stringent (I'm not complaining) privacy rules.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
14. It's a violation of federal law...you can't release grades to a student's PARENTS without say so
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:07 PM
Apr 2013

FERPA: Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
20. It is obviously of no concern; nevertheless, it is against the law
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:09 PM
Apr 2013


I'm not the least bit concerned with the outright FERPA violation. I was merely answering the previous poster's question. Whoever released those grades to the Times was not supposed to do so.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
8. I think that report was for the older brother who was married
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:06 PM
Apr 2013

and not for the 19 year old who was at college.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
10. No, he was a US citizen. He got his citizenship recently.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:06 PM
Apr 2013

The older brother was the one denied citizenship.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
6. This is a pretty severe FERPA violation...whoever supplied that to the Times is
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:05 PM
Apr 2013

going to be fired.

This looks to have been planned for a good while. He becomes a US citizen on 9/11/12? Come on. He's failing his classes, presumably Spring Semester 12, Fall Semester 12? Seven of them? He was going to be separated from the university. This guy had checked out by this time last year.

He became a citizen to buy guns, period.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
30. Agreed. Motivated high school student suddenly loses interest in college after brother returns from
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:34 PM
Apr 2013

6 months abroad in an area rife with Islamic Chechen radicalism.

He became a citizen to buy guns.

I'm now more convinced than ever that there's an organization behind these two. This was planned for a very long time



HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
23. it's all part of demonizing the bad guy
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:15 PM
Apr 2013

And that is what our psycho-social cognitive motivators are demanding

Gin

(7,212 posts)
24. Read the article about his wife.....she left him and moved back home to RI and her parents
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:16 PM
Apr 2013

With the kid......bet she has a good story to tell

Bucky

(53,928 posts)
26. Reading about Marina Oswald, who was in a similar position in 1963...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:22 PM
Apr 2013

it seems that the media and the public generally agreed by concensus to leave her and her kids alone and not scorn her for her husband's acts. And this was a Russian emigre at the hottest peak of the Cold War. I hope today society shows the same level of class & courtesy. I doubt it, but I do hope.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
25. And they got the transcript how?
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:17 PM
Apr 2013

Even if the college had given the transcript to reporters, it has been closed for most of the day.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
27. banner
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:28 PM
Apr 2013

different colleges do different things, but it is pretty common that faculty and advisers can pull it up with a web browser. I'm guessing this came from the investigators though, they were probably gathering as much info as they could and someone got sloppy with it in all the confusion.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
28. And, with the success the media have had these last few days and in December,
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:31 PM
Apr 2013

I guess we have to trust them and accept what they say as facts.

Guys, I will wait until our gov tells us the story. I believe him. I dont believe the media any more.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
29. yeah
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:33 PM
Apr 2013

this is a time when information is moving at a speed faster than we have systems in place to handle.

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