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I would hope the President got the message, the repukes hate him, and will do everything to prevent (Original Post) still_one Apr 2013 OP
Biiiiig +1 Union Scribe Apr 2013 #1
What good comes from negotiating with these depraved shills? Blue Owl Apr 2013 #2
Let's hope this is the last straw and he now starts pushing a progressive agenda with NO COMPROMISES sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #3
Unfortunately, I think he has a big supply of straws. russspeakeasy Apr 2013 #4
+1 This isn't the first time we've hoped "this is the last straw". gateley Apr 2013 #6
I think I'm becoming numb. russspeakeasy Apr 2013 #8
Why would you expect him to press for a progressive agenda? ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #7
He cannot govern by fiat SoCalDem Apr 2013 #9
Even if he could, he is not progressive...the OP is a forlorn hope ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #10
if he is that blueknight Apr 2013 #5
"If he is that fucking stupid" DevonRex Apr 2013 #11
About all the hate directed at Obama.. DevonRex Apr 2013 #12
Obama should oppose gun control legislation. BlueCheese Apr 2013 #13
"The repukes hate him." Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #14
I don't think he's stupid, just naive. n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Apr 2013 #15
He didn't get where he is Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #17
Yes, they always hope the hate gets through DevonRex Apr 2013 #16

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
1. Biiiiig +1
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:06 PM
Apr 2013

They're going to be intransigent anyway; no reason to give them a laugh by caving to get their cooperation.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. Let's hope this is the last straw and he now starts pushing a progressive agenda with NO COMPROMISES
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:14 PM
Apr 2013

and he needs to call those four Democrats to let them know what is expected of them in the future otherwise he will campaign against them in their next primaries.

Let's play some hardball for a change.

He could start by sending out a clear message that he will never sign any bill that includes permission for the Tar Sands Pipeline.

He should announce he is taking back his offer of cuts to SS.

I think whatever lesson he was trying to teach the public about how obstructive they are has been learned now.

He should raise SS benefits which would stimulate the economy and cost the federal government nothing.

He should act as if they do not exist and relegate them to the trashbin of politics.

He and Reid and Nancy Pelosi need to start meeting with any Democrat who has or intends or might vote against any of his progressive legislation and lay it on the line. They will not have the party's support in their next election if they vote Republican, period.

We have the most popular issues. We do not need to compromise with Republicans.

What good is it to have won the Senate when something like this comes and four Dems vote with Republicans? Shame on them.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
7. Why would you expect him to press for a progressive agenda?
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:57 PM
Apr 2013

Obama is not progressive and for that matter neither is Reid or Pelosi

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
9. He cannot govern by fiat
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:19 AM
Apr 2013

He's stuck with them, but he still should do as much as humanly possible without them and tell the country at every opportunity, just why it has to be this way.

blueknight

(2,831 posts)
5. if he is that
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:24 PM
Apr 2013

fucking stupid to learn it this late in the game, then we have no hope. mitch the turtle made that perfectly clear years ago

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
12. About all the hate directed at Obama..
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 12:48 AM
Apr 2013

are you "hoping" he's getting the message? I certainly won't send this thread along to him as an example of any sort of support for his attempt to get gun control legislation done. Seems to me it's a celebration of hate for him and rubbing his nose in it. Nice. Real nice. I don't think those Sandy Hook parents would think your priorities are in the right order, either.

Summer Hathaway

(2,770 posts)
14. "The repukes hate him."
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:28 AM
Apr 2013

I sincerely doubt that this is late-breaking news to Obama.

Always amazes me when people think that Obama got where he is by being too stupid to understand that the Republicans are not his friends.

And yet everyone always hopes he finally "got the message".

Summer Hathaway

(2,770 posts)
17. He didn't get where he is
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:52 AM
Apr 2013

by being either stupid or naive.

As I said, always amazes me that people think he's either. But some people persist in thinking that they know something he doesn't know.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
16. Yes, they always hope the hate gets through
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:52 AM
Apr 2013

loud and clear "for his own good". With their own swipes about his intelligence or maturity or naiveté. He being so woefully inept at everything he has ever done and they being so superior and accomplished. Natch.

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