Brother's aunt a lawyer who lives in Toronto is in denial. Very intense entire interview.

[snagglepuss]

She can't believe her nephews could commit such autrocities. FTR her denial is more than understandable. Lots of info about the family

http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=706871&playlistId=1.1244800&binId=1.810401&playlistPageNum=1

[dkf]

1. They sound like a family who valued honor a lot.

I can't imagine how horrific this must be for them.

When the uncle said these killers had brought dishonor to their family and their people and their religion, I absolutely understood what he was saying because that is what I have been taught. We are a reflection on our people.

When the aunt comes to terms with this she will have a hard time.

[Baitball Blogger]

2. Complete denial. But understandable as a relative.

[kestrel91316]

3. Crazy angry Russian lady, claiming there is no evidence that those WONDERFUL boys

did the bombing, says they were set up.

She sounds like Alex Jones in drag. I deal with people like her almost daily in my practice, they can be very noisy and disagreeable, they always challenge experts and authorities. I want to like Russians, and they can be great clients, but so many of them get my hackles up.

[Ikonoklast]

4. In my experience in dealing with them, Russians love three things:

1. A good conspiracy theory.

2. Blaming everyone else when it is they that fucked up.

3. Loudness as a substitute for fact.

[snagglepuss]

6. She is Chechen not Russian.

[Ikonoklast]

9. Same outcome, Georgians can be included in that list.

[snagglepuss]

12. So no difference between Mexicans and Americans then.

[Ikonoklast]

13. Get into an argument with an ethnic Georgian, get back to me.

Include Albanians on my list while your at it, thnx.

[kestrel91316]

14. ^^^^ This^^^^^

[Ikonoklast]

15. Some people need to get out more.

I bump into these guys all the time, it's like they all read the same playbook.

[nolabear]

17. That's not cool. Not cool at all. How would you feel if you were profiled like that?

[redqueen]

19. I was pretty surprised to see that.

As part of a comedy routine on a comedy show, or something, I could see it as a joke... but that seems entirely serious.

[Ikonoklast]

20. "In my experience...". Are you questioning what I experience first-hand?

I deal with people just like I have described all the time, and it gets tiresome.

Arguing and denying seems to be their first line of defense.

[nolabear]

24. That means a lot. "In my experience". If you can honestly say you didn't mean it to be inflammatory

then I will withdraw. But in MY experience, those kinds of claims posted in a public place without any addition that you are a part of that experience and it is not universal perpetuates stereotypes and has the potential to cause unfair perceptions of an entire people.

[Ikonoklast]

25. The type of people I have to deal with aren't exactly the Upper Crust.

Many are one step above our version of Teabaggers, xenophobic, racist, ignorant.

[nolabear]

26. Sounds like you and the people you have to deal with are in a standoff.

You don't like them; they don't like you. I know there are difficult people in all walks, but there are also fine people in all walks. It just bothers me that you say "Russians" as if they are all one opinion, one point of view, and not approachable in any other way.

[Ikonoklast]

28. When you already know that the person you are dealing with will call you a cheat, even before

a deal is made, it kinda jades you. Members of other first-generation ethnic groups don't seem to treat negotiations in the same way as they do.

I use the term "Russian" as it is used in my industry as a blanket term that covers Eastern European emigres; Polish, Russian, Albanian, Ukrainian, etc., as it seems they tend to share a homogeneous outlook about doing business. i.e., everyone is out to screw them.

It seems to stem from a shared cultural experience for workers coming from the former Soviet Bloc nations.

My experiences can be retold by a great deal of others in the industry, my opinion is not unique whatsoever.

[FarCenter]

30. The most racist tirad I've ever heard was a Russian Jew talking about the Chinese

[LiberalEsto]

23. You forgot No.4 vodka nt

[Myrina]

7. Broad brush, there, no?

She's recently learned that 2 young men she's presumably known their entire lives committed a really horrible deed that killed people, for no apparent reason, and now 1 is dead and the other on the run ... wouldn't you be just a little bit rattled & taken off guard??

[snagglepuss]

8. She is Chechan.

[Ecumenist]

10. This isn't Orly tait, is it?

[X_Digger]

11. Please, stop.

Nobody wants to believe that people they know and love could do something so terrible. So what if she's lashing out? We see that all the time with family members of people who do horrible things- "He was getting his act together, he was nice to everyone." etc.

Is that so unbelievable? Imagine that someone you bounced on your knee as a kid grew up to something terrible. How would YOU reconcile what you remember of the kid with the acts of the adult?

[Barack_America]

16. Dude, wouldn't you demand visual proof if they were your relatives?

Would you just take the authorities' word for it if they were your flesh and blood?

[redqueen]

22. Really?

I want to like Russians, and they can be great clients, but so many of them get my hackles up.

Wow. Yeah. I bet you do.

[Marrah_G]

5. It's a very hard thing for people to believe that their family member would do such a thing

Also she lives in Toronto and probably only sees them rarely.

[JI7]

18. is it hard to Believe that people who come from the former Soviet Union

would be more likely to believe in things like cover ups by higher officials ?

[yellowcanine]

21. I can understand the denial. But the behavior of the brothers screams guilt.

If any innocent person were to "get tagged" as a suspect, they are not going to stick up a 7-11, shoot a cop, hijack a car and load it up with bombs, guns and ammunition. I don't see how even a family member can get around that.

[Justice]

27. But she did call the FBI, correct?

[LisaL]

29. Where in the world did you get this idea?