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I like this Uncle, Ruslan Tsarni... (Original Post) MrScorpio Apr 2013 OP
That broke my heart Patiod Apr 2013 #1
He had such courage to come out and speak to the press. PearliePoo2 Apr 2013 #29
+1 freshwest Apr 2013 #40
Exactly! hamsterjill Apr 2013 #61
I feel so bad for him. bunnies Apr 2013 #2
Agree malaise Apr 2013 #3
He said they did this because they are losers. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #4
He's so ashamed Catherine Vincent Apr 2013 #5
I posted elsewhere that he might be a target for someone wanting revenge. randome Apr 2013 #6
Agree. Sounds like he knows CakeGrrl Apr 2013 #7
Would have been nice if he called the FBI yesterday. godai Apr 2013 #8
The uncle said RudynJack Apr 2013 #10
Maybe he did KatyMan Apr 2013 #11
They were discovered robbing a 7-11. godai Apr 2013 #14
How do you know he didn't? It was reported that they had spoken with an uncle very early hlthe2b Apr 2013 #12
7-11 robbery was late last night. n/t godai Apr 2013 #15
Late last night eastern time... It was reported early this morning MOUNTAIN TIME! hlthe2b Apr 2013 #17
Uhhhh...mountain time would have the report earlier. godai Apr 2013 #25
I sense a vey ugly undertone in your posts...VERY UGLY. I will not be responding to you futher. hlthe2b Apr 2013 #26
What...too many FACTS for you? n/t godai Apr 2013 #27
You apparently are unwillliing/unable to read with any comprehension. hlthe2b Apr 2013 #30
I hate these 2 guys and will not trust their relatives until they're proven to be not involved. godai Apr 2013 #31
^^^EVERYONE SHOULD SEE HOW THIS POSTER BEHAVES^^ hlthe2b Apr 2013 #32
guilt by association. or simply cause islamic? do you say the same about oh.. every other criminal's seabeyond Apr 2013 #34
During a terrorism investigation, things are different. godai Apr 2013 #37
oh fuck that. terrorism my ass. no different than mcveigh, the austin irs dive bomber or the many seabeyond Apr 2013 #39
Because that is what it is. Zax2me Apr 2013 #53
and mcveigh was getting together with his christian buddies, ect... the motivation is seabeyond Apr 2013 #57
Yeah. And many loon say the same thing about all muslims joeglow3 Apr 2013 #36
Guilty till proven innocent. Gotcha. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author godai Apr 2013 #51
self delete godai Apr 2013 #52
self delete godai Apr 2013 #55
You conflate facts and assumptions. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #47
The relative indicated he knew from the photos today. No assumption. godai Apr 2013 #50
That is what he indicated. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #56
The uncle let it slip laundry_queen Apr 2013 #54
His wife showed him the photo on the phone interview. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #59
Resettled by the CIA? FarCenter Apr 2013 #9
Wait, what? CIA? stevenleser Apr 2013 #13
That uncle mainstreetonce Apr 2013 #18
CIA operatives from Chechnya or other breakaway republics would be extracted and resettled FarCenter Apr 2013 #20
They were here since 2001 per some accounts - mostly likely as a young teen and a kid - or both kids karynnj Apr 2013 #45
They stole the Mercedes, I think. Listening to live TV since last night. freshwest Apr 2013 #42
There's an older online photo with him standing in front of 'his Mercedes.' n/t godai Apr 2013 #64
Where in Maryland does Ruslan live? LiberalEsto Apr 2013 #16
I believe it's Montgoomery Village, just north of Rockville. n/t godai Apr 2013 #19
That's 3 miles from me LiberalEsto Apr 2013 #24
Very close to me too. Xyzse Apr 2013 #33
I see you're in Germantown - that is close LiberalEsto Apr 2013 #35
UU? Xyzse Apr 2013 #38
Unitarian-Universalist starroute Apr 2013 #46
Aha, thanks. Xyzse Apr 2013 #48
Unitarian Universalist LiberalEsto Apr 2013 #58
I see, sounds good. Xyzse Apr 2013 #60
Montgomery Village Kingofalldems Apr 2013 #21
Terrorism vs. Loserism flamingdem Apr 2013 #22
Terrorism and Loserism are one and the same IMO meow2u3 Apr 2013 #44
Yeah, he's not mincing words. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #23
Did he explain who was taking care of his nephews? reformist2 Apr 2013 #28
They are both adults. LisaL Apr 2013 #41
I think it would be interesting to know if he had any real adults in his life. reformist2 Apr 2013 #65
Said he hadn't seen them since 2005 and that father had no control over them whatsoever. freshwest Apr 2013 #43
I think he took a big chance doing that press conference in English being Cleita Apr 2013 #62
Me too - I'm hoping the "Losers" meme goes viral Taverner Apr 2013 #63
Lighten up everybody. jonthebru Apr 2013 #66
Uncle's profession mchill Apr 2013 #67
Big Sky was drilling in Kazakistan FarCenter Apr 2013 #68

