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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:02 PM Apr 2013

Texas fertilizer plant explosion: "every house within about four blocks is blown apart,”

Last edited Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:26 AM - Edit history (2)

Multiple casualties reported in Texas fertilizer plant explosion (PHOTOS, VIDEO)

http://rt.com/usa/texas-fertilizer-plant-explosion-036/

another photo here:
http://ow.ly/i/1UQJ2

Please feel free to add any info/pics you have found.

UPDATE:
Mayor of West, Tex. gave a briefing, I heard it on Dallas News, online
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20130417-live-video-explosion-injuries-reported-at-fertilizer-plant-near-waco-in-west-texas.ece

The plant had a fire BEFORE the explosion, there were firemen at the fire, then the Explosion happened, was felt for 50 miles around.
Nursing home with 133 patients and a Jr.High school were damaged and on fire from explosion. Many many people missing.

Mayor of West Texas ( pop. 2800) is also vol. firefighter.

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Texas fertilizer plant explosion: "every house within about four blocks is blown apart,” (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 OP
"there are firefighters down" dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #1
UPDATE: 1 LEO, 5 firefighters dead; hospitals told to prep for up to 200 patients pinboy3niner Apr 2013 #37
Worse yet:70 people have been confrimed dead, including five firefighters and one police officer. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #43
The TV just said TWO confirmed dead. Tx4obama Apr 2013 #49
Yeah...I know... dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #55
Erin Burnett on CNN is the one that said 'two confirmed dead'. Tx4obama Apr 2013 #57
I don't think they are live. The Erin Burnett show was from earlier. Piers Morgan repeat on now sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #65
EMS Director Says 60 To 70 Dead In West Explosion Lone_Star_Dem Apr 2013 #77
An EMS 'doctor' was on live with Piers a short time ago and he said he's heard of five deaths. Tx4obama Apr 2013 #80
Not that 5 would be a good number, but it's so much better than 60-70 Lone_Star_Dem Apr 2013 #85
Oh NO!!!!!!!!!!!! Marrah_G Apr 2013 #52
there are houses built around a fertilizer plant? Or a fertilizer plant was built near houses? KittyWampus Apr 2013 #2
Poor zoning laws. One sees that type of stuff in areas of the country where republicans have bluestate10 Apr 2013 #7
Zoning laws are intrusive on personal liberty. bluedigger Apr 2013 #72
Dunno which came first, but it was a HUGE blast. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #10
It's Texas. Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #12
Housing for people at the bottom of the ladder is often SoCalDem Apr 2013 #64
I saw in another OP a nearby nursing home was destroyed. lpbk2713 Apr 2013 #75
Well, not "next to"....a couple of blocks from. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #83
Here is Google shot of town, the plant IS right next to the school... dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #88
Look at the density of the neighborhood. lpbk2713 Apr 2013 #91
Texas is one of those places with practically NO zoning kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #90
This message was self-deleted by its author tammywammy Apr 2013 #92
Houston is like that but you generalize way too much ag_dude Apr 2013 #101
It's not a dig at Texas per se. It's a dig at anyplace that fails to adequately regulate kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #138
Then don't lie in your thread title ag_dude Apr 2013 #140
Yes, in most towns in the rural Midwest farming belt! Coyotl Apr 2013 #120
Reports that a nearby nursing home has collapsed in #Waco TX. People may be trapped inside. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #3
Looks bad. nt bluestate10 Apr 2013 #4
omg Marrah_G Apr 2013 #5
Accidental Or Intentional? The Fact That It's In Waco Makes Me Suspicious ChoppinBroccoli Apr 2013 #6
West is NOT in Waco. Texasgal Apr 2013 #11
I admit, my mind went there, but nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #13
Why would your mind go there? Texasgal Apr 2013 #16
expertise Kali Apr 2013 #22
Small fire... wonder how that started. glinda Apr 2013 #116
Hey Choppin..too early to tell.... dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #14
18 miles or so to Branch Davidian home Stallion Apr 2013 #30
They had a fire that had flared back up. Lone_Star_Dem Apr 2013 #60
It's in Waco? tblue Apr 2013 #102
No, it's in West, Texas. tammywammy Apr 2013 #104
Apparently there was fire at the plant, firemen responded.. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #107
OH CRAP! Texasgal Apr 2013 #8
OMG! dgibby Apr 2013 #9
Live coverage and video of explosion dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #15
Thanks for the links. dgibby Apr 2013 #31
Local news says more than one explosion. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #38
Jesus. That is unreal. /nt Marr Apr 2013 #63
Everyone north of there, including DFW area needs to make sure their windows are closed tammywammy Apr 2013 #17
Good point, Tammy... dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #20
KEYE (CBS) just now: area hospitals told to expect 200+ casualties Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #18
They abandoned the field, due to danger nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #19
Rain expected early morn, hope it helps. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #35
It's the material nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #48
What a mess, no easy way out if this. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #121
They got several teams nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #137
pic here of the explosion in fireball stage dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #21
Must have snapped that picture Warpy Apr 2013 #27
Basically same stuff went off in '46; debris rained down miles away. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #40
