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garybeck

(9,932 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:08 PM Apr 2013

I don't get it, re: bombing suspect photo



this photo is being shown all over the place. investigators have said they are looking for two possible suspects. while they haven't confirmed to my knowledge that this photo is one of the people they're looking for, the news media is clearly drawing that conclusion.

What I don't understand is... yes this guy looks a little suspicious. While everyone else is freaking out from the blast, he stands out in a weird way.

BUT, this photo is taken AFTER the blast. it makes very little sense that the person responsible would be standing at the scene at this point. Comments have been made that in the photo you can tell this person was affected by the blast - his clothes are torn and burnt.

I fail to see the logic why this person is such a focus of the investigation. Sure I'd want to talk to him and get some info. But from this photo alone I would not consider him a suspect because the photo was taken after the blast and the perpetrator is most likely not that standing right where the blast took place at this time.

it's more likely to find him in photos taken before the blast, not after. I would expect to find him on camera a block or two away from the blast at this point, not right at the center of the scene. If that's him, the implication is, that he planted the bomb, moved away waited for it to detonate but was close enough to have his clothes burned right off his skin, and then came back to the center of it all for some reason. Just doesn't make sense to me. Am I missing something
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I don't get it, re: bombing suspect photo (Original Post) garybeck Apr 2013 OP
I'm with you Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #1
the only thing I can think of... garybeck Apr 2013 #5
Even that doesn't make sense Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #16
i don't even see him Enrique Apr 2013 #2
I'm with you. Iggo Apr 2013 #4
the guy in the middle with the black shirt. n/t garybeck Apr 2013 #6
the guy with the hockey jersey and the shades? Enrique Apr 2013 #9
dude, are you looking at the same picture? garybeck Apr 2013 #13
ok, i see now Enrique Apr 2013 #34
I know I'm dense, but I don't see anyone suspicious in this chaos. byeya Apr 2013 #31
What media is saying this is one of the suspected bombers? All I've sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #3
both CNN and ABC news have suggested this guy is a suspect garybeck Apr 2013 #11
He had a CIRCLE around him? kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #12
And directly below that.... sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #18
I believe Mr. Thorndike gvstn Apr 2013 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #28
I think he just put up a gallery of his photos gvstn Apr 2013 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #36
I think it was outlets like CNN that turned that story into "this guy in black is a suspect." garybeck Apr 2013 #33
That guy in black in the smoke has been ID'd and cleared. onehandle Apr 2013 #7
I am thinking that this bomb (the first) might not have contained projectiles. John1956PA Apr 2013 #20
He doesn't seem out of the ordinary to me. It's a chaotic scene, and everyone will act differently arcane1 Apr 2013 #8
He clearly gets up on his KNEES facing up the street which is EAST, towards MECCA kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #15
bwahaha! nice! renate Apr 2013 #32
LMAO arcane1 Apr 2013 #37
The conspiracy that I've read is... Wait Wut Apr 2013 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #14
I thought those 2 were cleaed as well. (no text) Quantess Apr 2013 #17
They are cleared gvstn Apr 2013 #23
No,they aren't,this has been debunked. nt sufrommich Apr 2013 #21
No there are not maddezmom Apr 2013 #22
Nope. HappyMe Apr 2013 #24
They aren't the ones, unless of course you get your news from the NY Post n/t Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2013 #25
They were cleared. The public has NOT seen the pictures of the bomber yet. Marrah_G Apr 2013 #29
Sorry, sherlock n/t arcane1 Apr 2013 #30
what stands out to me is that his clothes are so shredding, yet is able to run away bushisanidiot Apr 2013 #26
that's not the picture of the suspect Marrah_G Apr 2013 #27

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
1. I'm with you
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:10 PM
Apr 2013

it makes no sense. OMG a guy running away after a bomb? Seems he's got the sort of genes that survive.

And unless one is a suicide bomber, you don't really want to be next to the bomb when it goes off.

Just silly imho. A distraction.

garybeck

(9,932 posts)
5. the only thing I can think of...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:13 PM
Apr 2013

is if he is responsible, perhaps he ran back after the bomb blew up to see if there was any evidence leftover he could remove from the scene, like a torn up backpack, or the lid from the pressure cooker. But unless they have another photo of the same guy doing something suspicious before the blast, I see no reason to conclude that's what's happening in this photo.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
16. Even that doesn't make sense
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:27 PM
Apr 2013

Being close enough to a blast like that such that your clothes is torn off will almost certainly render you really dazed and confused. Running away is the most appropriate reaction imho.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
9. the guy with the hockey jersey and the shades?
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:18 PM
Apr 2013

or the guy to his left standing straight up holding his hands to his ears?

