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Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:24 PM Apr 2013

Let's talk about fecal transplantation

Why? Just because. A change of scenery, if you will. And because I just learned about this from reading Mary Roach's newest book, Gulp: Adventures on the Alimentary Canal (highly recommend).

So apprently there's this real thing called a fecal transplant. Seriously. And apparently it's a really beneficial treatment for people who need it. The idea is that some GI problems are a result of a bad combination of lower intestinal bacteria (too many C. difficile, to be precise) and it is a way to introduce a more desirable population to the neighborhood. Gentrification of the lower GI? They take the, uh, "donation" from a super-healthy person and deposit it in the appropriate place.

Why not just swallow it? Gut juices will destroy many of them.

Why not culture these bad boys (oops, I mean good guys) in the lab? They're anaerobic (live in absence of oxygen) and difficult (not impossible, of course) to grow in large quantities in culture. Easier to just harvest them from the... discarded goods of those who are done with them.

Isn't that weird and wonderful?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_bacteriotherapy

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Let's talk about fecal transplantation (Original Post) Duer 157099 Apr 2013 OP
My sister has MS; she was talking about this Recursion Apr 2013 #1
Hard to see the harm Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #2
It's not an uncommon treatment. n/t cynatnite Apr 2013 #3
The procedure was illustrated on the PBS show Guts last night. Betsy Ross Apr 2013 #4
Really? I'll have to look that up Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #5
So you really liked the book? siligut Apr 2013 #6
Yes. I saw her on either TDS or Colbert. Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #8
She is a fun, intelligent person siligut Apr 2013 #9
OK I was lying Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #10
One concern is that it's being credited for benefits that haven't yet been demonstrated Orrex Apr 2013 #7
Interesting... TeeYiYi Apr 2013 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #12

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
1. My sister has MS; she was talking about this
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:26 PM
Apr 2013

Apparently a lot of people with different autoimmune issues swear by it.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
2. Hard to see the harm
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:29 PM
Apr 2013

That's what I like about it. Although time will tell.

If I had a problem where this was a possible treatment, I'd be all over it.

Betsy Ross

(3,147 posts)
4. The procedure was illustrated on the PBS show Guts last night.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:32 PM
Apr 2013

They showed a HOLE lot more. (That's a joke because it is about the alimentary (SP?) canal.)

siligut

(12,272 posts)
6. So you really liked the book?
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:33 PM
Apr 2013

I saw Mary Roach when she was on with Colbert, had been considering reading her book, so thanks. Ranchers have been doing fecal transplants for longer than I know on their herds. Intestinal flora is a vital component of overall health. One can keep ones own in condition with cultured foods like yogurt and fermented foods like sauerkraut and kimchi.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
8. Yes. I saw her on either TDS or Colbert.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:36 PM
Apr 2013

I've read some of her previous work, so I was familiar with her work.

I was ambivalent about getting this one because it only seemed marginally interesting. But I was beyond fascinated by this one, just riveting. But then, I'm a little bit like her, fascinated by really odd stuff.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
9. She is a fun, intelligent person
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:43 PM
Apr 2013

Her personality reminds me of friends who were interested in electronics and chemistry in high school. Our alimentary canal is vital to our survival and affects all of our other systems, very important odd stuff.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
7. One concern is that it's being credited for benefits that haven't yet been demonstrated
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:36 PM
Apr 2013

And the corollary concern is that people might seek it out in place of other treatments, because "what's the harm?"

It seems clear that some people have benefited from it, but I'd prefer to wait until we have more clinical studies before we credit it with too much curative power.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
11. Interesting...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:15 PM
Apr 2013

...I hadn't heard of Mary Roach, so I googled her. Found a TED talk from a few years back on youtube. Very entertaining.



TYY

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