This video is so upsetting, I hope they are alright. It seems they were quite far away sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #67
I figure they are ok, since he managed to post it on You Tube. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #71
OMG. I hope they're alright ....... how horrible. polly7 Apr 2013 #76
Omg. This is horrible. Glimmer of Hope Apr 2013 #127
big government will help like it should. riverbendviewgal Apr 2013 #23
It's also a small vol FD responding nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #26
Take a look at this coverage, you will be surprised. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #39
inspiring riverbendviewgal Apr 2013 #42
I am not talking now, I am talking initial response nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #46
Vol FDs often take up protection of areas "uncovered" by units responding to disaster. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #45
The town has about 2800 people. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #58
They are evacuating the town. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #24
For reference...ammonia displaces oxygen nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #25
Oh ffs... SidDithers Apr 2013 #59
Shh, don't nudge the expert. *snort* n/t X_Digger Apr 2013 #73
OFFS, grow the hell up. You're just jealous that she kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #93
Jealous? No. Tickled at internet "experts", regardless of gender. n/t X_Digger Apr 2013 #96
Ok from scanner traffic the hot zone nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #28
damage pics: The Straight Story Apr 2013 #29
Live helicopter footage..MASSIVE number of first aid vehicles on the ground dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #32
I hope everyone is okay Aerows Apr 2013 #33
OMG, that's awful. City Lights Apr 2013 #34
Reports are saying 60-70 casualties so far. JaneyVee Apr 2013 #36
OMG... rainbow4321 Apr 2013 #47
70+ fatalities, hundreds of casulties. N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #110
Oh wtf? n/t Skip Intro Apr 2013 #41
How many times this week can I say "Oh my God..." nolabear Apr 2013 #44
A definite disturbance in the force. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #50
We are on red flag for the next two days (high fire danger) nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #51
Horrific! Catherine Vincent Apr 2013 #53
latest reports from nbc dallas rdking647 Apr 2013 #54
Thank you! dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #56
Thank you. CNN is also covering live anneboleyn Apr 2013 #61
Scott and White Hospital in Temple Horse with no Name Apr 2013 #62
They just said "Air 1" from Tyler was there Horse with no Name Apr 2013 #68
Damn. susanr516 Apr 2013 #66
Best damn kolaches in the state tammywammy Apr 2013 #74
I know... MrsBrady Apr 2013 #79
That's how many of us know the place. redqueen Apr 2013 #139
I am a Czech Texan. texanwitch Apr 2013 #125
Over scanner hazmat is on scene nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #69
Watch and listen to this entire video (warning: very sad) Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #70
Couldn't Do It ChangeUp106 Apr 2013 #78
Wow, how horrific and frightening n/t MrBig Apr 2013 #81
OMG. That poor baby. Lone_Star_Dem Apr 2013 #82
The parent didn't understand. And yeah, that's a heartbreaking video. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #84
Hopefully, it didn't end in tragedy. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #115
Heart breaking hearing that child. n/t Blue Diadem Apr 2013 #87
OMG susanr516 Apr 2013 #89
That really got to me. IDIOT parent to take the kid to watch a disaster. Hekate Apr 2013 #106
yeah :( Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #112
NBC 5 is reporting 75-100 homes and businesses were destroyed and 200 people reported injured dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #86
Local CBS affiliate currently (midnight CST) reporting "dozens" dead Rowdyboy Apr 2013 #94
Press Conference on now tammywammy Apr 2013 #97
Watching it with you...This is so heartbreaking Rowdyboy Apr 2013 #99
It's awful. tammywammy Apr 2013 #100
April 19th????? dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #134
David Koresh and the Branch Davidians at Waco and the Oklshoma City federal building both happened Rowdyboy Apr 2013 #135
Unbelievable. That video of the explosion (with the audio of the little girl) is just so sad. anneboleyn Apr 2013 #95
Sheriff is saying the apartment complex is a "skeleton" anneboleyn Apr 2013 #98
They showed that building on the local Dallas News.. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #103
And we're looking at the at night tammywammy Apr 2013 #105
My wife heard and felt the ground tremble in Waxahachie, TX. N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #108
How far away is that? dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #109
About 50 miles. N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #113
this feed is still live as of me posting this link MrsBrady Apr 2013 #111
local NBC out of DFW says press conference at 6am central. MrsBrady Apr 2013 #114
Disaster-a-day... ReRe Apr 2013 #117
Grandma says the windows of her house are all shattered. Lobo27 Apr 2013 #118
Where does she live? dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #119
I estimate no more then 1 mile away, maybe a lot less. Lobo27 Apr 2013 #123
Oh Lobo....I hope she and her familiy are ok.... dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #132
omg I'm so glad your grandparents are OK. cali Apr 2013 #128
Terrible KingFlorez Apr 2013 #122
Why are there houses within four blocks of a fertilizer factory? Recursion Apr 2013 #124
I wonder if the houses were there first. texanwitch Apr 2013 #126
Topographic maps on historicaerials.com tell the story. slackmaster Apr 2013 #136
The town is a narrow rural town. ag_dude Apr 2013 #129
True - drive through any small KS or NE town, and what's in the middle of downtown? hatrack Apr 2013 #130
A good portion of those grain elevators also have fertilizer tanks ag_dude Apr 2013 #131
Excellent info....helps to picture the area. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #133