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
1. That broke my heart
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:32 AM
Apr 2013

We all have loser relatives. Imagine waking up and seeing them spread all over the TV.

Ugh.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
29. He had such courage to come out and speak to the press.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:56 AM
Apr 2013

I felt so bad for him knowing his life has changed now. I saw him wiping his eyes as he walked back to his house. Most likely tears.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. I posted elsewhere that he might be a target for someone wanting revenge.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:34 AM
Apr 2013

After this, I don't think so. He did the right thing.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
7. Agree. Sounds like he knows
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:36 AM
Apr 2013

how quickly the lynch mob mentality will flare up once the mob figures out the target and is wisely using the media to get his message out.

I like that he called them out as 'unsettled losers'. Interesting contrast to the father defending his 'angel' son.

godai

(2,902 posts)
8. Would have been nice if he called the FBI yesterday.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:38 AM
Apr 2013

These relatives must have know immediately from the photos, who they were.

godai

(2,902 posts)
14. They were discovered robbing a 7-11.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:44 AM
Apr 2013

FBI could have gotten them at home if they know their identities.

hlthe2b

(102,139 posts)
12. How do you know he didn't? It was reported that they had spoken with an uncle very early
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:40 AM
Apr 2013

this morning (mountain time) or possibly overnight.

hlthe2b

(102,139 posts)
17. Late last night eastern time... It was reported early this morning MOUNTAIN TIME!
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:46 AM
Apr 2013

You seem very determined to excoriate every relative of his. Interesting to imagine WHY?

godai

(2,902 posts)
25. Uhhhh...mountain time would have the report earlier.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:50 AM
Apr 2013

You seem to want to defend their relatives no matter what. Interesting to imagine WHY?

hlthe2b

(102,139 posts)
26. I sense a vey ugly undertone in your posts...VERY UGLY. I will not be responding to you futher.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:52 AM
Apr 2013

While i realize you are having difficulty with reading comprehension, I said

It was reported that they had spoken with an uncle very early
this morning (mountain time) or possibly overnight.

hlthe2b

(102,139 posts)
30. You apparently are unwillliing/unable to read with any comprehension.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:56 AM
Apr 2013

So, beyond my concerns that you may be moving toward some very unpleasant and possibly racist attitudes, the fact you can not/will not read and comprehend what I wrote makes it impossible to have a constructive discussion with you.

godai

(2,902 posts)
31. I hate these 2 guys and will not trust their relatives until they're proven to be not involved.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:58 AM
Apr 2013

You, on the other hand, seem to blindly trust them.

hlthe2b

(102,139 posts)
32. ^^^EVERYONE SHOULD SEE HOW THIS POSTER BEHAVES^^
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:00 PM
Apr 2013

I said nothing about anyone but the uncle, who is not even a suspect at this point. To construe otherwise/to conflate that as support for these two killers-- tells everyone here at DU what YOU are all about and YOUR tactics.

You may just be emotional. You may just be "scared".. but this is a contemptible tactic... This is what we'd expect those on the other side--those other websites--to do.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
34. guilt by association. or simply cause islamic? do you say the same about oh.. every other criminal's
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:07 PM
Apr 2013

family?

godai

(2,902 posts)
37. During a terrorism investigation, things are different.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:14 PM
Apr 2013

The relatives may be completely innocent. I guarantee that they'll be investigated. That's all I'm saying. Are US cities shut down for every crime? This is different.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
39. oh fuck that. terrorism my ass. no different than mcveigh, the austin irs dive bomber or the many
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:16 PM
Apr 2013

other "white christian" terrorist bullshit that we ignore.

so, islamic. that is what does it for you. gotcha.

