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blm

(113,041 posts)
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:47 PM Apr 2013

Harry Reid statement as yes vote for AWB was BS move to distract from HIS personal failure

as the Senate Majority Leader to do what this country NEEDED from a Dem leader and reform the FILIBUSTER that was being used by the GOP to strip all essential power from the President and the majority of Senate Democrats and the majority of voters in this country.

He thinks he fooled us with his CYA move. Fock him and his whole Charlie Brown act. This country is failing its people because Harry Reid has spent the last 4 years trying to kick a football being held by Mitch McConnell.

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Harry Reid statement as yes vote for AWB was BS move to distract from HIS personal failure (Original Post) blm Apr 2013 OP
I blame Republicans and 4 worthless Democrats. They simply don't mind TwilightGardener Apr 2013 #1
Blame Reid. Period. earthside Apr 2013 #2
This wasn't a bill, it was an amendment. X_Digger Apr 2013 #3
The principle is the same. earthside Apr 2013 #5
Then blame senate dems who could have set the rule aside (separate from filibuster stuff). X_Digger Apr 2013 #9
Yep. Reid has been another major player in the Grand DLC/Third Way Betrayal of the Democratic Zorra Apr 2013 #4
I do not like that man. nt DevonRex Apr 2013 #7
He never intended to do filibuster reform. DevonRex Apr 2013 #6
If that's true he needs to have several politicasista Apr 2013 #8

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
1. I blame Republicans and 4 worthless Democrats. They simply don't mind
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:49 PM
Apr 2013

seeing children shot. They refuse to take even the mildest steps against gun crimes, so I can draw no other conclusion. They'd rather more innocents die than see the NRA lose even one round.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
2. Blame Reid. Period.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:02 PM
Apr 2013

The bill got 54 votes -- a majority.

It didn't 'pass' because Harry Reid did not put the screws to his caucus to genuinely reform the anti-democratic filibuster rule.

That is it plain and simple.

Repuglicans are going to do what Repuglicans do ... and there were four Repuglicans votes for the bill anyway. And Democrats being Democrats it is not that we expect them to walk in lockstep the way Repuglicans do 99 percent of the time.

Fifty-four votes is pretty good out of one hundred.
The problem is Reid and any Democrat who thinks a 60 vote super majority is an 'okay' way to run a "majority rules" institution.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
3. This wasn't a bill, it was an amendment.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:06 PM
Apr 2013

Democrats agreed to the 60-vote rule for this set of amendments. Why? They didn't want things like the national concealed carry reciprocity amendment (57-43) to pass.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
5. The principle is the same.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:22 PM
Apr 2013

It is an undemocratic rule that demands a super majority on anything except where that is specified in the Constitution.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
9. Then blame senate dems who could have set the rule aside (separate from filibuster stuff).
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:22 PM
Apr 2013

It was a bit of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
4. Yep. Reid has been another major player in the Grand DLC/Third Way Betrayal of the Democratic
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:18 PM
Apr 2013

party and the American people.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
6. He never intended to do filibuster reform.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:22 PM
Apr 2013

He never intended to help Obama with his agenda.

In a wide-ranging interview with Politico on the first day of the 111th Congress, the Senate majority leader:

"• Promised that Senate Democrats won’t be “rubber stamps” for the new Democratic president. “I like Barack Obama very much. He won a classic election, never have we had a better one,” Reid said. “But I don’t work for him, I work with him.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17151.html

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