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
37. UPDATE: 1 LEO, 5 firefighters dead; hospitals told to prep for up to 200 patients
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:39 PM
Apr 2013
UPDATE: The evacuees are being moved from the football field to a location six blocks away.

One policeman and five firefighters have been reported dead.

Hospitals have been told to prepare for up to 200 patients.

The entire city of West is being evacuated due to fear of a second explosion.

http://www.kwkt.com/news/caught-camera-fertilizer-plant-explosion-near-waco


dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
43. Worse yet:70 people have been confrimed dead, including five firefighters and one police officer.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:46 PM
Apr 2013

This is from RT Twitter feed and RT news page, they are keeping an updated blog.

A nursery home was destroyed by the blast and numerous buildings were damaged.

3:40 GMT: 70 people have been confrimed dead, including five firefighters and one police officer. The FAA has placed a temporary flight restriction over the surrounding airspace.

3:35 GMT: Dr. George Smith, Director of West EMS, told KWTX he believes there are between 60 and 70 people dead.

3:34 GMT: Between 75-100 homes and businesses have been completely destroyed with the number injured exceeding 200, as per ABC News.


http://rt.com/usa/explosion-texas-fertilizer-plant-038/


Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
57. Erin Burnett on CNN is the one that said 'two confirmed dead'.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:00 AM
Apr 2013

I hate mentioning 'CNN' right now considering how John King messed up earlier this afternoon

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
65. I don't think they are live. The Erin Burnett show was from earlier. Piers Morgan repeat on now
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:10 AM
Apr 2013

and still saying two dead. But live reporting from other sources, Mother Jones eg, is saying that at least 70 are dead.

