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itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:23 AM Apr 2013

AP sources: Boston bomb suspects from Russia region near Chechnya, lived in US at least 1 year

Last edited Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:00 AM - Edit history (2)


http://www.chron.com/news/article/AP-sources-Boston-bomb-suspects-from-Russia-4447187.php


Earlier from MSNBC and Fox News
Most likely here on student visas or permanent residents.

According to several news agencies.



However, if they are permanent residents, why have the FBI has not released their Green Card photos to the public?
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AP sources: Boston bomb suspects from Russia region near Chechnya, lived in US at least 1 year (Original Post) itsrobert Apr 2013 OP
who other than msnbc has reported that ? JI7 Apr 2013 #1
Fox News itsrobert Apr 2013 #3
Pete Williams/msnbc TDale313 Apr 2013 #4
So it's nopt Tripathi? alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #2
Since you mention that dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #5
I took the nearly universal nod to the "scanner" alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #6
Just the police officers saying that over the scanner Lex Apr 2013 #7
No. No evidence he's one of them... TDale313 Apr 2013 #15
Thanks dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #24
MSNBC has said not students, permanent residents who are Chechen or Turkish. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #8
I wonder in what way they obtain permanent resident status? itsrobert Apr 2013 #13
That may be the trip up...they have been under suspicion for awhile (according to MSNBC). Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #14
If they are Permanent Residents, USCIS has their photos itsrobert Apr 2013 #20
Turkey? kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #9
UPDATE Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #10
Is Turkrish considered MiddleEastern? HipChick Apr 2013 #11
Sometimes. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #16
Yes. Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #17
Generally yes SlipperySlope Apr 2013 #28
fbi pic annabanana Apr 2013 #12
Not MIT. Brown University. Sheesh, so many people posting bogus information. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #19
Thanks. . .n/t annabanana Apr 2013 #23
Earlier reports have been dropped or have dropped Sunil's name, but Sunil was from Brown. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #34
Wrong. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #18
You seem defensive itsrobert Apr 2013 #27
It seems earlier reports I read have been replaced. No, not defensive and not calling you a liar. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #32
ANOTHER UPDATE: Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #21
[edit: new reports] The 22 year old American of Indian descent Sunil Tripathi is on the lam. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #25
I think they've updated that information. Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #29
I think you may be right. I've gone back to look for the reports I read and they've been replaced. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #31
No, it's not him. TDale313 Apr 2013 #30
wasn't World War One started over much less than this ? olddots Apr 2013 #22
Chechens formerly living in Turkey kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #26
+1 nt MOTRDemocrat Apr 2013 #35
Why are we letting people in from Chechnya - were they refugees? reformist2 Apr 2013 #33
Crap, please not another 'blow back' situation kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #36
That's a big leap itsrobert Apr 2013 #37
OK what possible beef would Chechens have with us? kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #38

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
4. Pete Williams/msnbc
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:29 AM
Apr 2013

Was the one I heard reporting this. I'm hoping we get real identification soon.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
5. Since you mention that
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:32 AM
Apr 2013

has anything at all occurred to confirm that either suspect is the missing student ? I ask because of some real Micky Mouse stuff being posted on FB.

Lex

(34,108 posts)
7. Just the police officers saying that over the scanner
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:34 AM
Apr 2013

or otherwise overheard saying that, but that certainly it not confirmation.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
15. No. No evidence he's one of them...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:42 AM
Apr 2013

Pete Williams on MSNBC specifically said he had been told by multiple sources Sunil was not one of the suspects. We still don't have identities, but I feel so bad for this young man's family if on top of everything else their missing loved one has been this publicly and wrongly accused. And yes, based on some of the earlier reports I entertained the possibility that he was one of the bombers.

Behind the Aegis

(53,833 posts)
14. That may be the trip up...they have been under suspicion for awhile (according to MSNBC).
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:41 AM
Apr 2013

You pose some great questions.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
20. If they are Permanent Residents, USCIS has their photos
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:49 AM
Apr 2013

and not this grainy images they have been showing. The images are on USCIS data systems for green cards.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
10. UPDATE
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:38 AM
Apr 2013

As per WHDH (local Boston affiliate), they were Turkish, were legal residents and had been here for about a year.

Turkey?

SlipperySlope

(2,751 posts)
28. Generally yes
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:55 AM
Apr 2013

Politically Turkey is at the intersection between Europe and the Middle East. Turkey is a NATO member and has applied for entry to the EU.

Religiously, Turkey is 97% Muslim. Turkey was long considered a role model by the west for what a secular Muslim state could look like, but it has increasingly had Islam influence politics.

Ethnicity in Turkey is a tricky subject politically and likely to spawn much disagreement (i.e. who exactly is or isn't a Turk).

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,788 posts)
34. Earlier reports have been dropped or have dropped Sunil's name, but Sunil was from Brown.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:01 AM
Apr 2013

So the media is perhaps as confused as I was.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,788 posts)
18. Wrong.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:47 AM
Apr 2013

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

He grew up in Bryn Mawr. Has family living in Providence.

He was missing for a month. FBI was involved early on.

http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2013/03/providence-ri---the-fbi.html

This kind of stuff is easy to find if you just look. You did not. You don't even link to the "several news agencies".

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,788 posts)
32. It seems earlier reports I read have been replaced. No, not defensive and not calling you a liar.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:00 AM
Apr 2013

Just seeking the real information. The initial police reports named two suspects in the MIT and Watertown shootings, but they have since retracted the information.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
21. ANOTHER UPDATE:
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:50 AM
Apr 2013

NOT Turkish! Chechen but lived in Turkey for a number of years. AND they were brothers. (From the same Boston affiliate.) The 19-year-old is the one on the lamb.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,788 posts)
25. [edit: new reports] The 22 year old American of Indian descent Sunil Tripathi is on the lam.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:52 AM
Apr 2013

On edit: new reports seem to have replaced the earlier reports I read.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
29. I think they've updated that information.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:56 AM
Apr 2013

There's been a lot of confusion, understandably. They actually said the names of the two suspects but they are "furin" names and I probably couldn't pronounce them, much less spell them. Apparently the original story comes from AP. (Can't find it yet.)

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
26. Chechens formerly living in Turkey
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:53 AM
Apr 2013

And we all remember what Boston did to Chechnya right? so no big surprise they'd want revenge.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
36. Crap, please not another 'blow back' situation
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:05 AM
Apr 2013

What if it turns out the older brother's "military training" was provided courtesy of some regional ally and CIA proxy?

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
38. OK what possible beef would Chechens have with us?
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:25 AM
Apr 2013

Like maybe we didn't support their secession efforts enough?
When regions like Georgia or Chechnya or the Ukraine rebel against Russia the US is very interested. It is also sometimes covertly involved.

As the other poster asked, How did these brothers even get over here? That's a good question. And I ask, again, why would big brother have an axe against America? Clearly he is -excuse me, was- a terrorist, and he trained his younger brother to be one too. But why did he take up arms against us, the country that gave him refuge? He did not suddenly decide to become a terrorist in less than a year after receiving a gaining entry into the US, the land of milk and honey. No fucking chance. This guy was a terrorist long before, over there in Russia. How does such a cold blooded murdering sonofabitch get a visa? Because we mistakenly thought he was our cold blooded sonofabitch.

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