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Ugh...just got an email from my brother with a link to infowars (Original Post) dorkzilla Apr 2013 OP
The mainstream media has done such a craptastic job... Taverner Apr 2013 #1
This is something Lindsay Apr 2013 #7
Alternet, Salon, The Atlantic, etc cali Apr 2013 #14
Oh I know - but when the media is such a toxic stew of bullshit... Taverner Apr 2013 #15
Tell your brother that he is an idiot Marrah_G Apr 2013 #2
Yeah, except he'd probably say "that's what 'they' want you to believe, SHEEPLE". (eom) dorkzilla Apr 2013 #5
damn...sorry. Holidays must be frustrating!!!! Marrah_G Apr 2013 #6
alex jones stklurker Apr 2013 #3
Fear spreads and festers. gateley Apr 2013 #4
Same shit "media covering stuff up" yadda yadda yadda herpdeederp dorkzilla Apr 2013 #8
That's too bad. But even we, (to a much lesser extent) gateley Apr 2013 #9
Why did you post a link to infowars? Hmmmmm? eom ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2013 #10
My GF's son would only get his news from jones halftwit sight... Javaman Apr 2013 #11
Sigh...I wish it was just a phase dorkzilla Apr 2013 #17
The next time he does call you those names, simply ask him why and Javaman Apr 2013 #23
Tell your brother that you are CIA psy-ops and you can verify its ALL TRUE. Watch his head spin. Erose999 Apr 2013 #12
LOL! Perfect! dorkzilla Apr 2013 #16
Send him this link from Scientific American: MOTRDemocrat Apr 2013 #13
Thanks! I'll try that! dorkzilla Apr 2013 #18
Alex Jones is not crazy. Archae Apr 2013 #19
I used to think that as well until I saw this: dorkzilla Apr 2013 #20
It could be just an act. Archae Apr 2013 #22
I have to say I'd never heard of the Bilderberg meetings unitl I heard him on some radio show gateley Apr 2013 #21
 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
1. The mainstream media has done such a craptastic job...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:32 PM
Apr 2013

Between cheerleading the Iraq War, giving coverage to clearly insane candidates (aka Tea Party) and calling corporate campaigns "grass roots" (aka Tea Party) - it is no wonder people are turning to anywhere else for news.

Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
7. This is something
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:40 PM
Apr 2013

that's bothered me greatly.

Corporate media is mostly corporate propaganda. The government won't tell the people the truth (and much of what they do tell is also corporate propaganda these day, I think). When there are few reliable sources of information, people are going to believe what seems to make the most sense to them.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
14. Alternet, Salon, The Atlantic, etc
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:53 PM
Apr 2013

anyone with a few functional brain cells can swiftly work out that infowars isn't a new site.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
15. Oh I know - but when the media is such a toxic stew of bullshit...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:54 PM
Apr 2013

People go with what they THINK is the truth...

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
2. Tell your brother that he is an idiot
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:32 PM
Apr 2013

The boy is a high school runner and the other guy is his coach..........

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
6. damn...sorry. Holidays must be frustrating!!!!
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:40 PM
Apr 2013

I have a person like that in my life too. I just block anything political from them.

stklurker

(180 posts)
3. alex jones
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:33 PM
Apr 2013

Even my most conservative friends think Alex Jones is a nutjob.. he is in it for the money.. plain and simple

gateley

(62,683 posts)
4. Fear spreads and festers.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:35 PM
Apr 2013

I heard a caller on a radio station say the Boston Marathon bombing was a "false flag" so the Government could further strip our civil liberties and freedoms. I immediately thought "gee, wonder who he's been listening to" of course Alex Jones came to mind.

I don't want to go to the site, but is this what Jones is saying?

The people who follow the Alex Joneses of the world are blinded by their fear and hatred -- they CAN'T see he's crazy.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
8. Same shit "media covering stuff up" yadda yadda yadda herpdeederp
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:41 PM
Apr 2013

Its like a cult. My brother used to be sane...by his own admission, our cousins and his friends won't take his calls anymore. You'd think that would tell him something, but he just says "they don't want to face the truth".

I should say as much.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
9. That's too bad. But even we, (to a much lesser extent)
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:51 PM
Apr 2013

say the same things about some of the stuff going on ("they don't want to know the truth&quot . But our truths aren't CRAZY! Hope your brother comes around.

Javaman

(62,500 posts)
11. My GF's son would only get his news from jones halftwit sight...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:33 PM
Apr 2013

but then again that was when he was between the ages of 16 and 24.

He would spout on and on about it for hours and finally I couldn't take it anymore.

I finally said in as gentle but instructional tone as I could, "okay, so you know all this 'stuff' what are you going to do with it other than keep paying jones's salary by buying his stuff?"

He's a smart guy.

After that day, he's 27 now, I never heard him say another word about it.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
17. Sigh...I wish it was just a phase
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 03:31 PM
Apr 2013

I've tried the whole appealing to his intellect but he calls me an "elite", a "knowitall" and a "snob".

Javaman

(62,500 posts)
23. The next time he does call you those names, simply ask him why and
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 09:26 PM
Apr 2013

patiently let him explain.

it's happened more than enough times from libertarians and usually they wind up talking themselves out of their own logic.

Most of all don't get smug, I know it's easy to LOL but try and remain as calm as possible and just observe and they weave their bizarre contradictory logic.

And when he's all done, being asking him about the things he contradicted himself on.

That's how you break their circular logic of crazy thinking.

But if he gets all bent out of shape and gets frustrated because he is realizing 1) just how crazy it sounds and 2) even he can't explain it. You patiently tell him, if he's unable to explain to anyone the how's and why's of information, then how is he able to keep it clear to himself.

It's using their own information against them.

 

MOTRDemocrat

(87 posts)
13. Send him this link from Scientific American:
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:46 PM
Apr 2013

"The authors suggest there is a higher-order process at work that they call global coherence that overrules local contradictions: “Someone who believes in a significant number of conspiracy theories would naturally begin to see authorities as fundamentally deceptive, and new conspiracy theories would seem more plausible in light of that belief.” Moreover, “conspiracy advocates' distrust of official narratives may be so strong that many alternative theories are simultaneously endorsed in spite of any contradictions between them.” Thus, they assert, “the more that participants believe that a person at the centre of a death-related conspiracy theory, such as Princess Diana or Osama [bin] Laden, is still alive, the more they also tend to believe that the same person was killed, so long as the alleged manner of death involves deception by officialdom."

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=why-people-believe-conspiracy-theoies

Archae

(46,300 posts)
22. It could be just an act.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 04:40 PM
Apr 2013

To pander to the far-right nutcases out there, his ratings go up and he makes more money.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
21. I have to say I'd never heard of the Bilderberg meetings unitl I heard him on some radio show
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 04:21 PM
Apr 2013

years ago. I thought he was whack and the entire idea was hysterical, but then I learned it does take place annually.

I'm not of the mind that they're plotting to run the world (they practically already do), and don't really care about it.

But this is the type of thing that he will jump on and then whip into a frenzy. A speck of truth, then look out!

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