An entire apartment building has been destroyed. This I believe is a nursing home, or maybe the apartment building:

:large

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
77. EMS Director Says 60 To 70 Dead In West Explosion
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:21 AM
Apr 2013
WACO (April 17, 2013)--West EMS Director Dr. George Smith says as many as 60 or 70 people died and at least 100 were injured Wednesday night in a fertilizer plant explosion in West.

A rescuer earlier said he knew of five deaths.
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Explosion-Injuries-Reported-At-West-Fertilizer-Plant-203505331.html


I'm seriously hoping this is being misreported.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
80. An EMS 'doctor' was on live with Piers a short time ago and he said he's heard of five deaths.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:25 AM
Apr 2013

I think it's too soon to know all the facts.

Also...

Breaking NewsVerified account ?@BreakingNews

West Mayor: No clear number of dead, injured in Texas explosion - @AP http://bit.ly/11yZYPD

https://twitter.com/BreakingNews/status/324737819266387968



-snip-

An official from a hospital in nearby Waco says at least 66 people were taken for treatment there, including 38 who were hurt seriously.

-snip-

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/texas/article/Texas-fertilizer-plant-blast-injures-dozens-4443262.php#ixzz2QmlK3puA



And the lady on TV right now says the blast killed her dog.


Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
85. Not that 5 would be a good number, but it's so much better than 60-70
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:33 AM
Apr 2013

In small towns like this one is, things can easily get distorted. You're not dealing with people who have usually had to deal with any real large scale tragedy before in their lives. I keep reminding myself of that fact as I hear some of these early reports.

My heart is breaking for this community.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
7. Poor zoning laws. One sees that type of stuff in areas of the country where republicans have
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:08 PM
Apr 2013

been in charge for long periods of time.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. Dunno which came first, but it was a HUGE blast.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:10 PM
Apr 2013

The have used the football field as triage area, but now are having to evacuate that.
The local command center also seems to have either damage or is in way of the fires, they are talking about having to evacuate it..
this is a small town outside of Waco called ..West...Texas.
Or so Tim Pool reprots.
Twitter feeds coming in fast.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
64. Housing for people at the bottom of the ladder is often
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:08 AM
Apr 2013

in undesirable locations..

What a shameful thing it is that people live near such danger

In almost any town of any size, drive through the poorer parts & that's where you find dirty industries or the leftovers from industries that have left their shit behind them..

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
75. I saw in another OP a nearby nursing home was destroyed.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:18 AM
Apr 2013



A nursing home next to a chemical plant?

WTF!!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
83. Well, not "next to"....a couple of blocks from.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:30 AM
Apr 2013

Actually, on edge of the town.
It is a tiny town, 2800 people, at least 200 injured...mayor says the firefighters are "unaccounted for"
and the mayor implied he has a good idea that a lot of folks have died, but is not talking about it yet.

But unfortunately, it was a Monster blast, destroyed houses in a 4 block radius.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
88. Here is Google shot of town, the plant IS right next to the school...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:46 AM
Apr 2013

and the town..

Scroll down and look to your right.

No wonder so many houses were damaged.

https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews/status/324744110567215105/photo/1

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
90. Texas is one of those places with practically NO zoning
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:49 AM
Apr 2013

restrictions of any kind. You can build a beautiful home in an expensive neighborhood and some guy can put a pig farm right next door if you live in DFW, from what I hear.

Beats me why so many Texans think their place is just about heaven, with insanity like that.

Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #90)

ag_dude

(562 posts)
101. Houston is like that but you generalize way too much
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:08 AM
Apr 2013

Most cities do have zoning here and even Houston has restrictions on something like this. North of Houston actually has areas with insanely restrictive zoning. Where on earth did you get the idea that Texas has virtually no zoning?

I'd dare say that a good portion of rural towns with less than 3,000 residents and all volunteer city governments don't have anything resembling zoning regardless of where they are.

