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kpete

(71,985 posts)
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:40 PM Apr 2013

Obama Says NRA ‘Willfully Lied’ To Beat Background Check Bill

President Barack Obama held an emotional press conference in the Rose Garden this afternoon reacting to the failure of legislation to expand background checks on gun sales in the Senate. After being introduced by the father of a child killed at last year's shootings in Newtown, Connecticut, Obama attributed the defeat of the bipartisan background check compromise to "untruths" about the bill spread by the National Rifle Association.

"The current leader of the NRA used to support these background checks. So while this compromise didn't contain everything I wanted or everything that these families wanted, it did represent progress. It represented moderation and common sense," Obama said. "That's why 90 percent of the American people supported it. But instead of supporting this compromise, the gun lobby and its allies willfully lied about the bill."

Obama said the NRA exagerrated the effect of the bill, which scared gun owners and mobilized them to oppose the legislation.

"They claimed that it would create some sort of big brother gun registry even though the bill did the opposite," said Obama of the NRA. "This legislation in fact outlawed any registry, plain and simple, right there in the text. But that didn't matter. And, unfortunately, this pattern of spreading untruths about this legislation served a purpose. Because those lies upset an intense minority of gun owners and that in turn intimidated a lot of senators."

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/obama-says-nra-willfully-lied-to-beat-background?ref=fpb

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Obama Says NRA ‘Willfully Lied’ To Beat Background Check Bill (Original Post) kpete Apr 2013 OP
oh come on, tell us the REAL reason Skittles Apr 2013 #1
Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #7
That's how the NRA rolls neverforget Apr 2013 #2
. ChangeUp106 Apr 2013 #3
Reading comprehension problems + and selective memory = bad combination Electric Monk Apr 2013 #4
And if the .gov hadn't screwed up... Atlatl Apr 2013 #9
The underlying reason the bill failed is because many (most?) Americans do not trust the government. badtoworse Apr 2013 #5
this vote never went to the people.. frylock Apr 2013 #8
I trust the American people to vote the right way on issues badtoworse Apr 2013 #14
Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #6
bullfuckingshit.. frylock Apr 2013 #10
Enjoy your brief stay here, NAMGLA'er, nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #11
oh F*** Skittles Apr 2013 #12
See post #4, upthread Electric Monk Apr 2013 #13
Ok...it failed... pipoman Apr 2013 #15
And the 46 cowards Loki Apr 2013 #16

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
1. oh come on, tell us the REAL reason
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:42 PM
Apr 2013

our government no longer works for WE THE PEOPLE - they work for whomever yells the most and puts up a buttload of money

Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

ChangeUp106

(549 posts)
3. .
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:45 PM
Apr 2013

The Right has lied every damn time that Obama has tried to do something. Now I'm in the "hate Obama" crowd right now, but I wish he'd realize this on every issue. They lie to you Mr. President and they lie to the American people.

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
4. Reading comprehension problems + and selective memory = bad combination
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:45 PM
Apr 2013


http://judiciary.house.gov/legacy/lapierre.htm

(snip)

We think it 's reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. No loopholes anywhere for anyone. That means closing the Hinckley loophole so the records of those adjudicated mental ill are in the system.

This isn 't new, or a change of position, or a concession. I've been on record on this point consistently, from our national meeting in Denver, to paid national ads and position papers, to news interviews and press appearances. But I 've repeatedly emphasized that this Administration must stop illegally keeping records of lawful gun buyers.

In fact, it 's the media 's well-kept secret that the NRA was an early architect and supporter of the National Instant Check System now in place. Congressman McCollum knows we worked with him on instant checks more than a decade ago.

We think it 's reasonable to provide for instant checks at gun shows just like at gun stores and pawn shops. But what 's unreasonable is how the proposed Lautenberg legislation ignores the 250,000 prohibited people like felons who 've walked away from gun stores --instead of being prosecuted for a federal felony for trying to buy a gun.
 

Atlatl

(57 posts)
9. And if the .gov hadn't screwed up...
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:52 PM
Apr 2013

by failing to prosecute the 1.7 million or whatever number of felons they say have been stopped by background checks, then the NRA wouldn't have a reason to oppose them now.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
5. The underlying reason the bill failed is because many (most?) Americans do not trust the government.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:46 PM
Apr 2013
 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
14. I trust the American people to vote the right way on issues
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:00 PM
Apr 2013

I don't trust elected officials to act in my best interest and that distrust spans a wide variety of issues. I believe many share that view

Response to kpete (Original post)

frylock

(34,825 posts)
10. bullfuckingshit..
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:54 PM
Apr 2013

let's see an example or two of these so-called half-truths being posited by the "gun control side."

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
15. Ok...it failed...
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:02 PM
Apr 2013

at least change the licensing requirements of federal firearms licensees to include that they MUST perform NICS checks upon request in a timely manner for a fixed low fee...say $20-30. Then a public service campaign by the BATFE to make gun owners aware of the legal risks associated with selling a gun later used in a crime without having a background check...FFS do something...enable the system already to allow private transfers..

Loki

(3,825 posts)
16. And the 46 cowards
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:09 PM
Apr 2013

willfully believed the lies to save their sorry assed Senate careers. Every one of them should have to walk around with yellow stripes down their backs.

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