 

Zax2me

(2,515 posts)
53. Because that is what it is.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:30 PM
Apr 2013

Islamic terrorism.
Denial is the food of ignorance -
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/massive-police-operation-under-way-in-boston/2013/04/19/979ec6dc-a8c6-11e2-a8e2-5b98cb59187f_print.html
Two law enforcement officials said they believe there is a “Chechen connection” to the bombings. In the last several months, Tamerlan Tsarnaev had posted videos to YouTube indicating his interest in radical Muslim ideologies.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
57. and mcveigh was getting together with his christian buddies, ect... the motivation is
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:31 PM
Apr 2013

loser, anti social. extremism.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
36. Yeah. And many loon say the same thing about all muslims
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:13 PM
Apr 2013

Their position carries about as much weight as yours does.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
49. Guilty till proven innocent. Gotcha.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:26 PM
Apr 2013

You realize the FBI probably interviewed him before the press conference, right?

Hell, he might even be in protective custody right now.

Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #49)

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
47. You conflate facts and assumptions.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:24 PM
Apr 2013

You ASSUME the families must have known from the photos.

You know what they say about assumptions...

godai

(2,902 posts)
50. The relative indicated he knew from the photos today. No assumption.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:27 PM
Apr 2013

So, from the photos yesterday, he should have had the same conclusion. Maybe he didn't see the photos yesterday? Possible, I guess.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
56. That is what he indicated.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:31 PM
Apr 2013

When he was talking about "AOL". Would have to know when he saw the photo, but doesn't seem to me like he withheld anything or would withhold anything.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
54. The uncle let it slip
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:30 PM
Apr 2013

That they recognized them from the photos online from LAST NIGHT, which contradicts what he said a few minutes before about 'not knowing' until 7 am. Not sure if it was a language issue but it didn't sound like it.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
59. His wife showed him the photo on the phone interview.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:37 PM
Apr 2013

"it is reminding me very much of him"

The photos he saw the day before probably weren't as clear. (I didn't see the high rez until this morning, PST)

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
9. Resettled by the CIA?
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:39 AM
Apr 2013

Another admission on political asylum grounds?

In boxing photos, older brother had a Mercedes? Where is the money coming from?

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
20. CIA operatives from Chechnya or other breakaway republics would be extracted and resettled
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:48 AM
Apr 2013

Particularly if they also had knowledge of Central Asian Russian and CIS information and/or could continue to be used as analysts, etc.

All part of the dirty wars in the '80s and '90 in the Caucasus, Central Asia, and Xinjiang using Islamists to destabilize former Soviet Union and China.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
45. They were here since 2001 per some accounts - mostly likely as a young teen and a kid - or both kids
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:21 PM
Apr 2013
 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
16. Where in Maryland does Ruslan live?
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:45 AM
Apr 2013

Wondering if he's near Rockville

Someone posted that he's from MoCo! (Montgomery County)

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
24. That's 3 miles from me
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:49 AM
Apr 2013

Montgomery Village is just north of Gaithersburg.
I live in Derwood, between Gaithersburg and Rockville.
This area is such a wonderful melting post of people from different countries and backgrounds.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
35. I see you're in Germantown - that is close
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:08 PM
Apr 2013

I used to be in the UU congregation there, but recently switched to a closer one.

meow2u3

(24,759 posts)
44. Terrorism and Loserism are one and the same IMO
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:20 PM
Apr 2013

In other words, terrorists are losers because they're ice cold dead inside, which makes them want to kill everybody else around them to drag them down to their level.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
41. They are both adults.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:16 PM
Apr 2013

Who is supposed to be taking care of them, and why exactly they can't take care of themselves?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
62. I think he took a big chance doing that press conference in English being
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:40 PM
Apr 2013

his English is not that fluent. I would have opted for a translator. He still knows good enough English to know if the translator wasn't saying what he meant but he could have been more precise in his language.

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