But don't let the opportunity to take a dig at Texas pass you by.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
138. It's not a dig at Texas per se. It's a dig at anyplace that fails to adequately regulate
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:56 PM
Apr 2013

dangerous commercial endeavors.

ag_dude

(562 posts)
140. Then don't lie in your thread title
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:05 AM
Apr 2013

To claim that Texas is a place with practically no zoning is either completely ignorant of the reality or a blatant lie.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
120. Yes, in most towns in the rural Midwest farming belt!
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:07 AM
Apr 2013

I have been poisoned by one in my home town, a gas release of ammonia.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. Reports that a nearby nursing home has collapsed in #Waco TX. People may be trapped inside.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:05 PM
Apr 2013

per Tim Pool, Twitter..

( y'all know him from his fantastic camera coverage of NYC Occupy)

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
6. Accidental Or Intentional? The Fact That It's In Waco Makes Me Suspicious
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:08 PM
Apr 2013

Any reports on whether it was accidental (it was a building full of fertilizer, after all) or intentional yet?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
13. I admit, my mind went there, but
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:11 PM
Apr 2013

They had a small fire, which led to a big boom. Industrial accident, it's a fertilizer plant

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
30. 18 miles or so to Branch Davidian home
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:36 PM
Apr 2013

Sounds like an accident-fire got out of control and inadequate resources to put it down -but it looks like its only 18-20 miles North of Branch Davidian home as crow flys

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
60. They had a fire that had flared back up.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:02 AM
Apr 2013

The fire department in a community that small - 2500 to 3000 people - really wasn't equipped to deal with the situation is my guess. Which is a total guess, but that's a tiny little town.

They sprayed water on the ammonium nitrate at some point and triggered the explosion.

This really sounds like a series of horrific accidents.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
102. It's in Waco?
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:09 AM
Apr 2013

I don't watch TV news anymore so I'm not up in the details. Oh my gosh! I hope it wasn't intentional.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
107. Apparently there was fire at the plant, firemen responded..
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:17 AM
Apr 2013

and then it blew.
all of the firemen are now "unaccounted for".
Too early to know if it was set or not.

couple of years ago the plant had some problems, says Twitter.

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
9. OMG!
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:09 PM
Apr 2013

CNN is covering this now. Many serious injuries according to Glen Robinson, CEO of a casualty receiving hospital.

As awful as this is, I sure hope it was an accident, not foul play.

Eye witness says apt complex, nursing home damaged.

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
31. Thanks for the links.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:37 PM
Apr 2013

CNN is reporting that there is a 2nd fertilizer storage tank that is intact, but there is fear that it might blow, so more people are being evacuated.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
17. Everyone north of there, including DFW area needs to make sure their windows are closed
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:19 PM
Apr 2013

The wind in DFW is coming from the south 20-25 mph.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
18. KEYE (CBS) just now: area hospitals told to expect 200+ casualties
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:20 PM
Apr 2013

School badly damaged, nursing home in danger, major evactuations, many helicopters using football field as landing site. Explosion resulted from ammonium fire.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
19. They abandoned the field, due to danger
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:21 PM
Apr 2013

Listening to radio traffic.

I should be listening to my local, we are in red flag, but hey...

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
48. It's the material
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:50 PM
Apr 2013

These fertilizers are oxidizers, water is not what they need, but very specific chemicals that will put them out.

This is a hazardous materials response.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
27. Must have snapped that picture
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:34 PM
Apr 2013

just before the blast wave dumped him on his kiester. I hope he got out OK. I hope everybody did, but this looks bad.

Fertilizer is nasty stuff. It's what McVeigh used to level the Murrah building.