Either way, neither of them looks suspicious to me.

garybeck

(9,932 posts)
13. dude, are you looking at the same picture?
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:25 PM
Apr 2013

right in the middle of the smoke cloud, there's a guy with a black shirt and black shorts.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
34. ok, i see now
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:50 PM
Apr 2013

i thought that was a woman wearing a black skirt. And digging for something with a pickaxe.

sinkingfeeling

(51,276 posts)
3. What media is saying this is one of the suspected bombers? All I've
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:12 PM
Apr 2013

seen them do is present it as one of 25 some guy took from his office window.

garybeck

(9,932 posts)
11. both CNN and ABC news have suggested this guy is a suspect
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:22 PM
Apr 2013

yesterday they were showing each photo in sequence, discussing what this guy was wearing, how suspicious he looked... many times I've seen the photo with a circle around him....

here's one example
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/04/boston-marathon-eyewitness-gives-fbi-photo-of-man-fleeing-scene/

"“I was struck by this individual,” Thornike told ABC News. “Everyone else in the photo is on the ground, bent over, holding their ears, appearing to be in shock, immobile, but this one individual is exactly the opposite.”

sinkingfeeling

(51,276 posts)
18. And directly below that....
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:30 PM
Apr 2013

"Authorities have not said that man — or any other individual — is a suspect in the case, but they have contacted Thornike about the photos and have repeatedly urged any witnesses to come forward with videos and photos that could be a potential piece of evidence."

Also says it's one of 2000 the FBI are looking at.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
19. I believe Mr. Thorndike
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:30 PM
Apr 2013

Whom was the photographer looked at the photos he had taken and sent them to the FBI because he found the guy to be acting differently than others so soon after the blast. He was just doing what authorities asked--forward any photos that spectators had taken. He didn't say the guy did anything wrong only that he thought his photos showed something of possible interest.

I think it was outlets like CNN that turned that story into "this guy in black is a suspect." Again terrible reporting. Irresponsible.

Response to gvstn (Reply #19)

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
35. I think he just put up a gallery of his photos
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:57 PM
Apr 2013

Which were really good and in fast sequence after the explosion. The media started taking shortcuts with his words and made it out that he was accusing someone. He never said that.

Password: Thorndike http://benthorndike.smugmug.com/Other/Marathon-Explosion-Photos/28935557_ZjvV65#!i=2459431165&k=wCPkhHj

Response to gvstn (Reply #35)

garybeck

(9,932 posts)
33. I think it was outlets like CNN that turned that story into "this guy in black is a suspect."
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:48 PM
Apr 2013

i agree. that's my point. thanks.

John1956PA

(2,654 posts)
20. I am thinking that this bomb (the first) might not have contained projectiles.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:31 PM
Apr 2013

The fellow in the black (whom I accept was a victim and not a perpetrator) had his shirt sleeve and pant leg torn off by the blast. If there had been ball bearings, nails, or other shrapnel-producing contents placed inside of the bomb, then I would have thought that he would have sustained lacerations to his arm and leg. I am not making my observation in order to argue any particular point. Bombs can produce unexpected results. Also, I would not have expected that a bomb would be powerful enough to tear off a victim's shirt sleeve and pant leg without maiming him. But that is apparently what happened.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
8. He doesn't seem out of the ordinary to me. It's a chaotic scene, and everyone will act differently
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:18 PM
Apr 2013

People are just desperate at this point. Every person with a backpack is now a suspect, in the public's mind.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
15. He clearly gets up on his KNEES facing up the street which is EAST, towards MECCA
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:27 PM
Apr 2013

Whither he then runs, while everyone else runs in the opposite direction, sort of. Do you need Chuck Todd to draw you a map?

renate

(13,776 posts)
32. bwahaha! nice!
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:47 PM
Apr 2013

What you said up there about the circle around him being suspicious made me and now "do you need Chuck Todd to draw you a map"...

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
10. The conspiracy that I've read is...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:21 PM
Apr 2013

...he's the only one running. Apparently, the people looking at this picture are only looking at the one (possibly) brown skinned guy in the picture (I honestly can't tell what color his skin is. I've been told that he's a Saudi from some seers on the internet). The couple at the bottom of the photo are running. Maybe they're the bombers. The lady in the pink vest appears to be running. Could be her.

Let's say that this young man is of ME descent. Maybe he's from Iraq or Afghanistan. He's grown up with bombings. His mother told him as a little boy, "If you hear an explosion, RUN!". Her fear is not only for his physical safety. She knows he'll always be the guilty one in an American's eyes. Run.

Everyone on the internet is a super sleuth without a clue. I'll wait until they release the video. When I say 'they', I don't mean the faux journalists that are looking for fame.

Response to Wait Wut (Reply #10)

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
23. They are cleared
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:33 PM
Apr 2013

High school track runner and his coach. HAve already talked to the police and been cleared.

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
26. what stands out to me is that his clothes are so shredding, yet is able to run away
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:33 PM
Apr 2013

while so many others there are on the ground wounded, but i don't see shredded clothes
anywhere else. that being said, i have a weak stomache and have purposefully NOT
looked at pics of victims. Reading and hearing about it is bad enough. I cannot look
at them.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
27. that's not the picture of the suspect
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:35 PM
Apr 2013

That was people jumping to conclusions

The police haven't yet shown the pictures of the man they are looking for.

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