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AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:58 PM Apr 2013

Tamerlan was probably named after perhaps the most brutal man in history

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/19/is-tamerlan-tsarnaev-named-after-a-brutal-warlord.html

I have been fascinated by Tamerlane for decades now. It is as if his legacy has been ignored for some reason. He ruled from Egypt to China and he won it all by the sword. His descendants ruled Persia and parts of central asia for centuries - Timurid dynasty. One of his grandsons, Babur, founded the Moghul Empire which ruled much of India until taken apart by the British in the wake of the Mutiny in 1857. Moghul=mongol.

Tamerlane, or Timur, was unbelievably brutal. Yet he is still a favorite in Uzbekistan. He is buried in his capital, Samarkarand. Uzbekistan was absorbed into the Soviet Union. Some Soviet scientists thought it would be a good idea to open up his sarcophagus and take a look around. They ignored the curse that was to befall anyone and any nation who disturbed Timur's grave. They poked around, took some pictures and figured out that this indeed was probably Tamerlane because his leg was injured. They opened the tomb on June 22, 1941 - the same day Operation Barbarossa started.
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Tamerlan was probably named after perhaps the most brutal man in history (Original Post) AngryAmish Apr 2013 OP
OMG that explains it all! Myrina Apr 2013 #1
The very same thing struck me; and his bro Dzhokhar is named after the greatest Batman villain ever. johnfunk Apr 2013 #2
. Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2013 #5
Actually he may be named after this guy RZM Apr 2013 #11
LMAO! You owe me a new monitor arcane1 Apr 2013 #14
Thought you were going to say dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #3
June 33??? Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #4
well, it was a curse and curses have their own ways lol nt msongs Apr 2013 #8
in soviet russia, each month had up to 72 days AngryAmish Apr 2013 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #16
what a bullshit article. how does she know he wasn't named after a relative? cali Apr 2013 #6
The title does say "probably" which most people take to mean "I'm not certain" n/t Fumesucker Apr 2013 #10
I agree Enrique Apr 2013 #15
If he was named after a relative, then the relative was named after Tamerlane. Demoiselle Apr 2013 #23
That explains the concert band piece TrogL Apr 2013 #7
So... Mike Nelson Apr 2013 #12
ok... I see the 22nd - nt Mike Nelson Apr 2013 #13
His parents did not name him for a reason AngryAmish Apr 2013 #17
big deal. it's also a common name. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #18
And Attila is a common name in Hungary Retrograde Apr 2013 #19
Eh, but how many gaspee Apr 2013 #20
Which also explains why Ronald Reagan was such a dumbass president. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #21
My son's name is "Matthew" which means "Gift of the Lord"... Melinda Apr 2013 #22
Shapiro seems to be profoundly ignorant of history. opiate69 Apr 2013 #24

johnfunk

(6,113 posts)
2. The very same thing struck me; and his bro Dzhokhar is named after the greatest Batman villain ever.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:01 PM
Apr 2013

... sorry, I had to say it.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
11. Actually he may be named after this guy
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:05 PM
Apr 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzhokhar_Dudaev

Chechen leader (and former Soviet Air Force officer) who was assassinated during the war in a Russian missile strike.

Response to AngryAmish (Reply #9)

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
15. I agree
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:08 PM
Apr 2013

I wonder if this author knows what her own name means, or if her parents knew when they named her.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
23. If he was named after a relative, then the relative was named after Tamerlane.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:30 PM
Apr 2013

The original Tamerlane was a very famous and brutal dude in that part of the world. Long ago.

TrogL

(32,818 posts)
7. That explains the concert band piece
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:04 PM
Apr 2013

I used to teach band and at festivals sometimes one of the required pieces was some horrible dreary thing called Tamerlane full of parallel fifths and sour discords. Everybody hated it

Mike Nelson

(9,944 posts)
12. So...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:06 PM
Apr 2013

you're... or, this? is saying his parents named him for this reason, knowing this would happen?
And was the tomb opened on the 33rd?
huh?

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
17. His parents did not name him for a reason
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:10 PM
Apr 2013

It is just a weird quirk of history. And for all I know he had a grandfather named Tamurlan.

But Tamerlane is one of the most interesting figures in history. More damned than Ghengis Khan - supposedly because he was educated.

Retrograde

(10,130 posts)
19. And Attila is a common name in Hungary
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:11 PM
Apr 2013

And people are still named Joseph and Alexander and William even though they had namesakes who weren't the nicest of people. Most people get stuck with the names their parents give them.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
24. Shapiro seems to be profoundly ignorant of history.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:52 PM
Apr 2013

And possibly Islamaphobic to boot. To try to name any one person as "the most brutal in history" is absurd when there have been so many possible candidates for that title.
Pol Pot, Hitler/Mengele et al, Idi Amin, Atilla the Hun, Genghis Khan, Vlad Tsepesch, Ivan the Terrible, Elizabet Bathory, Sultan Mehmed II, etc, etc...

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