Texas sure knows how to throw an explosion. The Texas City disaster was 66 years and one day ago.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
67. This video is so upsetting, I hope they are alright. It seems they were quite far away
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:14 AM
Apr 2013

but maybe the second explosion was the reason for what happened. See around 29 secs when they seem to have been affected by an explosion, you can hear a child begging her father to leave and they stop video taping. I really hope they are okay:

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
71. I figure they are ok, since he managed to post it on You Tube.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:17 AM
Apr 2013

Blast was felt 50 miles away, they say.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
76. OMG. I hope they're alright ....... how horrible.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:21 AM
Apr 2013

My heart goes out to everyone in West and area tonight.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
23. big government will help like it should.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:30 PM
Apr 2013

Sending prayers for these unfortunate people. I can not imagine this happening where I live. Horrendous.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
42. inspiring
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:46 PM
Apr 2013

Brings tears to my eyes. My boyfriend is a volunteer firefighter. For over 25 years. You have to be special to risk your life for others. May they be safe.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
24. They are evacuating the town.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:30 PM
Apr 2013

"Evacuation of #waco toxic amonia fumes coming from explosion,chemical tanks on fire,
wind is carrying across local areas."

Anon tweet..

yes, I know the town is NOT in Waco, but that is the hash tag they used originally so they are stuck with it.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
59. Oh ffs...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:02 AM
Apr 2013


Ammonia in high enough concentrations will kill you if you inhale it. It's corrosive and will burn your respiratory tract.

Displaced oxygen is the least of your concerns if there's an ammonia leak.

Sid
 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
93. OFFS, grow the hell up. You're just jealous that she
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:00 AM
Apr 2013

has the nerve to be a WOMAN who knows more about this sort of thing than you do.

Sheesh. You and your nasty stalker friends make me

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
32. Live helicopter footage..MASSIVE number of first aid vehicles on the ground
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:37 PM
Apr 2013
Cancel the video...it went off air.


I think this may be a loop video, but it sure covers a lot of activity..

http://rt.com/on-air/massive-explosion-rocks-fertilizer-plant-in-texas/

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
47. OMG...
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:50 PM
Apr 2013


"No one in this town is unaffected at this point", per KXAS..given how small the town is (approx 2,800)


They just showed video of the apt complex..well what is left of it.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
51. We are on red flag for the next two days (high fire danger)
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:53 PM
Apr 2013


Ok that was shitty

Weird mood does not start to describe it
 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
54. latest reports from nbc dallas
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:55 PM
Apr 2013

200+ injuries 40 critically
100+ homes/buisiness heavily damaged /destroyed
apartment complex has collapsed.
no fly zone in effect areound the town of west,texas
possibly as many as 60-70 fatalities
the blast was felt 30+ miles away

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
62. Scott and White Hospital in Temple
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:04 AM
Apr 2013

TEMPLE, Texas – (April 17, 2013) An incident at a fertilizer plant in the town of West has occurred. Scott & White Hospital – Temple has activated its internal incident management system and is preparing to receive and treat victims of this emergency.

The hospital remains open and operating while the Emergency Department staff make preparations to evaluate and treat arriving victims. As the Level 1 trauma center for the region, Scott & White Hospital – Temple is communicating and coordinating with emergency responders out of Waco to provide care for victims. We have limited information about how many victims might be brought to Scott & White.

Shortly after 10 p.m. we received one patient at McLane Children's Hospital Scott & White.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
68. They just said "Air 1" from Tyler was there
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:14 AM
Apr 2013

as well as Careflight.

I expect to see Brooke Army Medical Center sending the big air evac helicopters for burns...because I imagine that Parkland is overwhelmed too.

MrsBrady

(4,187 posts)
79. I know...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:24 AM
Apr 2013

this was my first thought....

when I drive to Austin, I always stop to get a home made sandwitch.

I know everything is way more important than the czechstop, but I'm still sad.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
139. That's how many of us know the place.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:04 PM
Apr 2013

Nothing to feel bad about... that's how many Texans know people from West... We stop by, rest a while, chat and enjoy the food. They're nice people. It's a nice place. I couldn't help but think of them when I heard about this.

It's so sad.

I'm glad I found this thread.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
115. Hopefully, it didn't end in tragedy.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:40 AM
Apr 2013

The guy did get home to post it on Youtube. Hope he had his child treated before he changed his underwear.

Hekate

(90,643 posts)
106. That really got to me. IDIOT parent to take the kid to watch a disaster.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:17 AM
Apr 2013

That poor kid was panicked and deafened ("Dad, I can't hear, dad, let's just get out of here" over and over).

