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Gallup, Jan. 2013: Americans Back Obama's Proposals to Address Gun Violence (Original Post) ProSense Apr 2013 OP
K & R. n/t FSogol Apr 2013 #1
Americans also support the assault weapons ban ProSense Apr 2013 #2
Thanks. Looks like Sen Warner needs a call from me today. n/t FSogol Apr 2013 #6
Are they still in business after the 2012 election fiasco? gordianot Apr 2013 #3
Well, ProSense Apr 2013 #4
The problem is that there are more single issue gun nut voters than there are geek tragedy Apr 2013 #5
You're basically ProSense Apr 2013 #8
Virtually no one loses votes for opposing regulation of guns. No one. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #9
Maybe ProSense Apr 2013 #10
Mark Begich=Mitch McConnell on guns. He's rubbing it in Gabby Giffords' face. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #11
"He's a complete effing asshole. He's gloating." ProSense Apr 2013 #12
"Address Gun Violence" > "Gun regulation" Patiod Apr 2013 #7

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
2. Americans also support the assault weapons ban
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 10:07 AM
Apr 2013

Senators from at least nine states split on the vote

Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Rubio (R-FL), Nay

Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Nay

Reid (D-NV), Yea
Heller (R-NV), Nay

Shaheen (D-NH), Yea
Ayotte (R-NH), Nay

Brown (D-OH), Yea
Portman (R-OH), Nay

Casey (D-PA), Yea
Toomey (R-PA), Nay

Kaine (D-VA), Yea
Warner (D-VA), Nay

Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Manchin (D-WV), Nay

Baldwin (D-WI), Yea
Johnson (R-WI), Nay

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00101#state

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
4. Well,
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 10:18 AM
Apr 2013

"Are they still in business after the 2012 election fiasco? Gallup has as much credibility as CNN."

...another Gallup poll keeps popping up. Still, here is Pew.



http://www.people-press.org/2013/01/14/in-gun-control-debate-several-options-draw-majority-support/

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. The problem is that there are more single issue gun nut voters than there are
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 10:20 AM
Apr 2013

single issue gun safety voters.

So they have disproportionate influence on the political process.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
8. You're basically
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:10 PM
Apr 2013

"The problem is that there are more single issue gun nut voters than there are single issue gun safety voters."

...disputing the facts of the polls. The fact is the proposals are supported by the overwhelming majority of Americans.

"So they have disproportionate influence on the political process."

No, it's the gun lobby that has "disproportionate influence" on a few Senators.

Background checks received a majority of the votes: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2699325

There were even splits among Senators from the same state on regulating assault weapons: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2699653

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. Virtually no one loses votes for opposing regulation of guns. No one.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:13 PM
Apr 2013

Democrats who lick the NRA's boots routinely get a pass from other Democrats.

Republican voters don't really give a shit about gun safety, they're more concerned about cutting taxes and screwing poor people. So, if they disagree on a gun issue with their representative, they'll dismiss it as a quibble.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. Maybe
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:23 PM
Apr 2013

"Virtually no one loses votes for opposing regulation of guns. No one."

Mark Warner - I will no longer support you
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/18/1202860/-Mark-Warner-I-will-no-longer-support-you

...times have changed.

"Republican voters don't really give a shit about gun safety, they're more concerned about cutting taxes and screwing poor people. So, if they disagree on a gun issue with their representative, they'll dismiss it as a quibble. "

Democratic voters do, and four Republicans voted to support background checks.

The Democrats who voted no are clearly concerned.

Begich Explains Background Check ‘No’ Vote: We Shouldn’t Legislate With Our Emotions
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/begich-explains-background-check-no-vote-we-shouldnt






 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. Mark Begich=Mitch McConnell on guns. He's rubbing it in Gabby Giffords' face.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:24 PM
Apr 2013

He's a complete effing asshole. He's gloating.

Because he knows it'll play well with the snowbillies in Alaska.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
12. "He's a complete effing asshole. He's gloating."
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:26 PM
Apr 2013

Then he doesn't belong in the Senate, which is clearly packed with too many "effing assholes."

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
7. "Address Gun Violence" > "Gun regulation"
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 11:33 AM
Apr 2013

Good studies have shown that people are far more amenable to initiatives labeled as "addressing gun violence" and far less amenable to the same thing when it's labeled "gun regulation".

We need to remember that the real goal is addressing gun violence, not regulating guns.

As we have seen over and over and over, it's important to use the right language.

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