It's looking like the Boston bombings were a Conspiracy

[cthulu2016]

Last edited Thu Apr 18, 2013, 03:46 PM - Edit history (1)

Fortunately, "conspiracy" does not mean space aliens and freemasons were involved, just that it was a plan involving more than one person.

When I heard the FBI was focusing on two people in the crowd I assumed they had identified two people who might be THE guy (singular) and I was figuring that some of the delay in seeking the public's help on ID-ing the pictures was that one of the two people implicated would be innocent.

But it sounds more like the current theory is that the two bombs were placed by two different men. The photos authorities have focused on are a person at one one bomb site and another person from the other site.

(Granted, not one word of anything leaked the press is gospel at this point. It could all be crap.)

If it shakes out that way then it's a domestic terror conspiracy or a foreign terror conspiracy... but not a "lone wolf." I sippose there can be "lone wolves," however. The two Columbine killers were conspirators, but only with each other. McVeigh and Nichols formed a conspiracy.

Anyway... do other folks read this the way I do? That the bombs were placed by different men?

Authorities have clear video images of two suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings carrying black bags at the explosion sites and are planning to release the images today in an appeal for the public’s help in identifying the men, according to an official briefed on the case.

The official said that the two suspects were seen separately on videotape — one at each of the two bombing sites, which are located about a block apart.

The official, who spoke this morning on the condition of anonymity, said the best video has come from surveillance cameras on the same side of Boylston Street as the explosions. The official said the widely reported Lord and Taylor surveillance camera, which is across the street, and snapshots from individual cellphone camera users, have not provided the clearest images.

It was unclear why authorities did not publicize images of the unidentified suspects Wednesday. This afternoon, the FBI announced it will hold a press conference at 5 p.m. to update the public on the Boston Marathon terrorist attack.

http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/04/18/authorities-have-clear-video-images-two-suspects/eDuBdL4QhkcMVwhlrVBrcJ/story.html

[Lint Head]

1. I "speculate" because I can. I say right wing militia types who love Glenn Beck and

Alex Jones that are afraid the big bad government is confiscating their guns. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But, I doubt it. Soft targets bombed by cowards is the M.O. of right wing anti abortion, death penalty gun lovers. We'll see.

[hifiguy]

11. Much truth there. NT

[hughee99]

14. I completely agree. It's probably one of those RW anti-abortion, death penalty gun lovers

like that guy who loaded up his truck with explosives and tried to blow up Times Square (a soft target) back in 2010.

[Downtown Hound]

15. I have a hard time believing that it's mere coincidence that this took place on tax day

in Boston, the birthplace of American independence and the Boston TEA PARTY. Last I checked Islamic radicals really don't care much about our taxes.

[jberryhill]

17. Or it was the handy availability of a mass event spanning 26 miles

I got me one of them Catholic calendars, just to keep track of what saint's holy day it is on any particular day. Around here, every day's a holiday.

[Downtown Hound]

20. "Or it was the handy availability of a mass event spanning 26 miles?"

I somehow doubt that's all it was.

[HappyMe]

2. I think it was Bat Boy.

Or Godzilla.

[demwing]

3. yeah, thats funny

no, really funny...

[HappyMe]

4. Oh my!

Isn't it a little soon for woo.

[cthulu2016]

13. Okey dokey

[arthritisR_US]

5. Your interpretation of things is the same as mine. n/t

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

6. I believe there have been some apolitical lone nut teams of murderers

some of them related by marriage or blood like Angelo Buono and Kenneth Bianchi, the "Hillside Stranglers" who were cousins. It probably involves a very unique chemistry and I assume it's rare, especially if their conspiracy involves simply the desire to kill rather than to make a political point.

[cthulu2016]

7. Even the IN COLD BLOOD duo

[Chan790]

21. The Petit home-invasion murders. n/t

[mainer]

8. OKC bombing was also a conspiracy

Tim McVeigh got help from Jim Nichols.

[cthulu2016]

12. Yes. That's a good point. I left them out of the

OP because some people insist there was a third person and I didn't want to get into a whole "thing" but since you brought them up I added them to the OP as a familiar example of a RW supremacist-type duo.

[Chan790]

23. Trio.

Everybody knows about:

Terry Nichols
Timothy McVeigh

but there was also Michael Fortier. Fortier entered into a plea-deal for one charge of conspiracy, the only thing Federal Prosecutors could prove sufficient to get an indictment...that he had advance knowledge of the attack including plans and time/date and chose to not inform law enforcement. He received 12 years and in exchange testified against both McVeigh and Nichols. The deal is somewhat controversial as it was a near-certainty that Fortier had played at least some role in planning the attack, but could not be proven.

[Archae]

9. What if cops and/or the FBI never find the guy or guys?

We never did find out who was the anthrax mailer, and it's been 12 years now.

[cthulu2016]

10. If we had a clear picture of the Anthrax mailer it would help a lot

It would have excluded most suspects, for starters.

[RebelOne]

24. In this case, I think the bomber or bombers

will be caught. It took two years to apprehend Eric Rudolph, the Olympics Park bomber.

[jberryhill]

16. But...

That they may have reason to question persons identified in various photographs or videos does not necessarily mean that either or both of them are the bomber.

The weird thing to me is that they are bothering to say they are looking for persons seen in the images.

Clearly the bomber(s) know who he/she/they are. If they thought they got away clean, then they would have less reason to flee or go into hiding somewhere, than if they knew that perhaps there was a clear enough image to identify them. Of course, the bomber(s) would probably make themselves hard to find for at least a substantial time after the event anyway, but there is no reason for law enforcement to be saying "We're getting real close" just in case the perps may have relaxed a bit.

[cthulu2016]

18. I figure secrecy is not an option, so they have to manage the situation

The FBI cannot entirely freeze out the Boston PD. The Boston PD, like any big city PD, is not firewalled from politics.

There will be leaks, so the FBI tries to manage the thing as best they can, confirming some stuff that is already out somewhere. Maybe they figure anything the BPD knows (outside a small group in the force) is as good as leaked anyway.

And Jesus... if Fran Townsend still has "federal sources"... oy! (God only knows what Peter King has been leaking)



As to the nature of the guys being sought -- the Boston.com article uses "suspects" rather than "persons of interest." From an official in public that would be very informative, since these days you stop being "a person of interest" until a jury is seated. <joke> Don't know what it means from a source, or if the author might have erred in word choice.

[Warren DeMontague]

19. Probably more than one person would be needed to sneak those things in.

[flamingdem]

22. Easier to bust two vs one

More chances for people to know them