Oh God.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
86. NBC 5 is reporting 75-100 homes and businesses were destroyed and 200 people reported injured
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:36 AM
Apr 2013

This is a small town of 2800 or so people...

This is a catastrophe in a town of this size, losing homes, businesses, the Jr. High School, and the nursing home, which was essentialy destroyed.

god...........

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
97. Press Conference on now
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:05 AM
Apr 2013
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Explosion-Rocks-Fertilizer-Plant-During-Fire-203508011.html


They're not saying how many are dead, just that there are fatalities and the number will go up during the search & rescue. House by house searches.

"will not confirm nor deny" the 60-70 dead number that's been reported.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
99. Watching it with you...This is so heartbreaking
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:07 AM
Apr 2013

What a nightmarish week. And April 19th is still to come.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
135. David Koresh and the Branch Davidians at Waco and the Oklshoma City federal building both happened
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 10:33 AM
Apr 2013

on 4/19 back in the 1990's

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
103. They showed that building on the local Dallas News..
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:12 AM
Apr 2013

It looked like the building in Oklahoma City that McVeigh blew up.
All of the fronts of all the apts ( building was 2 stories high) were completely blown away,
interiors of apts also damaged.
Much like a tornado hit.

MrsBrady

(4,187 posts)
114. local NBC out of DFW says press conference at 6am central.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:33 AM
Apr 2013

local NBC out of DFW says press conference at 6am central.

I think they've found all the injured they are going to find, and now over night and into the morning
will be looking for the dead.

so very sad.


I know we are in the middle of a drought, but I think tonight is the one night I won't pray for rain.
They don't need to be working in rain.

my prayers with my fellow Texans tonight.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
117. Disaster-a-day...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:56 AM
Apr 2013

... I'm getting the feeling that very soon we will see nothing but disaster news on TV... as the USA implodes upon itself. Where's Nero?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
119. Where does she live?
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:03 AM
Apr 2013

That must have been very scary, to have their house damaged and not know why at first.

Lobo27

(753 posts)
123. I estimate no more then 1 mile away, maybe a lot less.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:27 AM
Apr 2013

Keep in it was felt as far as 70 miles away. They are also evacuating, they fear some of the chemicals still in tanks might blow up as well.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
122. Terrible
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:18 AM
Apr 2013

Homes shouldn't even be that close to a fertilizer plant or any sort of plant for that matter, but Texas isn't big on zoning laws.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
136. Topographic maps on historicaerials.com tell the story.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 10:36 AM
Apr 2013

The plant was built in 1958. The 1957 topo map shows no buildings in the vicinity. By 1971, there were buildings near the plant. Bottom line is that the plant was there first, the residential buildings came later.

http://www.historicaerials.com

ag_dude

(562 posts)
129. The town is a narrow rural town.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 07:59 AM
Apr 2013

Perhaps half a mile wide and two miles long at most.

It's built in between a major interstate and a rail line and the fertilizer factory is built next to the rail line. I only remember as far back as the early 80s but it's always been there in that time.

A LOT (I mean a LOT) of small rural towns across the nation have similar situations.

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
130. True - drive through any small KS or NE town, and what's in the middle of downtown?
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 08:16 AM
Apr 2013

A grain elevator. Not the same potential as a fertilizer or petrochemical plant, but plenty of power in dust explosions.

ag_dude

(562 posts)
131. A good portion of those grain elevators also have fertilizer tanks
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 08:29 AM
Apr 2013

Far less than half but selling fertilizer is a common way for grain elevators to expand their business. They're almost always next to rail lines which is a pretty big requirement.

Those that are complaining about the lack of zoning (there was one thread taking the usual pot shots at Texas over it) don't really know how common that setup is.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
133. Excellent info....helps to picture the area.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 09:05 AM
Apr 2013

Every tiny town in this area has same setup, all along the once bustling RR tracks.
Not all have fertilizer plants, of course, but same design, being built around a RR depot.

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