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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. They are darker skinned men with dark hair. Possibly of Middle Eastern descent....
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:03 AM
Apr 2013

I looked up Chechnya. It used to be a turkish/persian area. Persia is...I think that's what Iranians are?

We don't know what the profile was. That was never revealed...if they profiled (I would guess they did; most law enforcement use profilers to know what they focus on).

What you are talking about was a description of the men, which seems accurate to me. Altho they're not very dark, they are darker (dark olive skin) than your average New Englander.

They are/were also attractive young men. What a waste that they chose to go over to the dark side.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
9. They don't look dark to me. And the majority of Americans would not view them as dark.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:10 AM
Apr 2013

Anytime there is a criminal event and the term "dark skinned" is used... the profile of the two suspects now believed to be the perpetrators is not the image that comes to mind.


CNN's John King and the other media outlets that reported that phrase (and NOTHING more) knew the underlying "dog whistle" they were sounding.


Within the context of this discussion, there is no way these two individuals born in Russia are dark skinned. Nor should they be described as such.


And everybody here knows it.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
11. They look Middle Eastern to me. When I saw the pics, that's what I thought.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:17 AM
Apr 2013

The dark olive skin, but not Italian. More like Iran or something. All Middle Eastern cultures aren't the same. They are different.

Chechnya was Turkish/Persian long ago. Persian is different from the darker Arabians.

Just sayin' that's what I thought when I saw the pics. If I saw them on the street, I wouldn't necessary peg them as non-American, but I would consider them of possibly Middle Eastern descent. But maybe that's because I've worked with some Middle Eastern descendent people.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
12. Within the context of the history of the USA...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:35 AM
Apr 2013


Do you think the terms "dark skinned" was a applicable description of the suspects?


The overwhelming majority of Americans hear that phrase and instantly EXCLUDE people who look like the current suspects.


Not only did the inaccurate "dog whistle" reporting lead to innocent people being harassed, it arguably aided the actual suspects in their terrorist efforts.


Nobody heard the reports of "dark skinned" and thought of an Italian complexion.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. Hmmm. You may have a point there. I may be giving them a benefit of the doubt.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:45 PM
Apr 2013

Most people probably did think of the darker Arabian skin. Me, too. But when I saw them, I didn't think immediately "Hey, they aren't dark skinned." Being dark skinned doesn't mean non-American, either, since America is a melting pot.

It was more than the skin color. It was more the features, the hair, skin tone, something about them struck me as Middle Eastern descent. I'm of French ancestry, with brown hair & eyes, and lightish olive skin. But no one has ever mistaken me for Middle Eastern or of a swarthy culture. My features and all, I suppose, look European. And the fineness of my hair. All those things.

Christianne Amanpour is part Iranian. I don't think anyone would say she's dark skinned, but she doesn't look European, so maybe that's what I picked up on.

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